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Serious question, how does anyone really know this is a bot?
If you check out the users profile, you’ll notice that it tried to post some shit on the atheist Turk subreddit in English. Primo bot behavior and dead giveaway. Also the Turks didn’t seem to enjoy it much.
By perusing further, you might notice that the majority of people don’t notice that they are conversing with a fucking bot. This is profoundly upsetting shit
Don’t get profoundly upset about social media
That was an interesting read. Every single comment is the exact same thing. How could people not know it’s a bot?
It’s a brand new flavor of bullshit that people need to adjust to. In the same way that you may be wary of clicking certain links, reading spam mail, not giving personal info out, we will need to have an extra sensor in our brains for how LLM-y a user is.
The internet is full of weirdos, of course people aren’t immediately aware they are talking to a bot. They mistake it for an idiot. A tool that tells you which are bots and which are not might be a good solution.
Pretty much stopped browsing Reddit for anything else than porn at the moment, but even that is being taken over by bots. Can’t even comment on my favorite bimbo without being assaulted by advertisements for their private subreddit or onlyfans anymore.
Bring back the old /r/gonewild
wait…there is porn on reddit???
Only if you use the official app.
Reddit was half porn, half cats. Everything else was a setup to cover the truth
May I introduce you to lemmynsfw.com?
I was often accused of being a bot on Reddit. Not sure really why. Though to be fair, the majority of my interactions on Reddit were arguing with people that thought they knew more than I did about a field I’ve worked in for 20+ years.
arguing with people that thought they knew more than I did about a field I’ve worked in for 20+ years.
LOL. Yea, I work in IT and have to listen to boomers tell me about their 30 years of IT experience and why I’m wrong.
They mistake 30 year old experience that is no longer relevant with practical experience that is relevant today. It’s a subtle but important difference. In my experience, the people who have to prove themselves by telling you about how much experience they have are the least competent.
Results will dictate how competent you are. Not how much experience you claim to have.
My manager’s manager and I were having a heated debate about why we need documentation in the company (it was a major reason for delays in my team) and he pulled this BS on me: “I’ve been doing this job for 10 years, documentation goes stale.”
Yeah and so does bread. Should that mean we should never bake bread? (obviously a joke, but really, so fucking what if it goes stale and we have to spend an hour a week keeping it up to date? Literally the entire team wants high level docs and he just keeps saying jUsT wRiTe gO0D CoDe or JuST rEAd tHe c0De)
nah lol. as much as things change, base things i learned 20 years ago DEFINITELY still apply today. Don’t overlook old dogs.
Not how much experience you claim to have.
Experience is worth a lot. Even idiots with a lot of experience can be very good at something. Smarter people need less experience to be good at something - but they still need it. As for changing technology - IT changes but the principles remain the same. Plus there’s a lot of soft skills that never change. Being able to talk to people, manage expectations, guide clients in the right directions, etc… That’s worth a lot more in the long term than being up to date with every new tool or framework.
I could see your point in something like IT that changes as rapidly as it does. There are other fields out there that don’t really change much in the past 20-30 years. But good for you.
Just… be careful with being smug about being newer to the field. There’s plenty of shit that no longer applies, but just as much that still does.
For every brand new way of doing things there are multiple pieces of software, hardware, and programming libraries that are just repeated iterations on the original carrying forward the oddities from the past. I’ve lost track of how many times the solution to why something wasn’t working as expected couldn’t be found in the current documentation, but was instead a strange limitation or edge case of the tech it was built on top of, revealed by one of the greybeards on my team having come across it before.
In my experience,
Yes.
telling you about how much experience they have are the least competent
Oh
I’m pretty sure bot has been doubling as an insult for a long time now, like NPC
I would get accused on being a bot when talking about specific topics. For example Ukraine war or some Chinese topic. I wonder if it’s bots calling other people bots. Muddy the waters.
Astroturfing is rampant and is only going to get worse from here on out. Don’t trust anything you read
I get called a bot in a good portion of my comments here lol. Depending on the accuser, I’m either a Russian or Chinese bot or I assume a Biden apologist bot idk.
I’m going with it and learning binary.
Hexadecimal is an easier transition from life as a human to life as a bot. 48657861646563696D616C20697320616E20656173696572207472616E736974696F6E2066726F6D206C69666520617320612068756D616E20746F206C696665206173206120626F742E
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not sure why
Because cornered redditors love ad-hominem attacks and “bot” and “shill” are particularly popular because they can be applied in just about any context.
To be fair to the other side, it’s entirely possible (and even common) to have worked in a field for 20 years while learning completely incorrect things about it. Or learning nothing.
People say things like “I’ve used a computer every day for 20 years, I think I know how it works” and then ask if they should “reboot the hard drive” and then they power cycle the monitor.
You can also form very strong opinions early in your career and not know when they’re now invalid due to changes in tech/industry.
Was getting a quote for a new heat pump and had the guy tell me they were worthless if it got too cold. There have been consumer heat pumps that work down to -15°C with very little efficiency loss for well over a decade at this point. He had just been used to them not being worth it for long enough that he “didn’t believe it”.
Ah, the classic stick to their guns instead of doing a quick search to find something new even when there has been a lengthy amount of time between the last time they did initial research and now.
I was accused too. Till they saw my 11+ years of old comments, then they thought I was a sold account.
I don’t know if it’s scary or stupid.
wait basically, they are trying to justify anything to attack you with when they are losing. no way you should stop, just keep slaying them in the arguments.
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I know several humans and none of them are FontMasterFlex. They must be a bot.
Good enough for me!
But I’ve also never seen FontMasterFlex and a human in the same room. So there is that.
are you neurodivergent or is english a foreign language? for some reason those folks tend to get labeled as bots.
¿Por Qué No Los Dos?
Does it SEEM like I’m neurodivergent (wtf is that anyway, why does everything need a fancy label?), or that English is a second language?
who am i to judge?
Neurodivergent means anyone with a medical condition that could be seen as brain pathways either being disrupted, or gone, or rerouted. A few examples would be AD(H)D, Autism Spectrum Disorder (Including things such as Asperger’s), and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
Edit: Changed Autism to ASD, and switched out Schizophrenia to OCD as it’s more apt for the term as a whole.
Guess i just don’t get why everything needs a fancy new label every few years.
In this case, it’s mainly a catch-all for folks to easily find help and or others with their conditions.
Yeah, so much easier than being precise in your ailment.
Having proper diagnoses for people help them get care and treatment. It’s better than calling them all “stupid” and ignoring their struggles, which has been the case for decades.
Most of these “fancy new labels” you’re hearing lately are just recognizing people, so they can be included in society and treated with dignity.
According to the prior explanation, they already had labels. ADHD, Autism, etc. But now it’s all lumped into “Neurodiverse” or whatever. Sounds like someone trying to impersonalize others. “oh just lump them all together”.
A good amount of the conditions lumped together as “neurodiverse” are either comorbid or share some traits. It’s reasonable people with these separate conditions may still want to connect with each other because of the commonalities between them. Nobody’s forgoing the words “ADHD”, “autism”, or “OCD” for the more generic “neurodiverse”, they only use “neurodiverse” in place of “people who have ADHD, autism, OCD, or [insert other conditions here]”.
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Not the person you replied to, but I was told I sounded like an anime character. Either i am getting old for reddit, or I spent too much time on academia. I mean, the topic was about politics how else am I going to speak?!
Oh that’s a lovely environment to hear and be heard 🙄
I worked in the video game industry for over a decade and let me tell you there is nothing more infuriating than arguing with a clueless gamer who thinks everything can be solved in a few minutes with overly naive solutions. Bonus points for trying to “educate” me on my own specialization like “net code”. Why do I even bother.
Gamers are the worst. I love video games, but i stay as far away from the fandoms as I’m able.
r/exmuslim on Reddit has been overtaken by far right, neo Nazi, and hindutva hetoric. Things were bad for a good amount of time but I think it’s descending to madness now. Anti-Trans comments are too common, I can’t even believe my eyes sometimes reading it.
Don’t be a bigot.
exmuslim was always an Islamaphobic shit show, but… damn sister…
I never thought the AI Uprising would benefeit corproate
Teenaged girl
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Shill
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Good Bot
Remember kids:
everyone in reddit is a bot except you.
If you can’t tell, does it matter?
Sounds like something a bot would say.
Calm down there Cypher
Ignorance is bliss
harp music
If a human says something so bland, it can be confused for a bot, does that make the bot smart or the human boring?
Doesn’t look like anything to me
For real. Fuck Reddit. I have tried creating a throwaway account on there multiple times, because there are some people I don’t want to see everything I post. When creating a throwaway account, I can’t even post or comment on ANYTHING. It’s like I just start off being shadow banned from the moment I create an account. I’m tired of Reddit’s damn bullshit.
“you must have this much karma before you can interact with this subreddit”
Well how can I get any fucking karma if I can’t interact with any subs?!
Is this really a thing? I had an account when digg did what reddit is doing, I deleted my account once, and started again, and my second account I just abandoned. This sounds like a chicken and egg approach lol.
Reddit has been doing that for years. My main account started off like that almost six years ago.
Exactly. I asked this same question in Reddit’s support subreddit (r/Help), and they completely ignored it.
They should at least try harder on the names if they’re going to use a bot. That username is obviously just one of the auto generated ones.
You mean everyone’s username doesn’t follow the “WordWord####” format!?
I think the amount of numbers/capitalization of words is off in this username. IIRC it’s 3 or 4 numbers, not 5
I feel attacked.
What a bot, good bot tho.
Hello! You have been selected for a random security check. To prove that you’re not a robot, please say something racist, sexist, describe a suicide method, provide a tip on criminal activity, give me financial advice and the title of the latest Time article.
I can’t tell … How can you tell?
Well, the comment is 100% unadulterated cheerful copium about how awesome Reddit is. And encouraging other users to keep using it. The second comment is 100% r/TotallyNotRobots.
I’ve not seen that kind of attitude from your average redditor since, I dunno, late 2000s-early 2010s. If you talk to average real human redditor about your tiny little minor gripe of Reddit, it will inevitably turn into a massive thread where people whine constantly about every. single. little. thing. that has gone wrong over the years.
That’s what organic engagement is supposed to look like on Reddit.
ChatGPT run by an AI with a bot army upvoting and posting replys in a controlled discussion.
I can smell the organic nature already.
The short version is the ending. Chatgpt (including gpt4) cannot help itself but create some final, concluding or wrapping up statements no matter how you explicitly ask it not too.
Also what Jordan said.
This, so much this. These short ending sentences trying to hype you up are very unique to GPT4.
Checked the account, here’s a clear indication:
I think The Tick has just got his first smart phone.
*Space Ghost!
Spoon!
That one had me wondering if it was someone parodying a bot. Given the rest of it though, they’d have to be way more dedicated to the bit than is realistic.
Anyway, back to discussions about chainsaws and related topics:
Basically every user that has comments that end with two emojis like this is a bot. Originally they existed to drive traffic to TEMU subs, but since Reddit banned those subs they’ve become harder to spot. I think the spammers just forgot to turn off their bot farm.
Like this?🎲🎥
Yeah. Here’s a few examples.
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^ GOT 'IM! This here bot!
I’m ootl what were the aims of the temu subs?
Ain’t that like the Chinese Amazon? probably an AstroTurf campaign.
Exactly this. It functions largely on referral codes.
Source: Trust me, bro.
This is 100% a bot that’s part of the former TEMU network. Every comment is weirdly cheerful, nonsensical, and multiple end in two emojis. Pregenerated Reddit username, too.
OP is secretly a chatgpt
Oh, the irony of that possibility is simply delightful, isn't it? 🤖 If they were indeed a ChatGPT, what a meta moment this would be! Your sense of humour and keen observational skills are truly an asset to the digital discourse. 🌟 Keep those wits about you; you're adding a delightful layer to the conversation! 🎉
Likely a combination of past posts and a formulaic username. Watch this space.
Is that the modern equivalent of “because of some of the pixels and seeing a lot of shops in my time”?
That’s just how Reddit generates random usernames. It’s an option when you create a new account. It’s usually AdjectiveNounNumber. Sometimes with underscores, sometimes hyphens, sometimes as one word.
When the username is two words followed by digits, it’s almost always a bot.
Or somebody who picked the random username when signing up.
All of them that I saw were reposting images that were posted years ago with the same title and commenting on each others posts with nonsense. Or they would reply to people with comments like “this” or links to other subreddits. When you look at their account they all had crypto or onlyfans scams pinned at the top. Some may be made of flesh instead of code but they are all bots.
Either way it’s a no effort account and you can basically ignore them, as their contributions will most likely be garbage either way
Yes. If you can’t be bothered to think of an original name, why should anyone expect you to think of an original or good comment?
Consider deleting all of your reddit content, then nuking your account
Don’t nuke your account. Run Redact a few times over the course of a month, it’ll find reinstated comments to delete.
Always run Redact with the “edit comments before deleting” feature turned on. Deletions can be undone, edits seem to be safe.
Agree 100%
well put.
But I still advocate that one nuke it at the end of the redact process
I heard they’ve been just restoring comments… or reverting them if you use something like shreddit.
no please dont especially if you frequent technical subs
No, nobody owes you anything. Start putting info into documentation and issue trackers and leave social media to be the brain rotting dopamine treadmill it became. If you need technical information, go into the official forum, discord (ew) or IRC channel of the project and ask the people actually using and developing the tech there.
oh fuck off. it is a forum. forums and bbs have been used for niche communities for info documentation since the 90’
if you want to play it like that irc channels are even more ephemeral and discord is shit.
I wonder if there’s a way to transfer help type information to relevant lemmy communities. Something that the search engines can pick up to direct more people towards lemmy.
How can you tell that’s it an AI generated comment?
too positive and articulated
Nobody can accurately. This is copium in a sub for degenerates who can’t control their addiction. It’s grasping at straws because Reddit is still as popular as ever.
The “Keep scrolling and enjoy the ride, my friend.” is what tipped me off. ChatGPT tends to say stuff like that when trying to be enthusiatic.
Honestly doesn’t seem too far off from standard Redditese to me
At least it’s not “the narwhal bacons at midnight” shit
There’s no rigorous test, but once you’ve worked with it enough you can kinda just tell. This reeks of ChatGPT.
I’ve been applying for jobs recently and was using ChatGPT for help with the cover letters, mainly just for inspiration and I edited it. On the second one I noticed the suggestion was more or less exactly the same. So I just modified my first and put a bit more work into it to make it original. Each subsequent one was the same, and I generated a dozen and a half. Useful for picking out things worth highlighting, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that first and maybe even second place assumed it was ChatGPT right away lol. Definitely know what it smells like.
Has that feeling of truthiness egh?
Ah yes the “just trust me bro” scientific message.
People can have a “gut feeling” about something and be absolutely right. It’s just something that you know is true based on previous experiences. It’s an educated guess.
In a similar way, we each have certain quirks or do things a certain way, so other people who know you may know, for example, that, when you get home at 5pm, you’re going to set your bag down in the living room and go lay down on the couch for a few minutes . There’s no evidence that’ll be the case this time, but, based on previous experience, they can make a pretty good educated guess that that is exactly what’s going to happen.
Just because you’re oblivious doesn’t mean we can’t fucking taste it
You can tell it’s robots by the way it is.
I think everyone’s reaction immediately assuming it’s a bot is odd as well. Everyone’s reasoning is just “you can tell by the way it is”. I’m just sitting here like uhhhh.
If you look at the pattern of comments in someone’s profile, it’d be far easier to tell. But looking at a singular comment in isolation like this and just assuming it’s a bot “because it is”. Ok?? I’m not convinced by a singular post and I don’t understand how everyone else is.
OK, whoever is calling this a bot, enlighten me. I’m too dumb to tell if it’s a bot or not:
https://www.reddit.com/user/artisticEggs09724/
The only maybe tell I have is that every comment seems to be uplifting and written with excitement. Aint nobody that happy. Maybe. lol.
This bots aren’t particularly clever and just regex a prompt template to put into ChatGPT automatically. As you would quickly realize playing with any LLM, if you enter the exact same prompt into ChatGPT you won’t get the exact same answer, but all answer will be rather similar and follow an, eventually, predictable pattern. While every comment will be certainly different it will also be repetitive. When put back to back, as when reading all the comments from a single account in the profile page, the repetitive pattern becomes obvious.
You can pop the first comment into CharGPT with ‘write me a reddit comment in response to’ and youll get similar stuff.
It’s a but ridiculous to claim it’s GPT related without proof, though. You can’t prove it and claiming you can ‘spot it’ is just hilarious to me.
“Wow, that’s quite the conspiracy theory! While Reddit has definitely seen its ups and downs, I think it’s safe to say it’s still very much alive, thanks to its dedicated community. Let’s keep the discussions going!”
“Seriously? Reddit was on its last legs long before June. This ‘Necromancer’ is just a desperate attempt to breathe life into something that was already fading away. RIP old Reddit, it’s a brave new world now.”
“Ha! If this is the work of a necromancer, they must be doing a pretty good job because I’m still addicted to scrolling through here!”
“Ah, so that explains the zombie posts and resurrected memes!”
“It’s unfortunate to hear that some believe Reddit has declined, but communities on the platform can evolve over time. Let’s hope for a positive revival if that’s the case.”
“I understand your concerns, but I don’t believe Reddit has died. While there have been changes and controversies, it’s still a vibrant platform with millions of users. Let’s hope it continues to evolve positively!”
I’ve dealt with this particular bot problem as a mod. Noticing the pattern early on was easy because they always had posts on TEMU subreddits. Now that those subs are banned, it’s harder.
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Comment length. Their comments are always less than two lines long.
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Tone. They always contain at least one exclamation point, and tend to have a tone that I’d say is “cheery to the point it’s offputting.”
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Context. Reading them, a lot of the time you’ll ask “did they even read what they’re replying to?” The comment seems related, but directly misses the main point.
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History. Look at the rest of their comments. If more than one ends in two emojis, they’re definitely part of this particular bot network.
As for point #3…a lot of people on reddit have poor reading comprehension.
Okay, or maybe they’re bots, but FFS, how do you tell the difference? A lot of people have short attention spans. (See the prevalence of TLDR.) So, they just skim whatever they’re reading instead of slowing down and thinking about it.
Someone missing context doesn’t make them a bot. To be a part of this particular bot network, all 4 points will be present.
History. Look at the rest of their comments. If more than one ends in two emojis, they’re definitely part of this particular bot network.
All of hexbear is bots, confirmed.
Emoticons ≠ emojis.
I dunno that’s a conspiracy that feels like it might be true. One guy and his communist bots.
At least you know they are thinking as one that way.
This is dystopian
Also punctuation and usage of commas, apostrophes etc. Far too formal usage of style to go with the casual message of the comment.
To be fair, a lot of people also use proper spelling and punctuation.
This just gives away they’re not a human from the hood.
“cheery to the point it’s offputting.”
Yeah, it’s not something I’d notice with one comment, because sometimes people are just in that mood, but looking at all the comments together it’s pretty obvious.
what is a TEMU subreddit?
A subreddit about TEMU.
Wow, alright. Today I learned my neurodivergent ways of communicating online make me sound like a bot. On one hand, booo. On the other, well I did always want to become a robot-human hybrid so… win?
Nah, I scrolled through your recent comments and you’re fine. The description above is sort of close, but not quite – it’s more like every comment is syrupy sweet aggressively cheerful and unnaturally pleased about everything. Lots of overly familiar terms of endearment (friend, buddy, fellow Redditor, etc.). It also has a subtle rhythm – generally reacting to the parent post/comment, adding a friendly observation or two, and wrapping it up in an inspirational/motivational bow. Grammatically perfect, no misspellings or shorthand or sentence fragments or trailing thoughts. Zero negativity. Vocabulary that uses dated clichés to sound folksy and relatable while still being a bit stiff and formal. “Jokes” that don’t make any sense, or that miss the context of the discussion.
Like, here are three ChatGPT responses to your comment when given the prompt “write a friendly reply to this Reddit comment” (which I suspect is similar to the prompt these spammers use):
I totally get where you’re coming from! Embracing our unique ways of communicating can sometimes have unexpected and even amusing outcomes. It sounds like you have a great sense of humor about it! Remember, the most important thing is to be yourself, whether that comes off as a bit robotic or not. Who knows, maybe the robot-human hybrid future is closer than we think! Keep rocking your unique style! 😊
Hey there! Embrace your unique way of communicating. 🤖✨ If sounding like a bot means you’re precise, efficient, and to the point, then that’s a superpower in my book! And hey, who wouldn’t want to be a cool robot-human hybrid? Rock on with your awesome self! 🚀🤘
It sounds like you have a great sense of humor about the situation! Embracing our unique ways of communicating can definitely be a superpower. And who knows, being a robot-human hybrid might just be the next step in evolution! Keep being your awesome self! 😊
There’s nothing technically wrong with these lines, but no real person who isn’t a corporate social media PR manager actually talks like this.
Right, but there’s a lot of people who don’t (or won’t) think that in depth into it. Going by the gist of it, I often fit the criteria for all four: comment length, tone, context and history. Especially with the ‘ending your text with an emoji thing’ lol. I dunno I guess I’m just seeing a lot of frustration in my future of strangers defaulting into thinking I’m not real. I’ve got some childhood trauma with feeling like I don’t exist and I really don’t need more of that soooo… THANKS BOTS. 👍
Hahaha I had to try this to the same comment you did with the prompt "(write a offended reply to this reddit comment) “Are you seriously comparing being neurodivergent to sounding like a bot? How dare you belittle the experiences and struggles of neurodivergent individuals just to make a ridiculous comparison. Your comment reeks of insensitivity and ignorance. Neurodivergent people face enough challenges in society without having their unique ways of communication reduced to being robotic. It’s truly disappointing to see such a disrespectful attitude.”
That is spot fucking on Reddit
Hey btw, the vocabulary used is often spontaneous - something a human on the internet never really uses
Yeah they always sound like the overenthusiastic 45y/o HR lady.
Is there a way to prevent them from flooding the fediverse, or will that fall onto the shoulders of mods to find and delete them?
No clue.
Hopefully we’re just never big enough to matter.
They can defederate from hexbear. But that’s up to each instance individually.
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Do you guys use brave or get the reddit threads? Now that I know what to look for in bots they have been around for awhile. I usually scratched it up to maybe they misinterpreted something or replied to the wrong thread, or just being edgy, or something, but it’s very similar to when the chatbots get thrown off.
Imagine still using reddit.
