• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    8 months ago

    what are you going to accomplish my ruining your classmates big day

    At a guess… divestment from their university’s investments in companies that profit from Israeli genocide? You know, the thing they say they want to accomplish?

        • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          17
          ·
          8 months ago

          protesting on public areas or on the lawns is fine as long as they’re not disrupting students, making students uncomfortable, chanting antisemitic slogans, or causing classes to be disrupted.

          the protests at rutgers and brown did that just fine

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            13
            arrow-down
            7
            ·
            8 months ago

            You didn’t answer my question unless you think protesting on public areas on lawns in a way that doesn’t disrupt students, make students feel uncomfortable or causing classes to be disrupted will achieve their goals. Will it?

            As far as chanting antisemitic slogans, very little of that has been going on. As a Jew, I’m pretty damn sensitive to antisemitism and I’ve been paying close attention to these protests. Criticism of Israel is not antisemitism.

            • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              12
              ·
              8 months ago

              You didn’t answer my question unless you think protesting on public areas on lawns in a way that doesn’t disrupt students, make students feel uncomfortable or causing classes to be disrupted will achieve their goals. Will it?

              the protests at rutgers and brown did that.

              but they also realise that the school is not obligated to listen or grant 100% of their demands

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                10
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                edit-2
                8 months ago

                Rutgers and Brown are left-wing progressive schools. The University of Mississippi is not.

                And even left-wing Columbia University was a segregated school until students occupied the same building they recently occupied and their demands were met.

                Your idea that peaceful, respectful protest always gets people what they want is not borne out by history. If it were, SCOTUS would not have struck down Roe v. Wade.

                • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  11
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  yeah, and causing a scene, committing violence, and holding up classes sure worked well for the students at university of mississippi.

                  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    8
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    8 months ago

                    You still haven’t told me what they should have done to actually achieve their goals.

                    You’ve told me they should have politely protested but the university didn’t have to listen to them. Looks like the university is listening now.

                    So, again, what should they have done to actually achieve their goals?

                    Don’t tell me what you wanted them to do or what you don’t like them doing. Tell me how they should have gone about it in order to have a good chance of success.

            • Armok: God of Blood@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              8
              ·
              8 months ago

              If they want to achieve goals against the university administration, they should protest in a way that disrupts the administration, not the students.

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                5
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                8 months ago

                Like occupying the administration building? Because that’s exactly what Columbia students did. Didn’t seem to achieve their goals. It did get them a bunch of violent police reprisals though.

                • Armok: God of Blood@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  No shit it got violent police reprisals. The students are just easy targets because they know that if they actually pick useful targets, they will get a police response. This entire thing is a show at the students’ expense.