Please don’t take what I’m about to say as individual call-out, but your comment really will go to “reasons software developers should not listen to the users (unless they are paying for the privilege)” file.
You have a developer who started the project by themselves, got reasonably popular, does more than what Lemmy is doing and when they need help to be able to keep going, the reaction from the people is “don’t bother, just move on to this other fork”.
I know this is not your intention, but I can’t stop picturing a bunch of locusts flying to the next crop.
I’m not offended. @snownyte@lemmy.world is, from I understand, basically asking the community to help out the main dev of kbin. From what I’ve seen, that main dev doesn’t want to relinquish control of the main instance or allow others to come on. Nor have they shown willingness for similar actions in the code-base.
That’s a completely valid stance. It’s his project, his baby, his time and nobody should be able to force him to take any other action. However, it does come with the consequences observed: bots, unmerged pull requests, slow-moving code, and just general stagnation as the project moves as fast the main dev. As such, IMO there’s no problem recommending a fork that is community-driven (the C4 model is great!).
The project page is listing 5 names under contributors. He has received a grant from NLNet and seems to be promoting other sponsorship programs. Seems like he is not above asking for help. Quite the opposite, actually. He is basically begging for the “community” to support him financially, but seems that very few (kbin is getting less than $100/month on Patreon and ~$90/month on liberapay) are listening.
But he should have formed a team around him to carry the load
How do you “form a team” if there is no meaningful income? I don’t know about him, but I would feel pretty embarrassed to even ask other people to work on something if I am not offering something tangible in return. And to be quite honest, I wouldn’t trust anyone that accepted a pitch that could be summarized as “hey, would you like to come work on this project that is sucking the life out of me, gives a ton of headaches and forces me to deal with a bunch of entitled users?”
Yes sorry, I know there is more complexity than what I implied. I think it came from a position of frustration that Kbin has been DDoSing lemmy instances for months due to some bug causing junk activities to be sent in huge numbers, in addition to Kbin being the primary source of spam for lemmy. I’ll remove my comment as I can’t stand behind it.
Please don’t take what I’m about to say as individual call-out, but your comment really will go to “reasons software developers should not listen to the users (unless they are paying for the privilege)” file.
You have a developer who started the project by themselves, got reasonably popular, does more than what Lemmy is doing and when they need help to be able to keep going, the reaction from the people is “don’t bother, just move on to this other fork”.
I know this is not your intention, but I can’t stop picturing a bunch of locusts flying to the next crop.
I’m not offended. @snownyte@lemmy.world is, from I understand, basically asking the community to help out the main dev of kbin. From what I’ve seen, that main dev doesn’t want to relinquish control of the main instance or allow others to come on. Nor have they shown willingness for similar actions in the code-base.
That’s a completely valid stance. It’s his project, his baby, his time and nobody should be able to force him to take any other action. However, it does come with the consequences observed: bots, unmerged pull requests, slow-moving code, and just general stagnation as the project moves as fast the main dev. As such, IMO there’s no problem recommending a fork that is community-driven (the C4 model is great!).
Hopefully I’m not misunderstanding your comment.
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The project page is listing 5 names under contributors. He has received a grant from NLNet and seems to be promoting other sponsorship programs. Seems like he is not above asking for help. Quite the opposite, actually. He is basically begging for the “community” to support him financially, but seems that very few (kbin is getting less than $100/month on Patreon and ~$90/month on liberapay) are listening.
How do you “form a team” if there is no meaningful income? I don’t know about him, but I would feel pretty embarrassed to even ask other people to work on something if I am not offering something tangible in return. And to be quite honest, I wouldn’t trust anyone that accepted a pitch that could be summarized as “hey, would you like to come work on this project that is sucking the life out of me, gives a ton of headaches and forces me to deal with a bunch of entitled users?”
Yes sorry, I know there is more complexity than what I implied. I think it came from a position of frustration that Kbin has been DDoSing lemmy instances for months due to some bug causing junk activities to be sent in huge numbers, in addition to Kbin being the primary source of spam for lemmy. I’ll remove my comment as I can’t stand behind it.