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Okay, but windows has become alarmingly invasive and dumbed down.
I don’t hate windows as much as I hate Microsoft.
ReactOS is a cool project and I hope it goes somewhere.
ReactOS is dead and will go nowhere.
The reason I say this is that I’ve been following them for something like 15+ years by this point, and they haven’t made any perceptible progress in that time. They’re at exactly the same point now where they were 15 years ago.
I completely forgot about this little gem. I used to follow it too, but just dropped it along the way.
Maybe they’ll launch with Starfield
Yes, Windows has become alarmingly invasive and dumbed down.
But how difficult is it to use actual arguments to prove they did instead of pulling completely false ones out of your ass?
I make fun of Windows search all the time because it deserves it.
But I’m not going to make fun of Windows update because it doesn’t directly tell you what they changed. Since a single google search can give you the answer.
Anyway, Linux memes should be about Linux, not Windows. It is almost like those Linuxians are jealous Windows has a ginormous market share while their respective distro does not.
What market share are you talking about?
Overall Linux runs the world. So I am generally confused.
Oh, you know.
The 70% in the personal desktops wordwide.
The 75% in the personal laptop worldwide
The 30% of all operation systems, which only gets beaten by Android.
The 96.61% of devices that run Steam
The only one Linux has anything in is on servers.
Then go and use any of the things you are using without linux.
Lemmy? Hosted on a Linux server
Almost any major website? Linux server
Any other web service? Linux Server
The Server infrastructure that surrounds your favourite Operating System? Guess what, Linux server
So you agree that it’s jealousy that the entire world uses windows and not linux? It’s the 23rd Year of the linux desktop in a row. “Uhhhhhh but my servers…” Nobody cares. Nobody wants to get rid of Debian and RHEL. Nobody wants to use them as a Desktop.
Nobody wants to use them as a Desktop.
Except for millions upon millions of users, right? Screw those guys because they aren’t the majority.
I dunno dude. 4 Billion People use computers and millions of users spread over several distributions is not a lot.
And with the amount of gatekeeping and arguing over what is and isnt the best i would also stay far away if i didnt administer servers. Even then i use windows most of the time.
Don’t forget to add android into the mix as well!
Did I stutter?
Without Linux the whole world would litetally not run. I don’t fucking care what some consumers jack of on which OS. I care what runs literally our complete infrastructure.
Which car does use Windows or Mac? Which super Computer does that? Which Important Server does that? None, literally.
Mentioning Windows’ market share really hit a nerve with you, didn’t it?
I use Linux without worrying about whatever market shares anyone has, and I feel much happier that way.
Yes, I wanted to go against his “we as Linux users are jealous about Windows because of marketshare” which I tried to defeat because I literally am not jealous for given reasons.
The 30% of all operation systems, which only gets beaten by Android.
funny you mention that, wanna know what you get if you look at the Kernel running underneath Android? Oh would you look at that, it’s actually Linux…
I do agree on the weird obsession with hating windows but lack of market share is not the reason it happens, it’s probably more due to people leaving Windows in the first place because they were immensely unsatisfied with it (Unlike Windows or Mac there are very few Linux Pre-Built PCs out there so chances are any given Linux Desktop User actively decided on that choice) and are now just hung up and bashing on it.
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Lemmy as a platform doesn’t have any focus, what are you talking about?
Lemmy is more left than reddit, suck it up buttercup.
This is entirely unrelated to the post lmao.
You must be lost.
No linux, gnu, and fsf are all just code commies. But commies for sure.
does that help connect the dots?
IE actually outperformed chrome for a good amount of time but the circlejerk was so strong nobody believed me even as I provided evidence.
The one thing I cannot stand about Edge is that if you want to use it for some specific webapps, but still use another browser as the system default, it will always open links in Edge.
For example, I use Teams and Outlook for work. I have each of them as a PWA installed as a webapp. I used to have them via Edge, but use Chrome for everything else. But anytime I clicked on a link in an email or Teams message, it would open a new Edge window and ignore my system settings.
To be clear, I’m doing this on Ubuntu, and not Windows. So we’re not dealing with that anti-user choice crap that Microsoft does with Edge over and over.
The Chromium Edge really started to win me over a bit with how well they have done vertical tabs (Brave only just recently got something even close). Was cool up until Microsoft really seems like they have gotten insecure about trying to be popular again. I fix people’s computers so I see it more than a normal user would, so I will just say that now. But it feels like every time I open Edge it seems to just bukkake my eyes with “helpful” pop-ups trying sooo bad to trick me into turning on more and more data collection “features”. It is already annoying that they try to cover up the area where the download starts if it detects that it is on the Chrome download page.
But they took what was looking to be a shockingly good alt to Chrome, and I have even gone out of my way from time to time to let customers know that they don’t really need Chrome and Edge. Instead I try to at least offer Firefox as a second option. As I do find that if a site is messed up for Chromium based browsers FF might at least give them a usable site until Edge/Chrome starts working again.
That being said, I am really curious how the original Edge would work if they had kept at it. It sucked at first because all browsers suck for awhile when new. The extensions being through the app store seemed about as normal as what Apple does with Safari. But the Edge extensions didn’t require first signing into the store in order to get free ones. So that was much less frustrating. Jumping to Chromium just further enabled Google to be on more fuck shit.
Okay but hear me out, Linux.
I’m y’all’s worst nightmare. I would gladly let them collect my data
To be honest I’d still be on Windows if MS hadn’t screwed me out of the license I bought through the MS store and attached to my MS account. I do kinda miss the new Bing assistant in Edge, that was neat to screw around with for free while I was on that OS
There are .deb and .rpm versions of Edge for Linux. Doesn’t get mentioned on the main download site until you scroll below the Mac/iPhone/Android options.
I do kinda miss the new Bing assistant in Edge, that was neat to screw around with for free while I was on that OS
You can use it on other browsers with a little bit of work, changing user agents and things like that.
I don’t have a problem with Edge itself. We use it at work and it’s fine. I have a problem with microsoft constantly trying to trick me into using it among all their other shitty practices.
My dad came to me in a panic “All of my passwords are gone!!!” turns out macroshaft kicked chrome off default he was using edge without knowing. It actually took me awhile to realize it was edge too because the UI is so similar. Edge does have a really big unmovable spam toolbar along the side so that was pretty much my only major tell.
The toolbar can be turned off with 1 click
just block me now then I don’t have any other personality traits
I use arch btw Edge sucks
Edge is a decent browser. Second best after Firefox.
The cool thing about browser choice is there are no “correct” answers – it’s personal preference.
So don’t let the fanboys get you down. You’re entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong.
I recently switched from brave too Firefox And I love it so far
But edge, especially the new chromium based one isn’t half bad and I believe it’s actually faster then chrome
And certainly a hell of a lot better then internet explorer
Edge is super lightweight and very handy for websites that don’t play well with Firefox and my suite of extentions.
What a surprise the browser made by the same dev as the OS, is optimized for the OS.
When it comes to browsing the web and showing content and having good add-ons, edge does a good job.
But why does it need to constantly advertise itself and other microsoft things to me? It’s annoying when Firefox does this, but it feels like edge does it almost every time I open it.
Plus I believe you can turn it off in firefox
Yea I do get a little tired of all the Windows-hate haha
It’s ironic cause it is almost guaranteed most people on here use windows.
It’s crazy how comfortable the Linux community on Lemmy seems to be with forever living in Windows’ shadow.
At least that’s the impression you get with how often their conversations only revolve around “Windows bad”.
It’s not hate. It’s just that when you know things, windows is simply insufferable and not working. And they make the system worse with each update.
“not working”?
amazing perspective
Bullshit
Somehow windows users manage to be more irrationally attached to their company brand than Linux users.
Windows users are not the ones who spam the lemmy front page with WiNdOwS bAd memes
But Linux users are suffering computer illiteracy every day they’re working. You can ban a user or a community if it bothers you so much.
I already did.
unfortunately, that’s also my experience. I have to stick with Windows because of a few programs I use professionally, and dual-booting would be annoying
Yeah these ads that they shoved in my start menu and lockscreen are totally legit! I can’t wait to consoom!
Have you ever been on a date with someone who’d spend most the time talking shit about their ex?
It’s so goddamn annoying because I can block it on my personal computer but then they get me at work.
I was pretty ambivalent on Linux until then, but between that and the growing support for Linux gaming I’m going to have to make the plunge.
Yep cause my comment was “windows is perfect”
Didn’t take me much effort to reach a near ad-free experience within the OS anyway
You’re missing the point. It shouldn’t take any effort. An operating system is not a place ads should be.
I’m not saying they should be, I’m saying it’s easily avoidable
It’s going to be the death of lemmy’s potential growth.
Hell no it ain’t
It’s Chrome, but Microsoft. So no it’s not good but not because of speed or technical quality.
