• illiterate_coder@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Commerce is just the exchange of goods and services. If we all stop exchanging goods, in what sense would we have a civilization? What would you or anyone accomplish if you had to grow your own food, make your own clothes, build your own house…?

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      11 months ago

      An exchange of goods and services means you get nothing unless I get something. Maybe OP means everything is given as you take what you need with nothing expected in return.

      You grow carrots, you bring them to town once a week. Other lady raises chickens, brings eggs once a week. If you need either you take some. You use the eggs to make cookies, you have extra, you give them away to anyone you see for the day.

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        11 months ago

        This works at a feudal technology level. Who makes the trains? They train makers need steel and literally no one would work in a forge or a mine for fun/preference.

        Who makes computer chips?

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          11 months ago

          People with the skills show up and collectively make chips, there may be less than produced by typical “blood from a rock” endless growth pacing, but there would at least be enough chips for hospitals, emergency services.

          And without the profit motive, the products made would actually be built to last and engineered to be serviceable because there’s actually incentive for them to NOT be disposable.

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            11 months ago

            In order to create modern tech, you’ll need not only specialized knowledge, but also raw materials. I’m not convinced there would be any volunteer to mine cobalt and lithium without getting paid.

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          Currency is a natural evolution of commerce. Direct barter only works if the person selling what you need wants something you have.

          Say you want to buy flowers. If the florist wants shoes and you only have bread or hammers to spare, then tough luck.

          Any large society cannot function with such a clunky way to exchange goods/services. Currency is merely a proxy that allows both sides to trade their goods using a tool they both value similarly. Hell, some civilisations used giant boulders as currency… it’s hardly a new concept.