I felt like that guy had some reasonable complaints. But in general complaining that you have to setup and configure web server like this… I don’t know. Yes, having a neat docker fast setup is convenient, but you do need a bit of skill at setting stuff up to run a server I think. So, perhaps if he doesn’t want to do some sysadmin work maybe a new beta level piece of software isn’t the best choice and did the right thing by no longer running an instance.
kbin is overall IMO fine, it has a learning curve and is a bit new. Currently most federation issues are resolved or resolvable. To be fair some of them were caused by issues with lemmy (since fixed, but not taken up by all instances) and (cough) a certain lemmy instance in particular blocking kbin in general. This kind of thing is going to make unavoidable federation issues. When I couldn’t connect to lemmy instances properly my messenger processes were restarting all the time. Now? Not “crashing” nearly as much. By crashing, it’s just that when a critical level error happens the process stops, and is reloaded right away. It doesn’t mean they stop and messages are no longer processed.
Having said that the backend and especially server admin panel need work, a lot of work. But, these things are being worked on all the time.
I’ve noticed federation with Lemmy seems much quicker after updates to both so that’s a huge step forward. And I fully understand it’s beta software, it was essentially on the stage of just Ernest and his friends using it to test things and suddenly it has 50k users. It’s a miracle it survived at all.
My biggest issue right now is the difficulty finding communities in remote instances. Searching for !community@instance.something doesn’t work and I’ve heard you’re supposed to paste the entire web adress but that doesn’t seem to work either. Puzzling since it’s so simple on Lemmy.
And while I like the front end the terminology makes no sense to me. I know it’s less important than the backend and whatnot but Magazine, Article, Boost, Favourite, Reduce… They all sound extremely unintuitive to me for what they are: communities with threads you up/downvote. And whatever Boost does. Especially since the microblogging integration means pressing “new post” doesn’t do what you think it does. And trying to pluralize Reduce ends up sounding incredibly awkward since it’s a verb and not a noun. What do you call downvotes? Reductions? Reduces?
My biggest issue right now is the difficulty finding communities in remote instances. Searching for !community doesn’t work and I’ve heard you’re supposed to paste the entire web adress but that doesn’t seem to work either. Puzzling since it’s so simple on Lemmy.
So, if the community is already present (someone has subscribed already) on your kbin instance, when you click magazines it will be there and typing part of the name will filter the list and make it show.
If the community is not yet on your instance, you click the search button at the top of the kbin screen and in that search box type the whole community@instance.tld and it should find it and auto subscribe you to it. From then on it should be in the list above.
I agree this was less than intuitive and when I first setup my instance I really did wonder why I couldn’t find anything to subscribe to.
In terms of terminology. I think it’s because kbin is trying to place itself as a halfway house between the threadiverse and microblogging. There’s going to be a learning curve and things are constantly changing.
I’m still not seeing it in neither search box. Strange. There also seems to be federation issues with some instances still. I only noticed it because PoppinKREAM migrated to Lemmy (sh.itjust.works instance) but I can’t see any of their comments, posts or user profile on Kbin.social and it’s been a week.
I think the way people interact with microblogs versus comments and posts on a link aggregator are fundamentally different enough that I’m not sure trying to unite them under the same terminology is a great idea. Boost acting like a retweet for the people who follow you is not a bad idea though if that’s how it works, just name it something other than boost so people understand it’s purpose.
And calling single-image memes in a shitpost sub “Articles” in a “Magazine” will never not be bizarre to me.
What were you looking for, I’ll look on mine. The search I am talking about (if not in magazine list) is the magnifying glass at the top right in the area with your user name.
In this case I was looking for the instance feddit.nu since I was trying to sync up subscriptions on the accounts I have. Try fedditnu@feddit.nu. Previously I tried plugins@sh.itjust.works and it still doesn’t show up no matter what I search for in the top-right magnifying glass next to the username but it has finally appeared in the magazine list now.
I felt like that guy had some reasonable complaints. But in general complaining that you have to setup and configure web server like this… I don’t know. Yes, having a neat docker fast setup is convenient, but you do need a bit of skill at setting stuff up to run a server I think. So, perhaps if he doesn’t want to do some sysadmin work maybe a new beta level piece of software isn’t the best choice and did the right thing by no longer running an instance.
kbin is overall IMO fine, it has a learning curve and is a bit new. Currently most federation issues are resolved or resolvable. To be fair some of them were caused by issues with lemmy (since fixed, but not taken up by all instances) and (cough) a certain lemmy instance in particular blocking kbin in general. This kind of thing is going to make unavoidable federation issues. When I couldn’t connect to lemmy instances properly my messenger processes were restarting all the time. Now? Not “crashing” nearly as much. By crashing, it’s just that when a critical level error happens the process stops, and is reloaded right away. It doesn’t mean they stop and messages are no longer processed.
Having said that the backend and especially server admin panel need work, a lot of work. But, these things are being worked on all the time.
Just my £0.016
I’ve noticed federation with Lemmy seems much quicker after updates to both so that’s a huge step forward. And I fully understand it’s beta software, it was essentially on the stage of just Ernest and his friends using it to test things and suddenly it has 50k users. It’s a miracle it survived at all.
My biggest issue right now is the difficulty finding communities in remote instances. Searching for !community@instance.something doesn’t work and I’ve heard you’re supposed to paste the entire web adress but that doesn’t seem to work either. Puzzling since it’s so simple on Lemmy.
And while I like the front end the terminology makes no sense to me. I know it’s less important than the backend and whatnot but Magazine, Article, Boost, Favourite, Reduce… They all sound extremely unintuitive to me for what they are: communities with threads you up/downvote. And whatever Boost does. Especially since the microblogging integration means pressing “new post” doesn’t do what you think it does. And trying to pluralize Reduce ends up sounding incredibly awkward since it’s a verb and not a noun. What do you call downvotes? Reductions? Reduces?
So, if the community is already present (someone has subscribed already) on your kbin instance, when you click magazines it will be there and typing part of the name will filter the list and make it show.
If the community is not yet on your instance, you click the search button at the top of the kbin screen and in that search box type the whole community@instance.tld and it should find it and auto subscribe you to it. From then on it should be in the list above.
I agree this was less than intuitive and when I first setup my instance I really did wonder why I couldn’t find anything to subscribe to.
In terms of terminology. I think it’s because kbin is trying to place itself as a halfway house between the threadiverse and microblogging. There’s going to be a learning curve and things are constantly changing.
I’m still not seeing it in neither search box. Strange. There also seems to be federation issues with some instances still. I only noticed it because PoppinKREAM migrated to Lemmy (sh.itjust.works instance) but I can’t see any of their comments, posts or user profile on Kbin.social and it’s been a week.
I think the way people interact with microblogs versus comments and posts on a link aggregator are fundamentally different enough that I’m not sure trying to unite them under the same terminology is a great idea. Boost acting like a retweet for the people who follow you is not a bad idea though if that’s how it works, just name it something other than boost so people understand it’s purpose.
And calling single-image memes in a shitpost sub “Articles” in a “Magazine” will never not be bizarre to me.
What were you looking for, I’ll look on mine. The search I am talking about (if not in magazine list) is the magnifying glass at the top right in the area with your user name.
In this case I was looking for the instance feddit.nu since I was trying to sync up subscriptions on the accounts I have. Try fedditnu@feddit.nu. Previously I tried plugins@sh.itjust.works and it still doesn’t show up no matter what I search for in the top-right magnifying glass next to the username but it has finally appeared in the magazine list now.
Worked fine. First line of the returned info was “Senaste nytt om Lemmy-instansen Feddit.nu!”
https://kbin.life/m/fedditnu@feddit.nu nothing there yet. In theory if you liked something over there it would arrive there though.
Very very strange. What did you put in the search bar? Exactly “fedditnu@feddit.nu”? And can you see the user PoppinKREAM@sh.itjust.works?
Yes, exactly that. And posts have already started appearing in that magazine.
Also yes, I see that user. I think it was already cached because I see some comments from them show up too.