Beijing is “picking a side” and can’t claim to be neutral any more, the US ambassador to NATO tells POLITICO.

China is helping Russia meet its war goals in Ukraine by continuing to sell supplies such as drone technology and gunpowder ingredients to Moscow, the U.S. Ambassador to NATO said in an interview.

“The PRC [People’s Republic of China] cannot claim to be entirely neutral in this case, [and] they are in fact picking a side,” Julianne Smith told POLITICO on Tuesday. “I think when the PRC tries to portray itself as neutral, when it comes to this war, we don’t buy it.”

Smith said the United States was “increasingly seeing materiel support” from China to Russia, adding that this equipment — which can have both civilian and military uses — had played a critical role in helping Moscow achieve some of its aims against Ukraine.

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    The difference is that Ukraine didn’t attack russia… Palestine would wipe Israel and every jew off the planet if they had the ability to. Not saying what Israel is doing is right, but acting like the other side is without fault is disingenuous.

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      And Palestine didn’t attack Israel. Israel never allowed for a Palestine. But a history of apartheid, check. History of land grabs and illegal settlements, check. History of dehumanizing an entire people, check.

      We get it, you are all for dehumanizing billions of people and refuse to address the genocide, murder of women and children, mass graves, literally creating famine, cutting off food and water, happening right here and now, right in front of you. Because these are not people to you. Instead you want to direct people to some imaginary hypothetical of what someone ‘would do’.

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        Hamas is the gov in Palestine. This is like saying the usa didn’t attack Afghanistan or Iraq…just our gov did.

        And no where have I said that what Israel is doing is right, but I’m not under some delusional ignorance that hamas wouldn’t happily wipe Israel off the map if it had the means.

        That’s the difference between understanding what Islamic regimes create and thinking if no one touched them they magically would be peaceful.

        Ignoring the level of violence that is brought on by Islamic regimes is naive. You’re so afraid of calling out their bigotry and violence that you’re willing to give them a pass. You seem to just want to ignore the level of bigotry that is done in the name of that religion.

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          You speak in hypotheticals fueled by hate. Ignoring all the violence perpetrated by many peoples.

          You’re filled with hate amigo, all towards a single belief system. Meanwhile Russia has invaded Ukraine, and civilians, women and children a plenty are being slaughtered in Gaza in the here and now, not some imaginary hypothetical.

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            8 months ago

            That’s some great whataboutism. Yea other people are also violent, that doesn’t subtract from the fact that islam as a religion is one of violence.

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      Palestine would wipe Israel and every jew off the planet if they had the ability to.

      Yea, that’s a super racist statement right there.

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        There’s a conflating the goals of Hamas with the goal of Palestinian people here. Just because the majority of Palestinians support Hamas doesn’t mean they all do.

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          Also Hamas is not a monolith, same as the IRA wasn’t. So even if now a majority of Palestinians say the “support Hamas” that doesn’t mean they are supporting indiscriminate killing of Israeli civilians or even the destruction of Israel. A senior guy of theirs just came out suggesting they would be willing to disarm if a two state solution on the '67 borders was enacted. Things are always complicated. Same as not all Israelis, or even not all Israeli right wingers, are not genocidal maniacs like Ben Gvir, Palestinian hardliners are also complex. Peace is made with enemies.

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              I believe you and I have had this discussion before, and no, you cannot paint 1.9 billion people with the “they’re all violent” brush.

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                I’m not though, I’m stating the religion is violent. I don’t understand this disillusioned thought that many of you have that the religion isn’t a violent and oppressive one. The same people defending it right now, are the same ones that attack and paint other religions with a brush.

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                  There are 1.9 BILLION adherents to that religion. If the religion itself were the problem, the world would be awash in blood. It’s NOT.

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                    Do you adhear to that same logic with gun owners?

                    Supporting any religion that murders lgbtq+ persons, forces marriage and rape to minors and kills no believers is not a problem to you?

                    And the entire middle east and a large portion of Africa are awash in blood because of this religion.

                    Also why are you removing links to actual facts now?

                    You all say you’re intolerant of the intolerant, but here you are defending a religion that is intolerant…

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          This has almost nothing to do with Islam. They were ejected from their lands and then shoved into tightly controlled areas while being denied the right to exist as their own country. They are terrorists fighting for their independence.

          “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.” Has never rung more true than for the Palestinians. I won’t argue that they aren’t committing acts of terror, they absolutely are, but it’s not purely bloodlust for the sake of their religion. It’s the only thing they have left as the entire world failed them.

          They’re now stuck (HAMAS) with an asshat of a leader though that also seems to be refusing compromise. It’s all the land they want and for Israel to go away or fuck off completely.

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            I never once said I agree with Israel. Western nations should have never done what they did creating the state, but to act like Hamas wouldn’t wipe Israel off the face of the earth in the name of religion is naive.

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          There is no such thing as a “religion of peace”. There are buddhist violent extremists. There were even anabaptist violent extremists.

          There are people who use religion to bring peace and healing, and there are people who use religion to bring discord and hatred. You are doing the latter.

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      If Ukraine has a right to defend itself against foreign aggression, so does Palestine, especially after decades of genocide. Israel is the aggressor, just like Russia.