I didn’t realize you were THE concentration camp expert. Perhaps I should go to you the next time I need a “proper definition” of what concentration camp and genocide is? My apologies.
For me, this sounds like you want to say something that sounds cool, rather than something you actually believe. It sounds driven by emotion rather than by rationality.
The lemmy community gives you upvotes, the historians would ask you WTF you are doing and send you an invitation to actually visit what has been such a concentration camp.
Just because it’s not a Nazi camp, doesn’t mean it isn’t a camp. European Jews don’t own the trademark on misery (even if they had misery in the recent past).
If you have this much time to argue about what is a concentration camp, you have time to answer these nonsensical questions yourself. Why does Israeli defense essentially start with:
We’ll actually guys technically…
Imagine if I said the Holocaust was not genocide because enough European Jews were left to start Israel (there were millions left). You would rightfully call me an idiot.
Their defense starts with “They attacked us, we are defending ourselves and that’s our right. And to ensure that this does not happen again, we need to get rid of the terror organization Hamas.”
I’m not a fan of how many civilians are getting killed.
On the other hand, keeping Hamas in power will ensure that this will go on forever and civilian on both sides will still be killed in decades with multiple 1-3-year gaps of pseudo-peace between.
The concentration camps in the east, like Auschwitz, were almost exclusively extermination camps meant to wipe out whoever entered on an industrial scale. Gaza is not an extermination camp.
The “normal” concentration camps weren’t significantly better. Around 10% - 50% of inmates died, depending on the camp - be it from starvation, illness, medical experimentation or just live target practice.
Is every single Gazan enslaved and forced to build Israeli weapons and does Israel prevent Gazans from leaving under threat of collective punishment?
Gaza is the dictionary definition of a ghetto, not a concentration camp.
The concentration camps in the east, like Auschwitz…
So what. What do you want me to say?: “Well OK, Hitler was better at making concentration camps.”
The “normal” concentration camps weren’t significantly better. Around 10% - 50% of inmates died, depending on the camp - be it from starvation, illness, medical experimentation or just live target practice.
For the last few decades, getting aid into Gaza has been difficult. Isreal has refused to relinquish it as it’s own territory; even though it was obvious these people don’t want to be Isreali.
Is every single Gazan enslaved and forced to build Israeli weapons
Isreal has Biden on speed dial; why do Gazan children need to build wepons for Isreal?
does Israel prevent Gazans from leaving under threat of collective punishment?
You are right. They got punished for staying on their land. The issue is you don’t understand why Palestinians are punished. Not being Jewish is NOT a crime. Speaking Arabic is not a crime. Imagine if you go tell the French, “All Roman Catholic Latin speakers need to go back to Rome.” Palestinians are a natural product of history. History did not stop in when Israel fell in 722 BC or when Judah fell in the 500s BC.
Gaza is the dictionary definition of a ghetto, not a concentration camp.
A ghetto? In what context is Gaza a ghetto? A ghetto is supposed to be an impoverished part of a city. Israel has caused that whole side of the country to be a locked down and short of resources; including the areas around the city.
Gaza has been a concentration camp for a long time now.
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I didn’t realize you were THE concentration camp expert. Perhaps I should go to you the next time I need a “proper definition” of what concentration camp and genocide is? My apologies.
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For me, this sounds like you want to say something that sounds cool, rather than something you actually believe. It sounds driven by emotion rather than by rationality.
The lemmy community gives you upvotes, the historians would ask you WTF you are doing and send you an invitation to actually visit what has been such a concentration camp.
Just because it’s not a Nazi camp, doesn’t mean it isn’t a camp. European Jews don’t own the trademark on misery (even if they had misery in the recent past).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans
It was called concentration camp above. That’s what I criticized.
If you have this much time to argue about what is a concentration camp, you have time to answer these nonsensical questions yourself. Why does Israeli defense essentially start with:
Imagine if I said the Holocaust was not genocide because enough European Jews were left to start Israel (there were millions left). You would rightfully call me an idiot.
Their defense starts with “They attacked us, we are defending ourselves and that’s our right. And to ensure that this does not happen again, we need to get rid of the terror organization Hamas.”
I’m not a fan of how many civilians are getting killed.
On the other hand, keeping Hamas in power will ensure that this will go on forever and civilian on both sides will still be killed in decades with multiple 1-3-year gaps of pseudo-peace between.
Why do the Palestinians who get kicked out of their homes not count. You ignore crimes.
No it hasn’t.
The concentration camps in the east, like Auschwitz, were almost exclusively extermination camps meant to wipe out whoever entered on an industrial scale. Gaza is not an extermination camp.
The “normal” concentration camps weren’t significantly better. Around 10% - 50% of inmates died, depending on the camp - be it from starvation, illness, medical experimentation or just live target practice.
Is every single Gazan enslaved and forced to build Israeli weapons and does Israel prevent Gazans from leaving under threat of collective punishment?
Gaza is the dictionary definition of a ghetto, not a concentration camp.
So what. What do you want me to say?: “Well OK, Hitler was better at making concentration camps.”
For the last few decades, getting aid into Gaza has been difficult. Isreal has refused to relinquish it as it’s own territory; even though it was obvious these people don’t want to be Isreali.
Isreal has Biden on speed dial; why do Gazan children need to build wepons for Isreal?
You are right. They got punished for staying on their land. The issue is you don’t understand why Palestinians are punished. Not being Jewish is NOT a crime. Speaking Arabic is not a crime. Imagine if you go tell the French, “All Roman Catholic Latin speakers need to go back to Rome.” Palestinians are a natural product of history. History did not stop in when Israel fell in 722 BC or when Judah fell in the 500s BC.
A ghetto? In what context is Gaza a ghetto? A ghetto is supposed to be an impoverished part of a city. Israel has caused that whole side of the country to be a locked down and short of resources; including the areas around the city.