“Rule 5: Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!”
The problem is making a statement like that is a very clear demonstration of Poe’s Law.
Because some people actually honestly believe that the Nazis were socialists, without any other indication nobody can tell if you’re being sarcastic or not.
I reflexively downvoted you before reading the second paragraph and amending my vote.
No worries lol but I would say that Poe’s law is a bit of a double edged sword - you cannot know the intention from the outset of a brief comment, you can only infer it.
I would agree that my comment could have subsequently been twisted into an “oh no, I didn’t mean that!” bullshit excuse, but I think the context of everything else I say proves that to be a false interpretation. Meanwhile, in general I like to let jokes fly and see how people react, for better or worse.
They really don’t though. They’ve said multiple times now that if you give them a two state solution on the 1969 borders without an occupation then they’ll be happy.
This is a very narrow and low effort point of view to take when you don’t really know history.
Evil, terror and war always take new forms. In this case you might say each side are nazis, but it is just a populist way to give cheap shock value statement.
there is enough shocking information from hamas and idf to analyze new ways to critic what is unfolding.
Fuck terror fuck war. This is a mess.
Both sides aren’t Nazis. The Nazis had German-level organisation behind them. Hamas has had significant organisation (at least for 7 Oct) that is for sure, but the level of organisation behind the IDF is far greater and better coordinated.
Or do you count Quatar, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Houthies, Hezbolla, etc.? When the reality is laid out all of a sudden, it’s not just poooor little Hamas. Hamas is part of a coalition, and their goal is maximum Palestian casualties for maximum outrage by people blaming the wrong party.
You’ve forgotten that I’ve already attributed much of Hamas’ organisation to Iran in another conversation with you.
However you’re ignoring how the comment you’re replying to mentioned that Israel is far more organised. The point I’m making here is that Israel is closer to stereotypical German organisation than Hamas or its backers.
Very narrow and low effort, I agree. Was trying to generate some conversation, and it’s worked.
That said, Israel is pretty much running an open air concentration camp. They control pretty much all of the resources that the Gazans need. They targeted and bombed so many hospitals, schools, and community centers after specifically telling people to evacuate to these locations, that it’s no longer an “oopsie”, it’s an actual war crime. They’ve targeted and murdered over 60 journalists to prevent information from getting out. They’ve actively murdered people that have clearly surrendered. They’ve been caught burning food, medicine, and resources that would have helped the Gazans.
The IDF’s actions are indefensible. They have one of the most powerful, well trained, and well-funded militaries in the world, they don’t have the luxury of “accidents”, “misfires”, and “confusion” to obfuscate their actions as the weapons and tools that they have at their disposal are some of the most effective and reliable tools in the entire world. Those shelled locations are INTENTIONAL. Those murdered journalists were INTENTIONAL. Those bombed out evacuation zones were INTENTIONAL.
HAMAS is a terrorist group. The IDF are fucking Nazis.
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Removed under rule 5, keep it civil.
Removed? I still see it fine.
And really??? Over the word asshat?
Read the sidebar:
“Rule 5: Keep it civil. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!”
You’re wrong because the Nazis were Socialist. It’s in the name.
/s because the mods are about, I wanted to let the joke fly on its own without the tag but I’m not sure that’s wise hah.
Edit2: Oof nevermind, apparently mocking people who take the “Nazis are socialist, it’s in the name” argument is too much for people.
The problem is making a statement like that is a very clear demonstration of Poe’s Law.
Because some people actually honestly believe that the Nazis were socialists, without any other indication nobody can tell if you’re being sarcastic or not.
I reflexively downvoted you before reading the second paragraph and amending my vote.
No worries lol but I would say that Poe’s law is a bit of a double edged sword - you cannot know the intention from the outset of a brief comment, you can only infer it.
I would agree that my comment could have subsequently been twisted into an “oh no, I didn’t mean that!” bullshit excuse, but I think the context of everything else I say proves that to be a false interpretation. Meanwhile, in general I like to let jokes fly and see how people react, for better or worse.
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Did you call Allies Nazis for wanting to kill Nazis?
Did the Allies want to exterminate Germans or stop the Nazis? If they wanted to exterminate Germans they did a really bad job of it.
This sentence is so generic it could be applied to both sides, depending on what’s your opinion of either side.
They really don’t though. They’ve said multiple times now that if you give them a two state solution on the 1969 borders without an occupation then they’ll be happy.
This is a very narrow and low effort point of view to take when you don’t really know history. Evil, terror and war always take new forms. In this case you might say each side are nazis, but it is just a populist way to give cheap shock value statement. there is enough shocking information from hamas and idf to analyze new ways to critic what is unfolding. Fuck terror fuck war. This is a mess.
Both sides aren’t Nazis. The Nazis had German-level organisation behind them. Hamas has had significant organisation (at least for 7 Oct) that is for sure, but the level of organisation behind the IDF is far greater and better coordinated.
Or do you count Quatar, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Houthies, Hezbolla, etc.? When the reality is laid out all of a sudden, it’s not just poooor little Hamas. Hamas is part of a coalition, and their goal is maximum Palestian casualties for maximum outrage by people blaming the wrong party.
You’ve forgotten that I’ve already attributed much of Hamas’ organisation to Iran in another conversation with you.
However you’re ignoring how the comment you’re replying to mentioned that Israel is far more organised. The point I’m making here is that Israel is closer to stereotypical German organisation than Hamas or its backers.
It’s the irony that hurts.
Very narrow and low effort, I agree. Was trying to generate some conversation, and it’s worked.
That said, Israel is pretty much running an open air concentration camp. They control pretty much all of the resources that the Gazans need. They targeted and bombed so many hospitals, schools, and community centers after specifically telling people to evacuate to these locations, that it’s no longer an “oopsie”, it’s an actual war crime. They’ve targeted and murdered over 60 journalists to prevent information from getting out. They’ve actively murdered people that have clearly surrendered. They’ve been caught burning food, medicine, and resources that would have helped the Gazans.
The IDF’s actions are indefensible. They have one of the most powerful, well trained, and well-funded militaries in the world, they don’t have the luxury of “accidents”, “misfires”, and “confusion” to obfuscate their actions as the weapons and tools that they have at their disposal are some of the most effective and reliable tools in the entire world. Those shelled locations are INTENTIONAL. Those murdered journalists were INTENTIONAL. Those bombed out evacuation zones were INTENTIONAL.
HAMAS is a terrorist group. The IDF are fucking Nazis.
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It’s wild how we have simplified all modern complex issues to “it’s because of the (fill in the blank extremely popular bad guys)”
Guess it’s not worth thinking about the actual issues.
But the issues are caused by the bad guys.
Pretty convenient it’s always a nameless generic bad guy for the actual bad guys though.
trolling then, and comment still up
Good comment
You’re wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯