If you ever wanted to read about fake druids vs. environmental activists, now’s your chance.

  • Blackbeard@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    But we’re not talking about it. We’re not talking about political action, or technological solutions, or mitigation programs, or investments in adaptation, or natural resource management, or harm reduction, or food distribution, or drought management.

    No, we’re talking about a bunch of first world children who decided to paint a bunch of ten-thousand year old rocks for attention.

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      But it also stops us from talking about anything else. Part of this is not allowing other things to take over. Yes it would be even better if the discussion focussed on a productive way forward. It would be worse if we were discussing something else.

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        6 months ago

        And therein lies the problem with today’s generations. Instead of doing the hard work of getting involved in civic groups and local politics in order to mobilize voters and enact real, substantive change, we’re taking the short cut by spraying shit on the walls so no one can talk about anything else.

        You made my point very succinctly, so thanks for that.

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          Oh I see we are at the “this generation is lazy” level of discussion. Have a nice day.

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            6 months ago

            I’d say spraying colored powder on archeological sites and art galleries instead of getting involved in civic action to enact societal and economic change counts as lazy, yes.

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              6 months ago

              I mean how do you know that this “instead of” is factual and isn’t in reality a “additionally to”?

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                6 months ago

                Their website. It’s a string of performative, attention-seeking destruction, peppered with the rare “letter to party leaders” or “disrupted” public event.

                It’s clear as day.

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                  6 months ago

                  It’s possible to be a part of multiple organisations. Just because someone is part of JSO that doesn’t mean they can’t also be active in other groups. Highly motivated people like these tend to do that. It also makes sense to not lump these efforts under one name so that the public messaging doesn’t get muddied.

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                    6 months ago

                    The number of people described in those news articles that have been arrested, imprisoned, or spent months in court fighting charges, tells me they’re spending more time in the judicial system than participating with other civic groups. The two protestors who painted Stonehenge are currently behind bars, so I’d say that cuts into their grassroots organizing time, wouldn’t you?

                    It also makes sense to not lump these efforts under one name so that the public messaging doesn’t get muddied.

                    The public messaging is that people painted Stonehenge. I’d say the clarity of their messaging is exactly the topic currently up for debate.

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        6 months ago

        will soon wash away with the rain…"

        Just like any attention they may have grabbed due to their stunt.

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          For the record, I’m not saying I agree with their methods, but I don’t think it’s fair to them either that everyone is acting like they did irreparable harm to the monument.

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            6 months ago

            No one is saying they did or acting like they did. What we’re actually saying is that the methods were fucking ridiculous and counterproductive.