UN Security Council passes resolution calling for an “immediate ceasefire” in Gaza, as US shifts position by abstaining from vote

  • Blackbeard@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    77
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    9 months ago

    This is a pretty big shift for the US, and it means the pressure is finally starting to really register with Biden. If the “uncommited” results in the Michigan primary were enough to get his attention, recent polling that puts him 8 points behind Trump likely changed the debate for the foreseeable future.

    • Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      47
      arrow-down
      12
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      Biden is playing diplomatic chess. Netanyahu warned the US before the vote that Israel would not participate in a meeting if the US didn’t use its veto. So, now the US didn’t. BTW, Hamas launched rockets at Ashdod right before the Security Council voted confirming its status as an equal fighting party in the war before a ceasefire.

      • gmtom@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        40
        arrow-down
        21
        ·
        9 months ago

        What you mean to tell me geopolitical diplomacy is more complicated and delicate than the people screaming “genocide Joe” think it is??? Shocking.

        • soratoyuki@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          33
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          9 months ago

          No. It means enough people screaming genocide Joe loudly enough had a small but tangible impact on American foreign policy.

          • gmtom@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            15
            ·
            9 months ago

            No

            So you’re unironically arguing that geopolitical diplomacy IS actually simple? Really?

              • gmtom@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                13
                ·
                edit-2
                9 months ago

                That sentence isn’t relevant though is it?

                Do you think geopolitics is that simple or nah?

                • soratoyuki@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  9
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  9 months ago

                  Of course the sentence is relevant. I’m not sure why I should bother writing a reply to you when you apparently stop reading them after the first word. Have a good day.

                  • gmtom@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    arrow-down
                    12
                    ·
                    9 months ago

                    JFC you aren’t even denying it. you guys actually unironically believe it’s that simple.

            • soratoyuki@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              9
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              9 months ago

              Certainly not, but he definitely cares about the 100,000 people that voted uncommitted in Michigan and the littany of polls that show a majority of Democratic and young voters not supporting current US foreign policy.

            • pjwestin@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              9 months ago

              The uncommitted movement got 100K votes Michigan, and within days the Biden administration started a complete 180 on Israel. It’s more than a few Twitter users and he clearly cares very deeply.

            • AgentDalePoopster@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              15
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              9 months ago

              You don’t think that realizing he was pissing off his base, during an election year, has any impact on his choices?

              • catloaf@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                9
                ·
                9 months ago

                Considering those people are not going to vote Trump over this, or probably any issue, I don’t think he cares, no.

                • njm1314@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  9 months ago

                  You say that but I think there’s a sizable number that already are voting for Trump

                • Aniki 🌱🌿@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  8
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  9 months ago

                  It’s not about people changing their minds. Centrists don’t really exist. It’s about motivating people to actually fucking vote. When people vote, Dems win. When Dems are unpopular, people don’t vote and Rs win because they vote no matter what.

                  • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    arrow-down
                    6
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    9 months ago

                    No, we’re all happily voting 3rd party. Legit none of us stay home.

                    Edit: Seriously downvote all you want, I’m just letting you genojoe does not win if that’s who you decide to run in the end. Your move, DNC.

        • Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          9 months ago

          Do you suppose that Bibi believes there are ramifications for going into Rafah now?

      • mkwt@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        9 months ago

        So you’re saying that Biden had another motivation here: telling Netanyahu, “the US ain’t nobody’s bitch, and you don’t tell me what to do.”

    • Maeve@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      13
      ·
      9 months ago

      I said elsewhere, “just in time for November.” Didn’t be fooled.