This should have been done sooner, we’ve known since basically the beginning of this entire ordeal that the majority of the heads of Hamas relocated to Qatar.
Israel and it’s allies could have easily made negotiations with Qatar to hand over the Hamas leaders and accomplished a ceasefire sooner using that as leverage, but instead, because Israel’s government has ulterior motives with illegally settling Gaza, they basically erase the existence of the northern portion and have real estate companies advertising new developments on the seafront where Palestinian homes used to be.
To be “fair” Hamas is a grassroots organization. It exists because there’s popular will for it to exist, not because of one person or a few people. This does mean the Israeli Orphanization force is doing anything to curb Hamas, but it’s not like Hamas needs its leaders to exist.
Since Hamas is internationally recognized as a terrorist organization, are you implying that Palestinians support those views? I’d like to think most of them only want peace.
It’s called a terrorist organization according to the US and its allies. Now they’re not good, more like morally grey, but they’re not any worse than the IDF. Also given that Hamas has agreed to a two-state solution before, I’m not sure what beliefs you’re objecting to Palestinians having.
It’s a decision made for practical reasons, much like the PLO switching from armed to peaceful resistance and the Palestinian resistance movement as a whole switching from taking back all of Palestine to returning to 1967 borders. Hamas ideologically rejects Israel (for good reason) so they’re not willing to recognize it, but denying the position they’re in won’t accomplish anything, hence their current position. You can think of them as a more self-aware IRA.
See also: The PLO taking back their recognition of Israel during the second Intifada despite not changing their goal of a two-state solution.
You know one terrorist is a liberation fighter for another. And those labels are given by the strong side.
There are plenty of examples of very ambiguous terrorist designation by a lot of countries, like Turkiey for example, who have labelled the PKK as a terrorist organisation.
If Israel had recognised the Palestinian statehood and didn’t make everything possible to prevent them from uniting them, Hamas wouldn’t exist.
If Israel had recognised the Palestinian statehood and didn’t make everything possible to prevent them from uniting them, Hamas wouldn’t exist.
I think you may lack the historical background to make these kinds of pronouncements. Palestinian Arabs had been trying to expel Jews since the late Ottoman era. Increased Jewish immigration during British rule only aggravated that.
This should have been done sooner, we’ve known since basically the beginning of this entire ordeal that the majority of the heads of Hamas relocated to Qatar.
Israel and it’s allies could have easily made negotiations with Qatar to hand over the Hamas leaders and accomplished a ceasefire sooner using that as leverage, but instead, because Israel’s government has ulterior motives with illegally settling Gaza, they basically erase the existence of the northern portion and have real estate companies advertising new developments on the seafront where Palestinian homes used to be.
To be “fair” Hamas is a grassroots organization. It exists because there’s popular will for it to exist, not because of one person or a few people. This does mean the Israeli Orphanization force is doing anything to curb Hamas, but it’s not like Hamas needs its leaders to exist.
Since Hamas is internationally recognized as a terrorist organization, are you implying that Palestinians support those views? I’d like to think most of them only want peace.
It’s called a terrorist organization according to the US and its allies. Now they’re not good, more like morally grey, but they’re not any worse than the IDF. Also given that Hamas has agreed to a two-state solution before, I’m not sure what beliefs you’re objecting to Palestinians having.
I think you may be conflating Hamas and the PLO. Hamas maintains that Israel should not exist.
Hamas doesn’t recognize Israel, but has stated they’d accept a two-state solution with 1967 borders multiple times.
Do you think those two things are logically consistent?
It’s a decision made for practical reasons, much like the PLO switching from armed to peaceful resistance and the Palestinian resistance movement as a whole switching from taking back all of Palestine to returning to 1967 borders. Hamas ideologically rejects Israel (for good reason) so they’re not willing to recognize it, but denying the position they’re in won’t accomplish anything, hence their current position. You can think of them as a more self-aware IRA.
See also: The PLO taking back their recognition of Israel during the second Intifada despite not changing their goal of a two-state solution.
That sounds less like a two state solution than a “we are biding our time until we can take the rest” situation.
You know one terrorist is a liberation fighter for another. And those labels are given by the strong side.
There are plenty of examples of very ambiguous terrorist designation by a lot of countries, like Turkiey for example, who have labelled the PKK as a terrorist organisation.
If Israel had recognised the Palestinian statehood and didn’t make everything possible to prevent them from uniting them, Hamas wouldn’t exist.
I think you may lack the historical background to make these kinds of pronouncements. Palestinian Arabs had been trying to expel Jews since the late Ottoman era. Increased Jewish immigration during British rule only aggravated that.