• lionkoy5555@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        how does censorship in federation work? for example, my account is in beehaw and I posted censored content on a less censored instance, will beehaw able to track it and block my account?

      • TheCookieButter@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 years ago

        I wrote 2 short paragraphs for the Beehaw entry and a week later was denied. By that point I was already on Lemmy.World.

        I really don’t know what else they wanted me to say to be honest. I’d be interested in seeing some accepted applications but seems excessive.

          • Beliriel@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 years ago

            Same for me. The only thing beehaw now has that interests me is the technology community, which seems fairly active. Other than that it died for me there. For what? Because they couldn’t deal with a few trolls? And they want their own walled garden for site applications?

        • SolDaMan@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          Bitter about what? Beehaw is literally running a purity test in order to let you sign up. You sound much more bitter for me telling the truth than i am.

      • JujuT@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        Exactly! Or a waitlist like lemmy.ml. There’s probably going to be some issues with so many people in this instance, but it’s better than an echo chamber.

    • brezhnervous@lemm.eeEnglish
      0·
      2 years ago

      However is been just “spinning” on yrying to sign up for over a week for me…so I ended up going with lemm.ee instead

  • TeaHands@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    2 years ago

    I joined world because it was the little one, with like 100 active users according to the stats on the signup page. Hmph.

    • kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      I joined lemmy.world on June 7th before it started to blow up. Crazy how much it has changed in 19 days.

      • TeaHands@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 years ago

        The idea was to pick a smaller one to spread the load around and stop any one instance (at the time it looked like probably Beehaw or .ml) getting so big it became a “default” and thus accidentally centralising things and defeating the whole purpose of being here.

        I guess a lot of people had the same idea at roughly the same time as me though lol, and now we’re stuck with some serious unforseen federation issues due to sheer size. Therewasanattempt.

    • blackconservative@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      2 years ago

      To bad they are still on 17.4 and not 18. Getting rid of web sockets really helped with the jumping around seen when viewing all

      • sacbuntchris@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        I thought content moving around and making me accidentally click stuff was supposed to be a “feature.” I guess that’s good news that it’s a bug.

    • jennwiththesea@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 years ago

      Except, apparently, we are the void. Probably why most people on this instance haven’t noticed a problem.

        • jennwiththesea@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          No, of course not, but I’m willing to be patient. This place grew very fast, and Lemmy itself was a tiny place before all of this. I remember the old days of reddit, too, and how sketch everything was. I hope it doesn’t take very long for basic issues like this to get fixed by the people who know how to do that (which definitely is not me), and I’m okay with mostly chatting amongst ourselves for a bit. (TBF though, I do get responses back from people on other instances, so my messages appear to be getting through eventually.) I’m excited for this thing to work, and feel impatient myself at times, but there is a whole heck of a lot of work that will need to be done to make this place fully functional. This is just one of many issues, and I am here for the ride!

    • jballs@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      51·
      2 years ago

      Are they? I see tons of Lemmy.world posts (including this one) using my sh.itjust.works account.

    • Solo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      01·
      2 years ago

      They’re not updating til 0.18.1 comes. The lemmy devs got rid of captcha in 0.18 and lemmy.world devs asked if they could add it back in 0.18.1 and they agreed so once that happens it will update. Said there would be too many bots without captcha.

  • SolDaMan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    2 years ago

    Hello All, First time poster here. I would just like to say that i tried signing up for beehaw.org but they have some kind of purity test that reminds me of Reddit. Don’t ever sign up for beehaw, that is going to be one hell of a drama filled instance.

  • SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.netEnglish
    15·
    2 years ago

    That’s great and imma let you finish but remember that decentralization is strength on the fediverse. Join or create other instances, join or create communities on other instances, thats our strength.

    On the fediverse, instances come and go. I’ve seen big instances go down either permanently or temporarily, and ive also seen big communities decide they’re turning off federation. The only way to be safe from that is to decentralize, so if something happens there’s still something worth doing on the fediverse.

    Besides that though, congratulations lemmy.world, I love to see the thrediverse Renaissance we’re in, and nothing but love for the folks running this instance and the folks participating on it.

  • zeppo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    21·
    2 years ago

    Thwe number #1 uswer of Lemm Worlkd is horses who are forcesd to horse by peple who rider horses in HoirseWOrld.,HELOM

  • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.mlEnglish
    61·
    2 years ago

    Good time to appreciate the lack of dominant centrality here compared to mastodon.

    Mastodon’s flagship instance run by the BDFL, mastodon.social, has ~10 times the monthly active users of the next biggest instance.

    Here, there isn’t really a flagship instance, as the devs don’t want their instance to be anything more than the one they happen to run, and it’s not the biggest, and the biggest is independent of the lemmy dev team and isn’t even that much bigger than the others.

    • Solo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      It does appear that lemmy.world is heading in the same direction of mastodon.social though.

    • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      That might also be a response to what users were asking for. Signing up for a server confused the shit out of everyone. It was to the point where Mastodon’s confusing onboarding process was frequently being covered by major media outlet across the globe.

      Instead of continuing to iterate on sever selection experience, they just started to say “fuck it” and started dumping everyone into .social.

      • DoctorTYVM@lemmy.worldEnglish
        22·
        2 years ago

        Which is the only way they’re ever going to work. It’s a major barrier to sign ups. If the fediverse is actually going to take off one of the Lemmy sites will have to become the dominant one

        • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
          4·
          2 years ago

          If the tools for discovering and subscribing to communities could be improved so it becomes dead easy to subscribe to communities on any instance from any instance, that might not need to happen.

          Right now the process of having to search for each community and subscribe is too clunky. And if someone posts a link to another community it often comes up in a format that takes you to the other instance, where you have no account so can’t subscribe. We need a way to share links to other communities that incorporates an easy “subscribe” button that talks to your own instance.

          It would be nice to have some index or search result page that lists communities on all instances, with a subscribe button next to each.

          If these things can be smoothed out, it won’t matter too much which instance you have your account on, so that will be less of an obstacle to new users.

          • soupspoon@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            2 years ago

            Lemmyverse.net does that really well, I think. At the top you can click the house icon and put in your instance, then whatever community you search for or find by scrolling through the list, you can just click on and subscribe

            • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
              2·
              2 years ago

              Yes, that is good, though there seems to be a bug in version 0.18 which means that when you click through the Subscribe button doesn’t show up (just the word “Subscribe” where it should be), so you end up having to search for the community anyway to subscribe. Once that bug is fixed though it will be nice and convenient.

  • egeres@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    2 years ago

    It’s awesome to see the growth, but as a small question, why don’t all the instances upgrade to version 0.18? Maybe that version isn’t stable enough?

    • Zetaphor@zemmy.ccEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      To clarify the vague “checks and balances” statement that you were given, it was the captcha feature. It will be added back in 0.18.1

    • kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      2 years ago

      0.18 removed checks and balances to limit bot signups. lemmy.world won’t upgrade until this is in place.

      • orclev@lemmy.worldEnglish
        0·
        2 years ago

        Yep, so now I need to put up with Jerboa whining at me every time I log in. Just the latest in what’s likely to be a long line of teething problems. It’s really unfortunate that the same guy is one of the primary devs of both the Lemmy server and the android client, as it allows him to use one to put pressure on the other. He could E.G. make it so Jerboa refuses to connect to any instance that refuses to update rather than just displaying an annoying dialog like it currently does.

  • Negative_Pair_5694@kbin.social
    121·
    2 years ago

    Also lemmy.world is extremely slow in pushing out messages to other instances, if at all. So leading the pack is not necessarily the best thing until you figure out scaling.

    • UrbenLegend@lemmy.ml
      6·
      2 years ago

      Yeah, I’ve been missing a ton of comment replies from lemmy.world and it’s frustrating. I am wondering if it’s because they’re still on 0.17.4 instead of 0.18.

      • NebLem@lemmy.world
        31·
        2 years ago

        Yeah I think that’s the main issue. Hopefully 18.1 can be released soon so they can upgrade too.

      • RQG@lemmy.world
        01·
        2 years ago

        No I think that is just you telling lemmy.world the message which sometimes can get stuck. Only after the message was sent will other instances sync with lemmy.world if they are federated.

        • Pixelologist@lemmy.world
          1·
          2 years ago

          Thanks for the link, unfortunately this is still affecting me. I’m gonna make an account on another instance for the time being

    • terribleplan@lemmy.nrd.liEnglish
      7·
      2 years ago

      Yeah, they should really consider not accepting new users until that is figured out, honestly. There are plenty of servers out there that people can join at this point. Too much centralization in a decentralized system for my liking regardless of instance scaling.

    • Solo@lemmy.world
      01·
      2 years ago

      The server has already been upgraded 3 times. I’m sure they’ll upgrade again if they’re seeing issues. They might not know if it’s an external issue.

    • Rogue_General@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      What counts as an active user? Voting? Commenting? Posting?

      Submitting a comment or post. AFAIK upvoting/downvoting doesn’t count, at least for Lemmy’s numbers.

      Kbin is looser with the definition, I think they even count accounts that simply vote among active users.