• Cypher@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      23
      arrow-down
      33
      ·
      6 months ago

      Sure is compassionate of you to be concerned for the lives of men fighting to oppress their own people under a brutal dictatorship.

      • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        23
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        6 months ago

        Yes, it is compassionate to oppose a war. Even if you personally don’t feel one side is human, you must understand that both sides are going to suffer massive casualties right?

        And even if you don’t consider either side human, you know we spend billions on keeping South Korea militarized right? We’re still paying for that war in rotting infrastructure and schools even if it’s not our blood being spilled.

        Then again, if I had a nickle for every time I heard someone extol how much they care for the Ukrainian people also say that the war is a wonderful way to kill Russians without spilling a drop of American blood, I’d be able to afford a house. I suspect that you don’t care about either side’s people or your own beyond how their lives can be spent to defend western hegemony.

        • Cypher@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          17
          arrow-down
          27
          ·
          6 months ago

          Yes, it is compassionate to oppose a war.

          It is not compassionate to support a brutal dictatorship.

          Even if you personally don’t feel one side is human

          Nice strawman you started building, it’s a shame you stopped half way.

          And even if you don’t consider either side human

          Another half attempt at finishing your strawman?

          you know we spend billions

          You’re making a lot of assumptions here.

          keeping South Korea militarized right?

          If only they didn’t have a brutal dictatorship next door.

          We’re still paying

          Wrong.

          I suspect that you don’t care about either side’s people

          It only took you three paragraphs to complete your strawman! Congrats you did it.

          defend western hegemony.

          Cry about it tankie scum.

          • Zahille7@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            10
            arrow-down
            7
            ·
            6 months ago

            Opposing war doesn’t equate to supporting a dictator.

            You literally have no argument.

            • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              6 months ago

              The user they’re replying to is a tankie. Dictator support is baked into the ideology.

            • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              7
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              6 months ago

              Allowing aggression to go unchecked is the opposite of opposing war - it literally encourages more.

            • skulblaka@startrek.website
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              6 months ago

              Yes it does, when the war you’re opposing is one intended to bring consequences to a dictator. Unopposed dictators continue to dictate and empower other dictators. You don’t stop a bully by turning the other cheek. That just gets you punched in both sides of the face. You stop a bully by bringing them consequences to their actions. When there are no consequences, the actions continue.

              If you’d like to read more about this, please check into the entirety of human history.

              • Zahille7@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                6 months ago

                Literally nowhere in any of my responses have I alluded to me being an absolute pacifist. In fact, one of my replies implies that I’m not, I’m just against war (because, you know, it’s fucking atrocious for all involved), because you can absolutely oppose the act of war while still being down for some violence yourself.

            • Cypher@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              6 months ago

              My argument is they should have been shot.

              The weak little dictator isn’t going to get into a shooting match with the South over a couple of dead soldiers.

              If you think they will then you know nothing of the history.

              • Fedizen@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                7
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                6 months ago

                killing two soldiers doesn’t solve anything. They should invade north korea and fill it with a thousand McDonalds. Its the only way to restore freedom™