Where did I say “Jews”? Please point that out for the whole class. Unlike you, I am able to effectively differentiate the political entity of Israel from the socio-religious culture of the global Jewish diaspora.
I am also aware that IDF tactics have repeatedly included the use of covert terrorist attacks that have then been blamed on other groups to justify their own ends. Additionally the Israeli military already set a precedent for this by attacking the United States military in a similar fashion during the Six Days War.
So, no, I do not trust Israel will not use the IDF to destroy infrastructure in order to continue blocking aid from reaching the Gazans who desperately need it.
First of all, I don’t think you need to teach me any history. Secondly, people like you need to blame everything on Isreal. You need to do that because putting the any blame on terrorist organizations that are are affiliated with Iran and Russia doesn’t fit your narrative that they’re good guys. Your good guys/bad guys routine has been going on so long its just repetitive and boring.
Look chief, I could sit here and dismantle your continued attempts at forced generalization of my positions, but that would do neither of us any good.
The minute you hit me with the “you people” routine this conversation was effectively over. If you want to have a conversation with another adult, then you’re going to have to start acting like one.
It is a little funny to me since you came in hot with the weaselly argumentation, but then immediately devolved into tired generalizations before finally folding like a wet blanket.
I’ve made my point though. You can go ahead and have the last word, which I can only assume you will be following up with some vigorous manual digital self-stimulation. Best of luck with that.
The IDF website states that most of them are Jews. So by literally combining the letters I, D and F, while also referring to the military organization, you are implying Jews.
If you are trying to not be antisemitic, you are doing a shit job of hiding it. Your aren’t being genuine here, and can fuck off with your bullshit somewhere else like HexBear or LemmyGrad.
Implying that Jewish people are responsible for the actions of the IDF and Israel is what’s antisemitic. Try as you might, you’re not going to get away with using religion as a shield for horrific crimes against humanity.
Try as you might, you’re not going to get away with using religion as a shield for horrific crimes against humanity.
That’s pretty stupid of you to say that since religious people have been getting away with it for the last two thousand years, and likely long before that.
Lol care to point out where I implied anything of the sort? I simply pointed out how you claim religion is being used to commit atrocities here, while everyone else is blaming the government.
This is honestly one of the stupidest fucking retorts I’ve read in awhile. That’s like saying “Christians nuked Japan in WW2.” While factually probable (I don’t know the religious affiliation of the dudes in the plane who dropped the bomb), it is tying a religious affiliation to a state organization. The US dropped the nukes on Japan, and the religion of the people who did it is irrelevant.
People have a problem with government of Israel, not Jewish people. People have a problem with the actions of West Bank settlers, not Jewish people. People have a problem with the IDF, not Jewish people. It’s almost like we are able to separate the actions of people from their religious affiliation. Now, countries in the Middle East that are Muslim governments have a problem with Jewish people as a whole, but that isn’t who you are arguing with here.
Where did I say “Jews”? Please point that out for the whole class. Unlike you, I am able to effectively differentiate the political entity of Israel from the socio-religious culture of the global Jewish diaspora.
I am also aware that IDF tactics have repeatedly included the use of covert terrorist attacks that have then been blamed on other groups to justify their own ends. Additionally the Israeli military already set a precedent for this by attacking the United States military in a similar fashion during the Six Days War.
So, no, I do not trust Israel will not use the IDF to destroy infrastructure in order to continue blocking aid from reaching the Gazans who desperately need it.
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Sure bud. Whatever helps you feel like you won the conversation.
First of all, I don’t think you need to teach me any history. Secondly, people like you need to blame everything on Isreal. You need to do that because putting the any blame on terrorist organizations that are are affiliated with Iran and Russia doesn’t fit your narrative that they’re good guys. Your good guys/bad guys routine has been going on so long its just repetitive and boring.
Look chief, I could sit here and dismantle your continued attempts at forced generalization of my positions, but that would do neither of us any good.
The minute you hit me with the “you people” routine this conversation was effectively over. If you want to have a conversation with another adult, then you’re going to have to start acting like one.
Fair enough. I don’t want a conversation with you. It’s useless.
Then you shouldn’t have started one, and that’s on you.
Sorry I exposed the fragility of your rhetoric, and made you reconsider your commitment towards publicly defending it. Oh, wait…no I’m not 😘
Ha! Fragility huh. That’s pretty funny.
It is a little funny to me since you came in hot with the weaselly argumentation, but then immediately devolved into tired generalizations before finally folding like a wet blanket.
I’ve made my point though. You can go ahead and have the last word, which I can only assume you will be following up with some vigorous manual digital self-stimulation. Best of luck with that.
The IDF website states that most of them are Jews. So by literally combining the letters I, D and F, while also referring to the military organization, you are implying Jews.
They have been historically tied to Jewish paramilitary forces in the New Yishuv.
Their ranks and division titles are all in Hebrew.
Their religious demographic is almost entirely Jewish.
If you are trying to not be antisemitic, you are doing a shit job of hiding it. Your aren’t being genuine here, and can fuck off with your bullshit somewhere else like HexBear or LemmyGrad.
Implying that Jewish people are responsible for the actions of the IDF and Israel is what’s antisemitic. Try as you might, you’re not going to get away with using religion as a shield for horrific crimes against humanity.
That’s pretty stupid of you to say that since religious people have been getting away with it for the last two thousand years, and likely long before that.
So you admit that you’re being antisemitic here?
No I want Israel to destroy Hamas; you have implied Jews are using false-flag guerilla tactics against their own allies like they are somehow dumb.
Lol care to point out where I implied anything of the sort? I simply pointed out how you claim religion is being used to commit atrocities here, while everyone else is blaming the government.
No. You are correct.
No, i think they’re just arguing that Israel should get away with whatever they want because religious people have done terrible things in the past.
This is honestly one of the stupidest fucking retorts I’ve read in awhile. That’s like saying “Christians nuked Japan in WW2.” While factually probable (I don’t know the religious affiliation of the dudes in the plane who dropped the bomb), it is tying a religious affiliation to a state organization. The US dropped the nukes on Japan, and the religion of the people who did it is irrelevant.
People have a problem with government of Israel, not Jewish people. People have a problem with the actions of West Bank settlers, not Jewish people. People have a problem with the IDF, not Jewish people. It’s almost like we are able to separate the actions of people from their religious affiliation. Now, countries in the Middle East that are Muslim governments have a problem with Jewish people as a whole, but that isn’t who you are arguing with here.