• mwguy@infosec.pub
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    10 months ago

    And what terms do you propose that would be observed by Hamas?

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        10 months ago

        The reason there’s a massive security apparatus around Palestine is not to oppress Palestinians or impose racial hierarchy, it is because they have been trying to murder Jews for the last 70+ years.

        The violence against Israel is the reason for this. Hamas is a cause of the violence. They create the very situation they say they want to end.

        If they want the walls to come down and the blockade to end, they need to show a commitment to peace, rather than a commitment to genocide.

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          10 months ago

          The violence against Palestinians is the reason for this. Zionism/Israel is a cause of the violence. They create the very situation they say they want to end.

          If they want the walls to come down and the blockade to end, they need to show a commitment to peace, rather than a commitment to genocide.

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          10 months ago

          Super weird that when you commit a genocide against a people and then colonise their land they aren’t thrilled about it.

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      10 months ago

      I can confidently say that if Israel stops supporting settlers taking Palestinian homes, killing Palestinians indiscriminately, and no longer enforce apartheid Hamas would observe an end to violent hostilities.

      It isn’t like Hamas can offer more than not being the instigator of violence, and if your calender goes back further than October you will see that Hamas arose to power in response to Israeli violence.

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        10 months ago

        Oh so you’re the leader of Hamas, I suppose?

        My calendar goes back further than October https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel

        I see thousands upon thousands of rockets launched by Hamas at civilians in Israel.

        Hamas are a group of authoritarian goons that are paid by bitter oil-rich Arab billionaires to kill as many Jews as they can. If they stopped the money would dry up and some other group of authoritarian goons with Iranian made weapons would take their place. Their existence is dependent on hatred towards Israel, without that they wouldn’t exist.

        They aren’t the rag tag group of freedom fighters your social media feed has led you to believe. They’re genocidal psychopaths that would slit your throat in your sleep if it would benefit them.

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        10 months ago

        It’s a nice thought and I’d hope the majority of the Palestinian people might… settle for that, but Hamas itself is founded on principles that are fairly extreme. Their charter is real rough, a paragraph early on about murdering all Jews everywhere is just the start.

        Hamas has defined their government based on perpetual war and other problematic conditions. It’s difficult to envision a lasting peace while they’re still around.

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          10 months ago

          They stated they’d accept a two-state solution in 2017, but honestly what they’d accept doesn’t matter. They’d have two options: Adapt or go the way of the IRA.

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        10 months ago

        I can confidently say that if Israel stops supporting settlers taking Palestinian homes, killing Palestinians indiscriminately, and no longer enforce apartheid Hamas would observe an end to violent hostilities.

        Hamas disagrees with you.