• klangcola@reddthat.com
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    1 year ago

    Genuine question: Is that good or bad? What kind of farmers? Food or tulips? Humans gotta eat, and I thought Netherlands produces a lot of Europe’s agricultural output

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      It’s not even for better yield, it’s for better access with heavy machinery And the Netherlands exports too much as this water issue is one of a few ways in which our agriculture intensity is harming the long term health of nature and the fertility of the land itself

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              So the farmers reduce the water table so the country isn’t muddy?

              No, it’s so the are they’re farming on isn’t too muddy for the heavy machinery. They’re not talking about the areas peope are normally driving on.

              But the water table being lower than the rainfall means there’s a drought and things are getting too dry. That’s not good for anybody. It harms the very ecosystem they’re trying to farm in.

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      Farmers as being described here are not some podunk hillbillies living off the land. These are massive corporate entities who have cannibalized their competition over the last 60 years. They don’t toil in the fields, their hordes of underpaid Southeast Asian and African immigrants do that for them, while they drive around in Land Rovers.

      This is not something done out of necessity, this is done out of keeping their profit margins as high as possible.

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        Im just going to step up and point out that I am not a podunk hillbilly living off the land. I am a well educated human being that left the city during the pandemic to keep all my food as local as possible (read: from my yard or my neighbors). I also sell at a farmstand on my own property, as well as donate to food pantries in my current area, the pantry for the neighborhood that raised me which is a food desert, and to my religiously affiliated (not a christian by any stretch, by the way) pantry.

        That said, I am not a European and maybe you have farmers/homesteaders out there that are like that-- but I kindly request you do not lump all of us into such a shit category.

        It’s not nice to make assumptions about a large group of people-- history has taught us that time and time again.

        On the massive corporate farms, however… no matter where-- you’re 100% correct.

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          Unless you are “intentionally keeping the land dry for better yields and easier access with heavy machinery” or have “hordes of underpaid immigrants working for you” I don’t think you should feel called our or lumped together with them in this characterization 😋

        • MercuryUprising@lemmy.world
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          Yeah, but I specifically mentioned “farmers as being described here.” I’m obviously not referring to small farmers, but corporate entities. I was pretty explicit about that I’d say.

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        That’s never going to work with my natural inclination for British sarcastic rhetoric is it?