• PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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    It’s because an app allows them to collect all kinds of telemetry and usage data that they can’t get from a browser. Browsers inherently limit what kinds of data they can collect by walling them off, while an app gives them full control over what they collect.

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    Fuck spectrum as well.

    They have my apartment complex on lock. I wanted to try fios or Google Fi, but noooo… stuck using spectrum due to a contract between the two.

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    I’ve been using the internet since 1996. Newsgroups is about all that was good back then. Oh and email.

    Chrome has become the new IE6 and Google the Microsoft of the internet.

    Today is a bit of a low point, but I don’t think there was any perfect time.

    Flash was a major issue during a lot of the “golden years” people are romanticizing. ActiveX was also, and still is, an issue for some parts of the world. Silverlight as well to a lesser extent

    If there were any golden years, they probably were when the big three had similar market share between 2009 and 2014. But it was clear what was happening over those years, Chrome was eating IE and waning FF.

    Yes apps are bad news.

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      You are wise beyond your years. In respect I look at the late 90s as maybe my favorite period when the Internet was mostly run by (and used by) smart engineers and techies and not corrupted by misinformation and data mining. IRC was great at doing what discord does today. The web still had fun stuff and shareware was great to explore. Broadband was ramping up so speed was good for people who had it.

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      I think people romanticize Flash because of all the fun games you could play at Newgrounds, ArmorGames etc, that’s where nostalgia hits hard. It’s easy to forget the hoards of very shitty sites that didn’t need Flash at all, but were entirely made in it because fuck you. Adobe buying Macromedia definitely didn’t help with performance or security.

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        I heard it rumoured it was written in 32bit x86 and was a mess. That meant porting it to ARM was basically a rewrite. There are open source rewrites. But nothing would ever play everything the same. Flash was riddled with security flaws of both format and implication. Adobe joined im killing it became it was a risk to Adobe not at an asset. Despite it’s dominance at the time.

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      I was gonna post IE6. Internet technology was stagnated for a few years until Firefox lit a fire under everyone’s ass.

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          Mozilla is funded by Microsoft so they can point to it and say “we’re not a monopoly look at this other browser”. Literally the same reason apple exists. We aren’t getting an open market we’re getting bought and paid for fake competition.

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          I’m skeptical that a FF with a majority market share would continue to be as user-centric as it is now. Honestly I sort of hope that a third option comes out, but FF is my go to option for now.

          I’ve lost faith in Google (nod to your username) for sure - in general I miss disruption, everyone used to believe they could do it better so no one shied away from the idea of building a better browser engine or any other technology for that matter.

          Google stopped making decisions in the best interest of anyone other than their shareholders a long time ago.

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            I don’t really think the current setup is too bad. Chromium being open source means anyone can fork it and make their own better browser without having to write everything from scratch.

            Personally, I use Vivaldi. To the best of my knowledge Google can’t spy on me, they have plans for mitigating Manifest V3, and it has many useful extra features such as tab splitting and separate workspaces. It’s made to be super customizable and from my experience the interface stays mostly the same between updates - something that annoyed me a lot about Chrome/Firefox. It can be a little rough around the edges sometimes, but I love using it.

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    But they run unnecessary JavaScript Frameworks just for a page which redirects you to the download.

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      Not just the internet, consumer computing as a whole became a shitshow. You need accounts for everything, Microsoft pushes you hard to use their online service, the default becoming that you to log onto your own computer you need to go through their online Microsoft account, which is terribly unsafe (if your ms account gets hacked, the hacker had access to you system). After “software as a service” more or less has been normalised, I’m just waiting for hardware going down that path, too. I’d say it begins already that I had to create a NVIDIA account to actually update drivers. Soon, this account may not be free anymore.

      To most issues like this there are workarounds, but sometimes you have to dig deep. So it’s either you need to spend time to make things work like you want, or accept all this crap. For me, this is fine, because I like the tinkering. But I am also *administrating" most of my elder family members’ computers, which is a nightmare because of that. “So I saved the document, where is it on my computer,?” - “If you used the default OneDrive crap, it just is not on your computer…”

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        This is the power of FOSS. By default it treats the end user with dignity because you aren’t a tool to extract value from anymore.

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    Lol you clearly weren’t actually using the internet years ago. If you didn’t have Microsoft internet explorer and flash plugin loads of sites wouldn’t work.

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        Ahh. So a newbie. There was a short time which was as you described, which you seem to have started your internet journey during. Before then it was IE and plugins otherwise loads of sites wouldn’t work right, after that is now with everything claiming it needs chrome.

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        The point that op is rose tinting the past when all that’s happened is we’ve moved from one evil megacorp dominating the internet to another?

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    Internet years ago:

    Site optimised for internet explorer 4.1, resolution 800x600

    To view this website you need macromedia flash

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    It’s like if they were a physical location and trying to dictate what car you drive to get there. What business is it of theirs?

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      Having your own router/access point can’t be stressed enough.

      And, you don’t even need their modem. Sure it’s an additional outlay of cash, but buying your own modem gets you a nice upgrade and no worries about someone connecting to the Xfinity access point that’s bundled in their equipment.