Tesla co-founder previously suggested Taiwan should become a ‘special administrative zone’ in China

Elon Musk, the owner of X/Twitter, was called out on his platform by Taiwan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs after calling the island nation an “integral part of China” and insisting that he understands “China well.”

Mr Musk made the comments on the “All In” podcast while answering a question about China and the future of his involvement with the nation.

During the interview, Mr Musk said “I think I understand China well,” and notes that he’s been there several times and has met with high-ranking officials.

He then turns his attention to Taiwan, and compares its relationship to China to Hawaii’s relationship to the US, insisting it is "an integral part of China that is arbitrarily not part of China”.

That comparison is flawed in two major ways: first, Hawaii is not a contested region, but is unquestionably a US state with all the same powers and freedoms granted any other US state; second, Taiwan’s assertion that it is its own state is not arbitrary, but instead a position it has held for decades.

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      The company was incorporated as Tesla Motors, Inc. on July 1, 2003, by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning.[13][14] Eberhard and Tarpenning served as CEO and CFO, respectively.[15] Eberhard said he wanted to build “a car manufacturer that is also a technology company”, with its core technologies as “the battery, the computer software, and the proprietary motor”.[16]

      Ian Wright was Tesla’s third employee, joining a few months later.[13] In February 2004, the company raised US$7.5 million (equivalent to $12 million in 2022) in series A funding, including $6.5 million (equivalent to $10 million in 2022) from Elon Musk, who had received $100 million from the sale of his interest in PayPal two years earlier. Musk became the chairman of the board of directors and the largest shareholder of Tesla.[17][18][15] J. B. Straubel joined Tesla in May 2004 as chief technical officer.[19]

      A lawsuit settlement agreed to by Eberhard and Tesla in September 2009 allows all five – Eberhard, Tarpenning, Wright, Musk, and Straubel – to call themselves co-founders

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla,_Inc.#Founding_(2003–2004)

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    Didn’t he recently say he does everything he can to prevent wars and the like?

    Cause this is quite the exact opposite of trying to prevent wars.

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        Yeah, I think people underestimating Musk is extremely dangerous.

        Everyone underestimated Trump too and gave him 24/7 coverage because of how “stupid” he was.

        Assume a powerful enemy is intelligent, or you’ll not understand how they got their power and will be perplexed as to how they grow it and how they will abuse it.

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          When relentless coverage of terrible people, and their insane words/actions, results in said people winning fair elections, I think the intelligence of the electorate might be the biggest problem.

          But yes, that’s beside the point, as is their growing mental illnesses and instability. The wealth/power they’ve been allowed to accumulate will always make them a danger/threat that should be taken seriously.

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        Same reason the IRS spends all their time auditing poor people who made mistakes instead of auditing one billionaire for year. The metrics they’re graded on aren’t based on quality, they’re based on quantity. Going after a billionaire is expensive, and sure, it would have lasting positive impact, but they’re graded on number of cases closed

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            Exactly my point. We could spend 1 year auditing / investigating 1-2 billionaires and have way more government funding and way less foreign interference, but we don’t because the system is working as intended

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    suggested Taiwan should become a ‘special administrative zone’ in China

    Yes, because that worked so perfectly for Hong Kong. 🤥

    I bet China would embrace such a deal happily even with eager, wait a few years, and then force full integration.

    Musk is such an idiot, that I lack words to describe it. He has been convinced (bribed) by China to spew shit in all directions regarding Ukraine and Taiwan, he is 100% an undeclared foreign agent of the worst kind.

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      He has a clear financial interest due the Tesla factories in China and the amount of cars sold there.

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        Yes, and I bet China is leveraging that, and Musk falls for it.

        But I doubt it surpasses USA and Europe combined. Which should be his real interests, and probably would be, if we used similar methods the Chinese do.

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            Yes absolutely, although I see the numbers slightly different:

            The graph says USA 41, China 18, other 23 billion USD. That translates to:

            • USA 50%
            • China 22%
            • other 28.

            USA is higher than I expected, but still USA and Europe are way more important combined than China from that graph. So maybe Musk shouldn’t rely so much on China, if he wants to look out for his own interests.

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    By that logic it’s also completely arbitrary that mainland China isn’t part of Republic of China.

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    People think this guy is an idiot yet there’s not a single day he’s not on the front page. Keep on fueling his popularity…

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      I used to want a Tesla and loved catching SpaceX streams but this has all soured them for me.

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        Me too… To pour salt in your wound… Did you hear they’re only published on X now?

        To get over it, I just remind myself that there are many other talented people working for SpaceX and Gwynn Shotwell runs the day to day operations.

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        I thought it’d be cool to work for SpaceX for a long time but…

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      Even if I try to avoid it, I see reality stars on the front page of new sites everyday. Does that make them more popular to me? No.

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    Really wish I could figure out how to set up a filter for this POS so I don’t have to keep encountering him.

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      Truly smart people are happy to give opinions about topics they have some knowledge of and tend to not weigh in on things they know they’re ignorant about. Then there are people like Musk who seem to think they’re an authority on absolutely fucking everything.