If I had to choose between a tracked, ad-filled experience and a slower, protected experience, I would go back to 1990s style Internet in a second.
Hahaha, the wild west!
Slower? I think browsers are all pretty much on par these days.
The killer feature Firefox needs to implement is profile switching.
Do containers not fit that bill for you?
You may know this, but Firefox does support multiple profiles. I regularly open it with
firefox -p "PROFILENAME"depending on whether I’m working or not. you can go to about:profiles to manage the different profiles.
Showing people that they can avoid ads by switching from chromium might make more people use adblockers.
I get flabbergasted whenever I talk to someone and realize they’re unaware that such things exist. I hope all (according to the google store entry for ublock origin) 10,000,000 of the ublock origin users switches from chromium based browsers to, say, firefox…
Feels like chromium is the new internet explorer…
To me it looks like a tech savy kind of hurdle, once people learn about it and start thinkering they start to use it also.
Better for us when people start caring for what they tolerate from corps.
Brave and chromium are still safe right ?
Brave has never been a super safe browser, they’ve done some shady things. If you need Chrome just use Chromium with some settings and plugins.
I’ve never seen someone who actually genuinely needed Chrome though.
No, Chromium will not be fine. Apparently Google have already pushed the code for their “integrity API” with Chromium on git.
https://github.com/chromium/chromium/commit/6f47a22906b2899412e79a2727355efa9cc8f5bd
https://www.resetera.com/threads/google-pushes-web-integrity-enforcement-code-into-chromium.746506/
https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/15bxx7p/google_merges_web_integrity_api_drm_for_the_web/
If you HAVE to use a blink browser, try Vivaldi. Brave is not the “privacy alternative” people seem to think it is.
I don’t know, but who cares? What does anyone have against Firefox? It’s fast, has a massive extensions library, open source, secure, private … there’s literally no reason whatsoever not to use it.
Different choices? Bad UI? People like me that despise Mozilla? Fuck them.
By all means, continue being part of the problem.
Blink has quite a few security benefits over Gecko, and while Firefox is plenty fast, Chromium is faster. I’m very much a Firefox gal, but there are plenty of reasons to use Chromium.
I have for a long time been on Firefox. It’s stable and works great.
Long time Firefox user over here too (2016) 🤟
The moment Firefox gets native vertical tabs with drag and drop grouping, I’m making the switch. But, as it stands, the vertical tabs in Edge are irreplaceable and not a single of the “workarounds” to make them possible in Firefox feel good at all.
I need drag and drop tab grouping and vertical tabs. That’s it.
Edge also just introduced workspaces which feels like something I’m going to love once I get the time to mess with them.
I want to leave Edge because I want to be done with Chromium in general, but Firefox feels too behind the times for me.
Sounds like what you need is Floorp, it’s a Firefox fork with all of this built in.
Why does it need to be native? There are numerous extensions that do this. That’s half the point of Firefox, it’s so extensible.
As I said in my original comment, none of those workarounds feel good. They show their seams constantly. I’ve tried a handful of extensions and not one feels as good as or is as feature complete as what’s native in Edge.
I have no idea what you’re talking about, I use a dozen different extensions, including a tab group manager, and it works great.
That’s totally fair, too. Not everyone gets bothered by the same things.
The last set up I used was this one and what made me give up is that it is so easy to accidentally close it. I had to look through my Firefox history to find that and when I closed the history sidebar, my tab bar was gone. It’s just a press of F1 to get it open, but why can’t I just make it persistent? Why does it have to share the same space as so many other features in Firefox? I don’t care if history wants to occupy the same space for the moment I need it, but when I’m done, go back to showing my tabs.
I’ve just recently switched because Chrome yet again stuffed up all my task bar shortcuts (whatsapp, keep, calenders etc) so they all just loaded as tabs.
Firefox doesn’t even have the ability to create task bar icons so for a long time I never bothered with it.
Found this extension which mostly gives that functionality. Not perfect as I have to share the URL links to the main instance to view them in a separate tab, but it’s ok. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pwas-for-firefox/
Thanks, did not know this was a thing, Looks interesting!
In the old days I used Firefox exclusively, until my work started only supporting chrome so I kinda went with it and switched. Out of habit I continued until a couple of years ago, that I went full Firefox again and I remembered why I loved it.
First time? :)
First time? :)
I wish, it keeps happening on everything from politics to electronics to IRL.
Be pretty cool if something like thos wasn’t 1/5 posts.
A few years back when Firefox went through the whole “Quantum” update, I jumped and never looked back. It’s just better in every way, in my opinion.
Just made the switch for my personal computers. All the extensions that I used are there except a few for work.
Google and every other corporation that wants to be your Daddy or your slave master can go fuck off and die. Personally I have been done for a while now, when Google shit all over the world by buying YouTube then making everyone sign in to Google plus to use, it was it for me, I have never actually signed in to YouTube since, and have tried to avoid giving Google any traffic to this day.
I think we don’t have a choice anymore but to start making a new society built from scratch for the people. We can start by using the vast amount of tools and resources built by corporations to enslave us against the same corporations doing the enslaving.
I don’t know if the human population can actually collectively do what’s necessary to save themselves or more then likely their children from a life of permanent servitude these corporations want.
But why not give it a try, it’s better then realizing you were a feckless idiot that did absolutely nothing while you’re waiting for a corporation to cut off your life support because you’re no longer profitable.
Politicians will allow corporations to enslave everyone but that magical 1%, they’re not vary bright, they don’t study history, all they study is fleecing the public, when the shit finally hits the fan the leaders these politicians make will hang them first.
And if some corporation don’t like what I’m saying, come at me bitch, I’ve got curable cancer, I’ve been told I got ten years left, so have fun then die (I’m on a Tennessee Republican Death Panel right now.) So lets see how much “fun” I can make for corporations in ten years.
I’m with you brother. Sorry to hear about that last section of your comment, but here’s to making the most of the next ten years 🥂
Great!
Awesome!
We can all join together along class lines and start to change things we have in common in the local govt.
What’s the advantage for google of doing this move? People “savy” enough to install an adblock (or even know that it exists) is most likely to switch to a competitor that allows for adblocking
Majority will keep using, for a while, until years later more see what has happened and move.
Mean while profits on marketing go up.
It won’t be a change no one notices though. Even non-savvy people who use ad-blockers are obviously going to notice that the internet suddenly became a significantly terrible experience.
Mhm, I see that point, although I find it concerning given that the quality of the UX platforms like youtube has kept a consistent decline over the past decade. It feels like google keeps amassing more and more reasons for people to enable adblockers but I also understand youtube needs to be a profitable business and at some point you need to show ads
True, these are the challenges of freeware, ads are required unless you pay or become a pirate.
Youtubers/social media now mostly have promotions within videos, so we went back to how cable functions.
Thoughts on Social media/Rumble/twitter and other video platforms will evolve over time?
I think Alphabet (Google) will keep doing things that make people leave there other platforms, youtube will take a while so changes will be more gradual.
As a small note, in an unexpected turn of events, that “sponsor block” extension popped up also blocking promotions, I find it incredibly amazing that blocking ads can even go that further
I can’t put my finger on it, but somehow I feel like youtube is irreplaceable, I don’t say this out of some internet patriotism, I just think the initial momentum of inertia really has to be massive to make it budge, while with fediverse-stuff you can gradually generate content and maybe some people will be attracted (?)
And twitter’s trajectory is to fucking weird and unpredictable right now that I just have no clue 🙃🙃🙃
Everything is replaceable. Nothing should live forever.
Awesome, I did not know blocking sponsers was a thing, wow.
Yes, you are right, youtube will be harder to leave for people, but Tiktok/twitter/etc. are grabbing the attention away from yt.
They all are trying to keep you on their platform as much as possible, for ads and data collection.
The new big thing may be bettet at that…?
Thanks for your input!
Oh yes, you’re right, tiktok is really eating youtube’s meal… and about the new big thing, hums, I’m not sure how it would look like 🤔
Thank you for your input as well!! 🙌🏻✨
TikTok is definitely hitting for certain demographics, but YouTube is still king in the long form department and I don’t see that changing unless they completely alienate their watchers and creators or someone comes along and offers significantly more money (to creators).
Google has gone to absolute shit. Unless you let them stick their hand down your pants and fondle you, you can’t even use their search engine with out getting hit with a captcha so they can use browser fingerprinting to track you. We were all hearded into the slaughter house and they are just now starting up the kill machines.
The way things are going with data collection and advertising, the EU is bound to put heavy restrictions on it, basically killing the market Google is built on. They are trying to find a middle ground between banning data collection and full on everything being collected you do online, and if ad blockers just happen to die in the crossfire, it’s not Google’s concern.
Spoiler: won’t happen. And I’m glad it won’t.
Not if you give up before even trying.
Things are not given, they have to be taken and fought for.
I’ve been on (and an advocate for) FF for almost 20 years. I don’t need anybody to tell me what’s wrong with it AND with Mozilla (a lot, actually, that’s why I jumped ship). And no, it’s not Google to blame for FF failure, only Mozilla. They need to go, and in my own small way I will do anything in my power to contribute to their disappearance. They’re not doing anything of value anyway, they’re just grabbing money from naive donors and Google (oh, the irony) and wasting it on useless crap.
Don’t even bother to reply. This is my last comment in this thread and I’m unwilling to debate.
Bye.
Why are you glad it won’t?
I sincerely want to see Mozilla burn.
