I will probably leave eventually. I won’t go anywhere else. I’m pairing down my social media. More specifically the ones that i use too much. I want to keep it for a few more months and see not some kind “shiny new toy” thing.
But who, exactly, is supposed to create this “niche content” for them? I think this is something we underestimate—large swaths of people see themselves as consumers of quality content. It is not for them to bring in comments or interesting finds to the communities. This I think is what makes the internet ripe for centralization. You can’t be a non-paying consumer and choose your menu. You can pay with your behavior datapoints and get fads packaged to you, or you can help create an ecosystem where you don’t have to be spied on every click and tap of the day. Choose your path and make peace with it. The worst would be to help create content for a community and be spied while at it.
That niche content is built up over years of the right person finding the right thing, which all in all is pretty rare, because only a percentage of thoses people will actually post and make their knowledge known. It’s institutional knowledge, and institutions arent built in a day.
It will happen. It will be slow. It’s how it works everywhere. The community needs to prove itself after all!
that’s OK with me 👌
People are leaving Lemmy for Reddit?
Hells no. 13 years of Reddit and I’m done with the place. Even if Lemmy burned down in flames I’d still not go back to the poison place called Reddit
Isn’t Lemmy itself niche?
Nah. I think I’ll stay.
I, a manifest Redditor, have sat down, and shall refuse to go back to the empire. I have satted, and shall remain seated.
For all those returning to the grave where the Snoo once stood, good luck. I hear the bots are awful this time of year.
Both suck.
Reddit has the base and the niche communities and the activity, but is scummy for its own reasons.
Lemmy has the structure/organization but none of the niche interest activity that kept me on Reddit for so long. Plus it’s got all the weird pro china shit and an even worse problem with the hive mind bullshit than Reddit.
With the death of third party apps, I would say that my time that was formerly spent on Reddit is now spent 10% still on Reddit, 15-20% on Lemmy, and the rest just isn’t spent on that sort of thing anymore.
I’ve been reading more, maybe a 2-5% increase on Facebook of all places, going to the source for news (Axios, Washington Post mostly), gaming with the computer time, maybe a 15% increase on YouTube time…started streaming more shows and stuff, and spent more time outside, even in the sweltering summer heat.
So basically for me, Lemmy has turned out to not be a reddit replacement, and instead that time has just been split up many different ways.
I do miss Reddit, and wish that Lemmy had indeed been a workable alternative, but it’s just not. I won’t go back to Reddit because I accessed it 95% on a mobile 3rd party app…but just because I won’t go back doesn’t mean that Lemmy is just as good.
As time goes on, I’m starting to realize that the time I still spend here is mostly because I want it to be better and I’m trying to be active long enough to see that change happen…but the longer I just kill time here waiting for it, the more I see shit I don’t like.
I would expect that while I’ll still keep my account open, I’ll probably be done with Lemmy by the end of the year.
This is basically me, but reverse the lemmy and reddit percentages. I’m halfway through the Vampire: The Masquerade Clan Novel series 🤘
Wait, where did you get those?
I just see too much of the same posts and I’m not sure if it’s a user issue or not sometimes i reopen the front page after 3 days and 25% of the posts I’ve already seen plus a lot of posts are about reddit anyway :(
6/10
Thing is that is a fixable problem. It’s technologically very possible to set up a simple algorithm to try to get like 3-5 posts max from one community, have them be as recent as possible, and return the most popular ones.
Reddit has a problem that is rooted much more deeply; their CEO.
I think this is unironically a big problem with Lemmy. The sorting is way, way, way too fixed and inflexible. You can sort by active which ends up being the same few communities. Hot is too much like it’s kinda new. Top Day is usually what I use since I want to see the most popular posts first each day, but then more niche content is just hidden.
There is no best sorting order, because the best sorting order would be a combination of multiple sorting orders. This is one thing reddit really excels at with their sorting orders, they seem to have like a “combined” approach, like an intelligently-designed system of sorting algorithms to show people good, active content while not hiding important things.
On a community/platform like Lemmy where it’s less popular and less active, having proper sorting is even more important.
Like you said though, this is entirely fixable, and something Lemmy definitely can improve. The question is, will they improve it? I certainly hope so.
I feel like this is where 3rd party clients can really shine. Offer a good default algorithmic sort, and let users configure it themselves as much as they please – it’s their feed after all.
I’d do it myself if I didn’t have enough work on my plate already lol.
That’s true but this is the kind of thing where it’s important enough that it shouldn’t require a third party client, it should just work on the main website itself.
I mean we can build niche comtent, just going to take a lot of time. For now lemmy is refreshing because most are here toconverse on topics and not 100s of trolls like
I mean we can build niche comtent, just going to take a lot of time.
And in the mean time?
Also “can” doesn’t mean “will”. And most, myself included, aren’t going to be willing to just…hang around…for months or years or however long that takes to happen. And every time that happens, the timeline gets pushed to the right.
At some point it just won’t happen.
For now lemmy is refreshing because most are here toconverse on topics and not 100s of trolls like
Hah! Good one.
In my experience so far here, there’s significantly better odds of running into trolls on Lemmy than Reddit.
Sure, in (some unspecified amount of) time, Lemmy might get more and varied and more populous communities, and it might see an overall improvement in the broad makeup of the overall user base…but for now it’s less diverse, less busy, and less friendly than Reddit, and unfortunately, those deficiencies are self-perpetuating.
I commented that China’s state sponsored hacking probably contributed to their new processor looking surprisingly like competitors’. The responses… were disappointing. The China thing and stale content have been my only issues. Stale posts are a problem, but has meant that I’m done earlier and put my phone away sooner, which isn’t great for engagement, but makes me feel better.
I feel most of these issues are just due to how small the userbase is.
And that a sizable portion of that small user base are batshit extremists
With the exception of a few of the “grad” communities, Lemmy has just been a whole lot less toxic. I don’t deny occasionally slipping back into reddit for exactly two subs that don’t seem to have any chance of taking off in Lemmy. But Lemmy has really killed my reddit urge permanently. Every time I enter reddit, I see a message trolling or attacking me or whatever.
Yeah I really miss my niche porn
Honestly same. But I like all the SFW stuff
I used to use Sync for Reddit. Now that you can use Sync for Lemmy, it’s easy for me.
Hopefully the next exodus, Lemmy will have a better way to boost visibility of niche communities in active/hot timelines. Reddit was good at doing this, not sure how they did it. Right now it’s really hard to grow small communties unless you explicitly keep checking on them. So it is a problem, but there is a solution that hopefully we’ll figure out soon. Also we have pretty mature phone apps now, but the desktop site is pretty lacking unless you use one of those alternative front ends.
Hear me out, a good portion of Reddit posts are reposts anyways so what if we did a one time import of Reddit community top posts of all time to seed communities so there’s a place people feel more encouraged to post to? I don’t like bot posts generally, but if it’s a one time thing I think I’d like it if the communities here had some extra seed content to browse so you wouldn’t reach the end so quickly like you do now.
There is at least one bot that does this, there are comments on the posts explaining how to request more subreddits to be added to the seed list
Me: I am the niche content now. Starts up 10 communities and actually posts to them.
Like, I need help, I can’t keep this pace of posting up forever… Please contribute!
We need a full-on reddit REMAKE.
Someone just steal the code for old reddit and host it (maybe on a .to lol) calling it Readit or something, then just have bots scrape and autopost everything from reddit /all until there are enough organic Readit users.
Run it on donations like wikipedia and throw moderation to the wind except for a skeleton crew to remove CP and Yall-Qaeda
It’s a bit disappointing that most of the communities for specific content are so inactive on here, but I still prefer it to the types of banal, waste-of-time, repetitive content and comments that plague reddit and have caused my eyes to roll in a tailspin.
Do I really have to choose one or the other, though?
I think there’s a sweet spot in terms of population lemmy hasn’t reached yet. Reddit has surpassed it long ago and is now shit due to too many people.
