I’m sorry guys, I actually watch the YouTube Shorts so Google pushing them into more people is my fault. I just don’t care to download Tik Tok and have yet another app. 😭
With the sketchiness about TikTok, I much prefer YouTube for shorts.
Sure they’re both evil under the hood. But TikTok scares me more. So I actually appreciate Google digging their claws into this one a little bit.
I just don’t get the point. Why not watch full length videos where you can have context and actually learn something? Shorts can’t really provide context so are just funny moments or something that aren’t really that interesting, just a waste of time.
I honestly only watch them when I’m super bored or high in bed when I want quick laughs. But honestly, the same question can be asked of people who scroll on Facebook, lemmy, or Reddit hours on end
I would agree with Facebook (and I’ll admit I’m biased), but Lemmy/Reddit are about conversations, and context/information are important. Shorts/tiktok are about quick things that catch your eye and you forget about seconds later, and they can’t inform you on much, if anything.
Listen, I’m a busy guy with a life. I don’t have 20 minutes to dedicate to a video. I’d rather watch a few shorts… a quick
5103045 minute session is all I’m after…Good shorts give you everything you need to see in a short period of time. I’ve seen plenty of them which is why I give it a chance.
It’s the not good Shorts that Youtube keeps showing me that I absolutely hate. The 20 view “alpha male” bullshit Shorts that I’ve never shown interest in yet Youtube insists I must love.
A lot of “full length” videos are padded for monetisation purposes. I hate watching some tubers going on and on before actually getting into the main topic.
I don’t think the shorts themselves are a problem, but I’ve never searched for a short
I think they’re not, but I question the people who watch them, honestly.
I just… isn’t just letting a single long video play the same thing? Because the way I see it when people doomscroll shorts, they’re not actively watching the content either. And whether you ignore video X or shorts A, B, C and D doesn’t make a difference, no? It’s like leaving the TV on, it’s just background noise to turn the brain off to.
Oh yeah I was only posting dumb comments for content for lemmy. The issue is definitely because YouTube is pushing them front and center on the home screen of the app.
I’ve never actually searched for shorts either; I only ever watch my shorts via clicking on the “Shorts” link at the bottom of the app.
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And there’s not only 1, but 2 rows of them.
I have several Tampermonkey scripts to keep Youtube useable:
Additionally uBlock, and a plugin to alter the number of results per row (so I don’t wind up with gigantic tiles/icons on a large monitor).
It’s a complete disaster without these. :/
I am saving this for later, there are also some browser extensions that do this job doesn’t it?
Yep, I also have one to automaticlly stop the annoying autoplay on channel pages.
YouTube is that desperate to be TikTok. Why?
Because it seems to be working for TikTok. People’s attention spans are getting shorter and these short videos, each a couple of seconds long, are a money printer, as Google can put even more ads in between even less content.
I got the original video at the top…
They need filters for sure, I don’t mind shorts but they are treated exactly the same as any other video on the platform.
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Basically yeah. 10 second or so vertical video to compete with TikTok and Instagram Reels, because no one has an attention span longer than 10 seconds anymore
I find it’s unfair to associate attention span with the usefulness of Shorts. There are jokes and joke formats that don’t work when part of a longer video. The primary value of Shorts is in communicating something relatively unimportant, but it’s okay to consume media purely for enjoyment.
What pisses me off is that they just assume that everyone who wants to watch videos also wants to watch shorts. There’s no native way to block or filter them completely. That’s also an aspect where YT got so much worse. Like you can’t use quotation marks to explicitly search terms anymore. It just suggests you random garbage that is irrelevant to what you want, which is often burried far below all the other garbage search results. I don’t even know why you’d remove a feature like that. It’s such an unnecessary dumbing down, because people unaware won’t use it anyway, as it is completely invisible to them. YT just goes further down the shitter with each year.
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It is annoying that the youtube algorithm give higher priority to longer videos, above 10 min or so. Which means that quite a few content creators will stretch out something that would take 3 min to explain into a 10+ min video.
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Plus there’s more shorts that are camouflaged as normal videos:
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Setup uBlock to get rid of all shorts.
Use the Revanced app on android and you can remove these
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Revamped supports Chromecast as well. Does Newpipe not?
Newpipe is a website scrapper. It is fully open source as well. It does not have Chromecast support.
Revanced is a patcher for the official YouTube app, which is why it has chromecast support
Then why does anyone use Newpipe?
Because some people like using FOSS apps. And don’t want all the trackers from the YouTube app.
Look into smarttubenext for Chromecast then. It takes like 30 seconds to install. It’s similar to new pipe. I believe it can even link with new pipe to download videos for offline use.
It’s the entire reason I bought a Chromecast over a Roku or fire TV.
Is there anything like this for android?
That is for android
Well now I am confused, this is what it says for disadvantages:
❌ Disadvantages: no support for phones and tablets, no comments stability, voice search and casting support might be worse than in the official apps, depending on your device; give it a try!
Here’s what it says on the compatibility section of the github readme.
SmartTube requires Android 4.3 or above. It does not work on non-Android devices (incl. LG or Samsung TVs). On unsupported TVs, you can use a TV stick or TV box. Though this app technically runs on smartphones and tablets, it is not optimized for such and offers no official support!
It has been successfully tested on TVs, TV boxes and TV sticks that are based on Android, including:
Android TVs & Google TVs (e.g. Philips, Sony) Chromecast with Google TV & TVs with Chromecast built-in Amazon FireTV stick (all generations) NVIDIA Shield TV boxes running Android (many cheap chinese no-name boxes) Xiaomi Mi BoxLooks like it isn’t officially supported on android phones. However, the way it’s built makes it automatically work on many android smartphones without the devs specifically trying to support it on phones.
If you say “Not interested” on all the videos in the group, they will go away (for a while). God help you if you miss the triple-dots and tap the thumbnail though.
I just use third party apps
That’s why you are supposed to use Newpipe. (Preferrably the version with Sponsorblock and Return Youtube Dislikes)
I don’t get the shorts. It may be because I refuse to watch them, I don’t know
Google should split shorts into a separate app and then let it die like everything else.
