Wow, things have changed since I last posted in /c/fediverse. Here are the top five most active instances based on monthly active users:
Oh boy, I can’t wait until everyone defederares from us too. /s
This graph is actually wrong, lemmy.ml doesn’t have open sign ups, it just appears to because the Lemmy software doesn’t accurately distinguish between open and closed registrations, it only distinguishes between open registrations and application-based registrations. If registrations are closed it’ll look just like they are open, but we’ll just give an error message when you try to sign up which is incredibly deceiving.
I filed an issue to fix this discrepancy on their GitHub.
Another issue with this graph is that it shows lemmy.world as American but it’s actually hosted in Finland.
I chose ee over ml after what Mali started doing and that site could drop offline at any time.
The other .ml instances had a .ml free domain. Lemmy.ml paid for the domain so it’s in no danger of losing it.
Edit: further proof that it is a paid domain:
That’s great!
They should probably add a % measure to that to show active users as a % of total users to give a more balanced look at active instances
What is felt by users is the absolute number rather than the proportion.
Why not both?
Because when you open and later refresh Lemmy, the quantity of new posts you will see, which gives an idea of Lemmy’s activity, is proportional to the absolute number of active users, not the proportion of active users per instance.
By why not both, I meant why not display both the number of users and the proportion of the total userbase. This does not seem to be an answer to that question.
I thought you asked why wouldn’t both be felt by users. Otherwise, sure both can be displayed, the proportion gives an idea of the dynamic of a community.
Ah, I gotcha.
lemm.ee best instance 100%
100%
I think the beauty of Fediverse is that the majority of people can find pretty amazing instances for themselves. I could say the same of mine.
100%
Isn’t that the one that censors the word “bitch”?
I’m gonna go with no, since I’m reading it perfectly currently.
Hmmm, maybe that’s .ml then.
Are you thinking of beehaw.org?
Nawh, I’m the instance had a “lem” prefix of some sort.
It is good for the threadiverse
Significantly less posts and comments when compared to ML. So, a lurkers instance?
less posts doesn’t really matter. lol. Everything is federated.
Nah, .ml is as old as lemmy itself, while .ee is a really young instance.
That makes sense
A lot of main communities (especially regarding technology, news and politics) are located in .world and .ml, so users from all instances will participate there.
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goddammit
i joined dxcomplex because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn’t fold (and i liked the name);
then it folded so i joined .world because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn’t fold (and i liked the name);
then it got massive so i joined lemm.ee because it was the smallest instance i was confident wouldn’t fold (and i liked the name)i’m starting to wonder if i’m cursed
If you want an instance that almost definitely won’t go under, sdf.org has existed since
19861987 and has an instance at lemmy.sdf.orgactually i almost went for sdf instead of l.ee. the reason i didn’t was that it seems almost too good to be true? i see so many sites around that proclaim they’re hosted on sdf, the biggest text on their homepage says “create a free account” and yet there isn’t a donate button
i realise there’s one on their lemmy instance, and i might choose them if l.ee does fold, but i felt like i was taking advantage of something meant for others
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I get your point, but I think lemm.ee is still so much smaller than lemmy.world that it’s not much of a problem (at least not yet).
yeah you’re right, but i’m not (just) being funny when i said that - lemmy.world had only just started when i joined (10 days), still had the old (much nicer) icon and no banner, etc. it had 188 users / month, compared to .ml’s (at the time) 1.8k and lemm.ee’s (current, according to the above infographic) 3.7k…
Wtf go away
but what if going away makes it worse? .world’s downtime has only increased since i made my l.ee acct
Well then, please post where you’re gonna go next so we can avoid your trail.
well actually, i did recently make a backup acct. on lemmy.dbzer0.com…
Well that’s not great for me then
You are become death
Lol same, I joined FMHY first because I wanted in on a smaller instance. I now self host. Fool me once.
Now you’ll fold when you’re damn good and ready!
Exactly 😂
I need to switch from lemmy.one. we are still stuck with the context bug of18.3
What is that bug? My comment trees are a bit messed up so I might have it too
Cannot access directly a comment from the link
You might have to, it’s been a while
Nice! The only issue is the extremely small size limit of images, but still a great instance
I really wish they would increase the image size to at least 200 or 300kb to fit larger images. You can get around it by using external image hosting but you can’t do that for banners and profiles.
I switched from lemmy.world to the one I’m on right now. Runs smoothly, and there are like a dozen of us, lmao.
So if you’re looking for a small instance that just runs smoothly, come say hi.
Most of the times that i see this meme is always censured, they usually take out the part where the woman gets gropped. While i understeand why someone wouldnt whant to share something that contains sexuall harasment, i think its a little silly and very curious how its users self-censored themselvels with this meme, it its very unussual to find it like this in the wild.
In this version of the meme she’s actually from an alien culture where it’s considered rude not to kiss someone and squeeze their butt after accepting a medal. Their version of “bless you” after a sneeze.
I swear to god it’s in the show somewhere look it up.
Thermian argument best argument!
Which one? The new ones?
Considering how many startrek memes I see on lemmy, I’m surprised this was the original meme.
I don’t care what anyone says I will always read it as start rek
Good for them. Glad to see five different ones over 2200.
is there a way to transfer my account to another instance? lemmy.world for me is unreliable and slow :/
They’re quick when it comes to defederating lefties. Not so much with toxic right wingers.
In all seriousness though, some apps copy subbed communities. Having a backup lemmy is useful.
I need more data on that first point. Everyone’s defederation rationales and strategies have evolved over the last few months.
Exploding heads was slow. Hexbear was instantaneous.
Read the Hexbear defederation post if you want to see how subjective it actually was.
Don’t get me wrong, commies are badly misguided, but they can hold a good faith rational debate.
I think I’ll have to see how quickly they make a decision on other instances in the future.
The hexbear defederation did seem odd to me since the rationale was the admins there reminding their users to follow other instances rules?
Idk, I’m glad I can still see hexbear comments. I may not agree with them but at least they appear more literate than the exploding heads users.
No, but there are tools that can automatically copy over your subscribed communities.
I made one such tool!
https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim
I know there’s also a python script out there and a new Android app that has active syncing. I don’t have links handy to those on mobile.
You lose comment history and all that jazz too but it’s better than nothing. I’m not sure if devs plan to implement a way to do it but it’s one of the reasons I decided to roll my own instance. Nothing more frustrating than using someone else’s and losing access while they take days to get it back up.
We did it!
Wait that wasn’t the point.
People seem to only want their accounts on “general use” instances that are already pretty popular.
Which is… bizarre. There is no downside to having your account on a more niche instance (as long as it isn’t so niche that it gets turned off), and there are arguably disadvantages to having your account on a more popular instance.
The disadvantage of being on a small instance is that you could have an admin who is a fucking moron and ends up breaking stuff because they don’t know what they are doing.
Sauce: am admin. am fucking moron.
A slight advantage to big servers is the increase in anonymity on the backend. Given the server admins can do what ever that want. An admin on small server would no doubt be looking into who and where their individual users are. Big severs are more likely to become more population based. Doesn’t really matter though I suppose.
Yeah no exact opposite for me: Big server means lots of user data making abuse of it more appealing and impactful. While an admin of a small instance having some fun digging through user internals would really do no harm (I don’t believe that’s a particularly typical hobby of small instance admins though xD ).
I wouldn’t say no doubt. Some certainly would do that, others could have more integrity.
One big thing that hasn’t changed from reddit is that lemmy instances are still based on an autocratic power structure. Whether or not your content gets seen or you get to see other content depends on the relationships between those leaders. That means choosing your leadership is of utmost importance, and I eventually settled on lemm.ee because it was the first instance I came across that both a) seemed like it had actual adults running the show, and b) was large enough for that leadership have already faced some challenges and have an established track record.
That’s the downside to a niche instance.
That’s the core of every problem that’s occurred to every massive human social structure we’ve ever created in history.
We create systems, the systems become powerful, a small group of autocratic people naturally gravitate towards wanting to lead, the system is taken over by this small group, the system is corrupted, the system fails, the system ends … then we start over again.
It keeps happening over and over again and the common denominator is human greed (either in the need to gain money and wealth … or in the need to just want to gain power over everyone)
The only systems that last are the ones where everyone has an equal stake and a shared power structure. But it’s a balancing game that constantly has to be monitored … because once we stop being vigilant, some greedy idiots will naturally start taking over.
A good 40% of users are spread out on servers with less then 5% of the overall user base, but that is still a good 60% in the top 5 instances, considering how laggy lemmy.ml and lemmy.world are, I am surprised anyone stays on them.
Haven’t noticed any issues, aside from the occasional down time on world.
it’s not that bizarre; people want easy and people don’t seem to really understand how it works so they’d rather go where the most people are or the one that is “trending”.
Smaller instances take longer to load content from bigger instances.
I have a kbin account and a lemmy account, but I find myself more active on lemmy because it’s faster to load new content.
hate to say it, but looks better too
People want to be where people are. My guess is we’ll end up with a bunch of super instances eventually.
People want to be where people are.
This logic only applies in centralized platforms. In the case of the Fediverse, people are everywhere and anywhere.
But here on lemmy itself we can see people gathering in just a few instances
Not everything happens for a logical reason. It’s human nature to get together in tribes, and the majority of people are okay with just following the pack.
I just hope that eventually more people figure out that there is no significant advantage in being in the largest instances, and that it can be actually harmful (too many resources, potential drama because too much power is given to the admins, etc)
It’s because instances are defederating from each other.
I’ve found that sometimes old posts don’t propagate to newer servers. So if you want to participate in a old thread, you need another account.
It’s not easy to see the list of all communities in an instance you don’t have an account. If I login and federate as user@example.com, I can see all the local communities inside example.com, but not others like lemmy.world. I don’t mean individual posts or an individual community, I mean list of all instance communities. I think this is one of high priority issues to be patched.
Some apps have that. As for the webui just go to the instances’ site?
Sure you can visit the target instance’s website, but then you have to manually copy and paste
!community@target.instance.I recommend browser plugins
Aw man are we gonna have to move?
If they ever defederate from piracy communities, yeah, but I don’t think so, admin has a very anti defederate policy, so I see this scenario very hard to occur.
Oh, I don’t really care about piracy communities. I meant on the basis of it getting big.
