Even as the threat of famine stalks the war-ravaged Gaza Strip, Israeli protesters have gathered repeatedly to stop desperately needed aid from getting into the Palestinian territory.
Here is what struck me recently about the Israeli people.
Germans went genocidal because of the depression. Because they were starving. Because they were suffering. Because they needed something to rally around, and Hitler gave them the worst possible thing to rally around.
Israeli’s live the good life. They are wealthy. They are protected. They want for nothing. They are the American socialist state that Americans don’t get the have, but pay for Israelis to have.
They are genocidal because they are human trash. No other excuse.
You’re right, slightly less than a third of Americans support Biden, who is the architect of the genocide. Slightly less than that support Trump, and a little more than a third support neither.
This means that America isn’t in the clear either.
I will readily concede “not all”, but in both cases, America and Israel, “enough of a majority to be a Defcon 2 concern.”
We are definitely at pre-WWII levels of fascism, and we need to do something about it before it comes to a head on a global scale, and with Russia aligning with South Africa, we are barreling head first into a global conflict, this time with America on the side of the genocide.
Yes. And their big robust US built defense systems block virtually all of those attacks, leading to virtually zero casualties or property damage, as they perpetually use big robust US built weapons to pummel the Gaza strip daily, where they have no defense systems, where constant massive loss of life and infrastructure are endured.
You’re that type of prick that thinks if someone steps on your grass, you should shoot em dead and rape their corpse, aren’t ya?
No you’re mistaken. The side you support raped and paraded the raped bodies through cheering crowds. The other side is trying to recover people who were taken as sex slaves in the original slave raid.
The amount of bullshit you spew on a regular basis is pretty impressive. Your comment history is like an Israeli propaganda primer.
“It’s not a genocide, they’re just killing more civilians than combatants and starving out the population by blocking humanitarian aid, just like past genocides. But this one is different because it you object you’re automatically an anti-semite!”
They are acting like every other group of people who was given special status. History is littered with the same cautionary tale. You cannot give any group of people special protections over another. It will always end in the group abusing their power for their own gain. Saddam did it in Iraq, Al-Assad did it in Syria, all of the colonial powers did it in Africa and those are just recent examples.
Sorry, but Germans didn’t turn into Nazis because oft the Depression. There was a lot that lead to to uprising of the Nazis. Read about the Peace of Versailles or in German “Schmach von Versailles”. Also political culture in the Weimarer Republic which was massively focused on raw violence between the different groups. Read about deflation. Read about Franz von Papen and so on. Don’t search for excuses for right wing extremism.
Saying the Israeli people is on the same page or worse than Hitler adds nothing to the conversation and is, at best, just wrong. Best regards, a German.
PS: Don’t stop criticising the acts of the Israeli government and definitely the IDF, but stop generalising and making all Jews responsible. Otherwise you could also say that all Palestinians are Hamas.
Otherwise I wanted to make the point that comparing the Jewish people to the Nazis is wrong and only ads more oil to the fire. Criticise Israeli government, IDF, violent settlers, stupid people blocking neccessary aid for Gaza but don’t fall in the antisemitism trap where Jewish people even in other countries are held responsible for the actions of a right wing government.
But Melkath never even mentioned jews. He specifically said Israelis throughout his post. And he pretty clearly compared the Israeli people to nazis, not what you said, which was comparing jewish people to nazis.
It feels like you’re doing exactly what the German government is doing, which is equating criticism of Israelis and of Israel to antisemitism.
He called the Israeli people ‘human trash’ (Isreal considers itself state of the Jews). And he meant all of the Israeli people. What do you think this rhetoric leads to?
And as I stated multiple times above I am all in on criticising the Israeli gevernment and no I am not doing exactly what the German government is doing. I would argue for a stopping of all delivery of arms via the the German government and for a ceasefire asap. I see a huge problem with the way the Israeli government walked into the trap planted by Hamas and is now part of a war which may be labeled as a genocide. So why should you call all of the Israeli people ‘human trash’ when you could specify your criticism? It’s the same as calling all Palestinians Hamas.
I am calling the military state of Israel, which is ethnically cleansing the Palestinian people so they can build… luxury condo buildings… human trash.
Stmcld is correct, I draw a distinct line between the military state of Israel and the Jewish religion.
Quite frankly, fuck you for the words you have tried to put in my mouth.
Happy to take a few licks for it, because it is an oversimplification.
100% NOT making an excuse. Citing a contributing cause.
Still, the level of luxury Israel enjoys ala the US Public Trust really casts their behavior in a much more despicable light. If they were attacking Hamas, that would be one thing. At this point, it looks more like they just want to genocide Palestinians because they are bored and hateful human trash.
Here is what struck me recently about the Israeli people.
Germans went genocidal because of the depression. Because they were starving. Because they were suffering. Because they needed something to rally around, and Hitler gave them the worst possible thing to rally around.
Israeli’s live the good life. They are wealthy. They are protected. They want for nothing. They are the American socialist state that Americans don’t get the have, but pay for Israelis to have.
They are genocidal because they are human trash. No other excuse.
Certainly not all of them fit this bill, just like how not all Americans are vicious Trump supporting lunatics.
You’re right, slightly less than a third of Americans support Biden, who is the architect of the genocide. Slightly less than that support Trump, and a little more than a third support neither.
This means that America isn’t in the clear either.
I will readily concede “not all”, but in both cases, America and Israel, “enough of a majority to be a Defcon 2 concern.”
We are definitely at pre-WWII levels of fascism, and we need to do something about it before it comes to a head on a global scale, and with Russia aligning with South Africa, we are barreling head first into a global conflict, this time with America on the side of the genocide.
I need to stop reading stuff here. It’s just too dumb. Maybe blocking on the community level is the way to go. That’s how dumb your take is.
Adios. Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out!
Israelis overwhelmingly support this “war”, though. Not to mention the Israeli right is growing, not shrinking.
You missed, they get attacked almost daily.
Yes. And their big robust US built defense systems block virtually all of those attacks, leading to virtually zero casualties or property damage, as they perpetually use big robust US built weapons to pummel the Gaza strip daily, where they have no defense systems, where constant massive loss of life and infrastructure are endured.
Virtually zero is not only far from zero, it doesn’t excuse constant aggression.
Hamas’ incompetence isn’t a defense.
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No you’re mistaken. The side you support raped and paraded the raped bodies through cheering crowds. The other side is trying to recover people who were taken as sex slaves in the original slave raid.
There is no excuse for genocide.
Stop advocating for genocide.
It’s not a genocide. It could easily be one given the technology difference. It’s clearly not one.
You are incorrect.
The amount of bullshit you spew on a regular basis is pretty impressive. Your comment history is like an Israeli propaganda primer.
“It’s not a genocide, they’re just killing more civilians than combatants and starving out the population by blocking humanitarian aid, just like past genocides. But this one is different because it you object you’re automatically an anti-semite!”
Sure.
They are acting like every other group of people who was given special status. History is littered with the same cautionary tale. You cannot give any group of people special protections over another. It will always end in the group abusing their power for their own gain. Saddam did it in Iraq, Al-Assad did it in Syria, all of the colonial powers did it in Africa and those are just recent examples.
Sorry, but Germans didn’t turn into Nazis because oft the Depression. There was a lot that lead to to uprising of the Nazis. Read about the Peace of Versailles or in German “Schmach von Versailles”. Also political culture in the Weimarer Republic which was massively focused on raw violence between the different groups. Read about deflation. Read about Franz von Papen and so on. Don’t search for excuses for right wing extremism.
Saying the Israeli people is on the same page or worse than Hitler adds nothing to the conversation and is, at best, just wrong. Best regards, a German.
PS: Don’t stop criticising the acts of the Israeli government and definitely the IDF, but stop generalising and making all Jews responsible. Otherwise you could also say that all Palestinians are Hamas.
Can you refer to anything more specific? Your reading tips are so incredibly broad and would take hundreds of hours.
How good is the translation via Deepl or other tools? This should be a broad overview, but it’s German.
You could also try English Wikipedia for more background.
Otherwise I wanted to make the point that comparing the Jewish people to the Nazis is wrong and only ads more oil to the fire. Criticise Israeli government, IDF, violent settlers, stupid people blocking neccessary aid for Gaza but don’t fall in the antisemitism trap where Jewish people even in other countries are held responsible for the actions of a right wing government.
But Melkath never even mentioned jews. He specifically said Israelis throughout his post. And he pretty clearly compared the Israeli people to nazis, not what you said, which was comparing jewish people to nazis.
It feels like you’re doing exactly what the German government is doing, which is equating criticism of Israelis and of Israel to antisemitism.
He called the Israeli people ‘human trash’ (Isreal considers itself state of the Jews). And he meant all of the Israeli people. What do you think this rhetoric leads to?
And as I stated multiple times above I am all in on criticising the Israeli gevernment and no I am not doing exactly what the German government is doing. I would argue for a stopping of all delivery of arms via the the German government and for a ceasefire asap. I see a huge problem with the way the Israeli government walked into the trap planted by Hamas and is now part of a war which may be labeled as a genocide. So why should you call all of the Israeli people ‘human trash’ when you could specify your criticism? It’s the same as calling all Palestinians Hamas.
I am calling the military state of Israel, which is ethnically cleansing the Palestinian people so they can build… luxury condo buildings… human trash.
Stmcld is correct, I draw a distinct line between the military state of Israel and the Jewish religion.
Quite frankly, fuck you for the words you have tried to put in my mouth.
Nice discussion culture you are having here. Might mistake lemmy for reddit.
Go back then.
Feel free to leave.
What a stupid and historically blind take. Don’t make excuses for Nazism and especially don’t reduce the path to it to hunger.
Happy to take a few licks for it, because it is an oversimplification.
100% NOT making an excuse. Citing a contributing cause.
Still, the level of luxury Israel enjoys ala the US Public Trust really casts their behavior in a much more despicable light. If they were attacking Hamas, that would be one thing. At this point, it looks more like they just want to genocide Palestinians because they are bored and hateful human trash.