Let’s just flip a coin. Heads we stick with summer time, tails we stick with standard. In 2026 it goes live. Gives everyone 2 years to update what they need. Humans will adapt.
The science says standard time is better for public health, and the sun sets later in the summer anyway. Plus US states don’t need congressional approval for permanent standard time, but they do need it for permanent daylight saving time
Sure, I’m down. My point is, there’s really no point to over-analyse it. Choose one, flip a coin, hold a referendum, I really don’t care as long as we stop having these pointless changes twice a year.
There just always seems to be an excuse and then it goes into an argument of standard over summer. It really doesn’t matter. It’s impossible to please all and cover every single use-case. Humans will adapt.
I know I might be crazy for saying this, but I prefer midnight to be at 00:00, not 01:00.
Unless you live on one of the 24 astronomical borders between timezones it’s neither anyway
It’s Limmy on Lemmy!
Every time I see a meme like this, I freak out a little bit because I wonder if it’s happening soon
I’ve been an adult through 20+ changes of the clock, and I still will not know when it’s time to change them until 3 days before
20+ time changes just accounts for the last 10+ years (assuming you live in an area with DST)
And I’m 28, the math maths
Perhaps the only good thing about living in Arizona is that I don’t have to deal with daylight savings time. We have too much daylight here as it is
3 days before?
If anything I notice the wrong time on my oven.Found the guy without kids. Each switch is hell for 3-7 days, regardless of age. I like to know it’s coming way ahead of time so I can start adjusting their schedules to limit the damage.
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This guy kids.
I hate daylight savings even more since I have kids.
Yeah 3 days before? I only found out it was DST this weekend just gone because I happened to still be up.
Me: man it’s almost 2am, I should go to bed
DST: lol 3amTIL Austrialia has their own weird daylight savings time
Yeah we stopped being on Arizona time in the 70s.
My room is still messed up, and I know why! Yea-yeah!
Daylight saving is supposed to save a huge amount of energy, and I am all for that…, but could we maybe still not do it?.. Maybe just hibernate for the winter…, save loads more energy and, yes, solved it … and…sleep 😁
Annoying part is it doesn’t even save a huge amount of energy. Negligible amounts either way.
Missed work and sleep cycle disregulation effects are not trivial either. It’s dumb. Pathetic that our spineless politicians can’t even do something simple and non partisan like getting rid of this bullshit.
Yeah, tell me about it…
Edit: Hey, I just looked it up and apparently at least some of them did try back in 2022. From Wikipedia:
In 2022, the United States Senate passed the Sunshine Protection Act which would permanently activate daylight saving time, but it was not approved by the U.S. House of Representatives.[3]
Yeah, Even this they fight about.
Oh, agreed. I’m just giving credit where credit is due.
sleep cycle disregulation effects are not trivial either
I get that there’ve been studies about this so it’s hard for me to argue, but I still can’t quite understand how it has such a strong effect. If someone happens to be busy one night and goes to sleep an hour later than usual it doesn’t seem like the end of the world to me.
Multiply the small effects you can imagine by about a billion. Even small disturbances have an impact at this scale.
at this scale
At what scale? It’s losing an hour of sleep, which people who aren’t terribly overworked or on super tight schedules should be able to handle without much issue. I still don’t really see the difference between losing a single hour of sleep one day and moving clocks.
I think it’s like jet lag. We have our own natural time and sleep rhythms. If you go to bed late yes your tired the next day, but your time sleep rhythm is not affected, your body knows it is short of sleep. When someone messes with the clock your body is out of sync for a number of days.
Costs money. Costs lives.
Back in the day it did because people could keep their lights off for longer. But now they need to keep their AC on more.
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Just push the whole world time 30mins into the past/future and abolish it completely. No need for that stupid shit.
No. Just leave it at the current summer setting.
The US tried permanent daylight saving time in the 70s and everyone hated it. Approval dropped over 30 points in the first couple months and it had to be cancelled early
There are a bunch of US states that already have trigger laws ready for when the federal government does away with DST. I personally cannot wait for that change.
Meanwhile, I have to take Vitamin D supplements during winter because I’m up in the dark, working inside during the sunlight hours, and knock off just in time for the sun to disappear and take the dog for a run on a sport field under flood lights.
But let’s save an hour of sunlight in summer months so dinner can feel like second lunch and we have to block out the windows to start feeling sleepy in the evening to prepare for bed.
Fuck the circadium rythm! /s
because I’m up in the dark, working inside during the sunlight hours, and knock off just in time for the sun to disappear and take the dog for a run on a sport field under flood lights.
That’s the current pattern with changing the time back for the winter to try to get people more light. Daylight at the (eg) NYC latitude at the solstice is about 7 to 4:30, so most people get up with or before the sun, then leave work after it sets. Unless you’re proposing we shift back 2 hours, permanent summer clocks would only change that people would see the sun as they leave work rather than when they go to it.
Either way people with seasonal affective disorder still wouldn’t get enough sun.
Hard agree.
It’s a terrible terrible invention.
But what do you do instead? Take a look at when some parts of the world would see their sunrise and sunset if all the world switched to winter time or summer time forever. What works at one place, results in a crazy daylight cycle in another.
That’s the reason I said 30min.
Not like we would abolish timezones.
Goddamnit , I thought the US Congress got rid of daylight savings time, but as always, it looks to have does in the house.
They wanted to make it permanent but the bill died in Congress. States can choose to abolish daylight saving time whenever they want without congressional approval
IIRC there are only 2 states that don’t abide by Daylight Saving Time: Arizona & Hawaii
Did daylight savings just start somewhere in the world or is this meme completely out of season?
Australia 😌
Yeah, this shit needs to stop.
me returning from work in the dark after spending all afternoon under cold white artificial lighting, and no dst:
alarm goes off
me staring at the numbers
“I’ve forgotten how to read.”
Daylight Savings is bad and its defenders should feel bad.
I wouldn’t mind moving forward an hour permanently, but first light at 3 AM with a 4:30 sunrise fucking blows. I’d much rather have it be light until 9 than 8, and I suspect way more people are still awake until 9 than those who get up around 4.
To be fair: If you live in the south, it doesn’t make much sense, but if you live a bit further north it’s the difference between getting up when the sun is a a reasonable place, or getting up in the middle of the night (winter) or the middle of the day (summer). I want it to be light out when I’m awake, not when it’s sleeping time.
Turns out it’s easier to adjust the clock than to say “work starts at 9 in the winter and at 8 in the summer”
I don’t want it to be dark so early. Living in the north, even with the extra morning hour in winter I still have to wake up in darkness. What’s the use of it?
Yea leaving work with the sun halfway down suuuuuuuuuuuuucks
Western Australia has successfully defended itself against the restern Australia and their demonic timewizardry
Instead of springing forward, let’s just keep falling back every year. Eventually it’ll work out.
