It’s just infuriating, there is no good reason for not supporting firefox

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      Chrome is becoming the modern Internet Explorer. “Oh, yeah, the site only really works in IE for some reason…”

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        Chrome is the new IE in terms of support. “Best viewed in Chrome”

        Safari is the new IE in terms of weird bugs that no other browser encounters. Some of their web APIs like LocalStorage and IndexedDB still have odd quirks (but at least they’re not completely broken any more).

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      That’s gotta make the Microsoft dev team confused. How can they call out Firefox in Teams if it doesn’t even identify itself as such?

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      Ye, i remember they mentioning this, and people i know confirm it works fine. It just doesnt work on my end. I do have firefox set up to be very private though ( no 3th party cookies and more )

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    It doesnt work on my systems ( firefox + windows, not linux ) either. With some user agent magic (tricking its running on safari/ios) it works… Except when you enable your camera in teams >>

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      Me too - can’t share my screen, can’t drag and drop files from folder other than Downloads, and if I am too fast when opening chat a start wroting a message it switches to RTL. Not talking about login loops, login expires but cookie doesn’t (if I close it, open it again, and I am fast enough I can still chat and it arrives, checked via phone).

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    is it just not working on firefox or artificially not supporting it? if the second option is true, then i think there’s a way to spoof websites into thinking you’re running chrome.

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        I’ve seen the exact same behaviour in the actual teams client on Windows. I think it’s likely just a bug.

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          I think it’s a bug too since I’m using teams web interface fine on Linux. I don’t like it but it works for meetings.

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            it’s a feature for digital wellbeing! if the software isn’t rendering chats, you can spend more time meditating and touching grass! because YOU “matter”!

            • microsoft, probably
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      My favourite example of this is how it handles audio devices. Every other app just uses the default Windows audio devices, maybe with an option to change it to something else if you want, but not Teams. It has to handle the choosing of the audio device itself. I once saw this lead to the fantastic situation where the sound in Windows was working fine via someone’s USB headset, but Teams decided it wanted to use the headphone jack built into their laptop dock as it’s audio device instead (no headphones were even plugged in). We manually changed it but it kept defaulting back to the headphone jack every time the dock was disconnected and reconnected! I can’t remember what fixed it in the end, probably just a reinstall or something but it was still a stupid and easily avoidable issue.

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        This problem also exists on the android app. When I put my ear buds in, teams somehow just refuses to switch to them. No other app has this problem, just teams.

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      I thought it might be sensible on Linux to use MS Edge for Teams (the PWA version).
      Nope, it’s just as shit in Microsoft’s own browser. There is apparently no saving it.

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        I tried the same thing and was flabbergasted at how badly optimized it is. It take ages to load in all three of the browsers I tried and it’s not even worth it since their feature set is 10 years behind the market!

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    I spent over an hour yesterday trying to fix onedrive sync issues caused by teams yesterday. I hate that software with a vengeance!

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        Oh I have it installed on both Windows 10 and Windows 11. It doesn’t work. It takes ages to load, it never updates people’s status correctly, half the time it doesn’t even log in. Why they didn’t just patch Skype instead of making that pile of garbage is beyond me.

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            Fixing the login doesn’t fix the rest of Teams’ problems. Maybe you’re the chosen one and everything works for you, but it’s not a common experience.

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    I had some issues with calling within teams on Firefox. I was able to resolve it by installing the Firefox plugin that resolves it.

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    Teams is a fucking joke and I hate it.

    Login loops, cookie mess, until recently calling not supported on Firefox (like what?)

    I mean it’s 2023 and you come up with this abomination, Microsoft?

    Teams should be illegal at this point.

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      How recently did calling become supported? About a month ago I was still unable to even log in using Firefox unless I used a user agent switcher, and even then only text-based messaging worked.

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        I read somewhere Firefox now changes its user agent automatically for Teams, maybe that fixed it.

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      Can’t forget it’s just reskinned Skype for Business. It was shit back in the day, but at least everything else was shitty aswell.

      In our company we self host Rocket.Chat, and damn me if it isn’t the best thing ever. It just fucking works, flawlessly.

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        What was the name of that thing before they gave it the skypeful makeover and added a bunch of useless annoying features? It was actually pretty good back then. Every redesign since then it’s been getting worse and worse.

        Edit: I just remembered it was called Lync.

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          Oh, I don’t recognize that name. I ve only been using MST for a year now at a new job. Since I am a contractor for another company, I still use self hosted Rocket.Chat instance, with Jitsi integration so we can also do calls.

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        Microsoft Teams has a completely different technical base than Skype for Business. Other platform, other language, other tech stack, other APIs, other protocols, other features. The one that just was a reskinned something was Skype for Business, formerly known as Lync, formerly known as Office Communicator, formerly known as Windows Messenger, formerly known as Exchange Conferencing, …

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      The only reason it exists is to keep companies trapped in the MS ecosystem. They do this with all kinds of things. For instance at my work it’s required for all engineers to get Azure certified due to a deal we have with MS. They don’t care about their product. They don’t care about their users. Hell they don’t even care about their employees. It’s just B2b == money, all day every day

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    I use the teams web interface, it works fine on Linux. Can’t do screen share on Firefox however, only in Chrome, so I switch over when I have to.

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    Do you have enhanced tracking protection on? Knowing Microsoft you might need to disable it for teams to work right

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        People don’t read error messages, even if they describe exactly what to do to fix the problem. :(

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      Firefox’s tracking protection is very aggressive and breaks some sites because it incorrectly thinks a first-party domain is actually a third-party one. For example, for some sites it thought the CDN at a separate domain was a third-party domain and blocked all the JS from loading. At work I’ve had to make a bunch of fixes to the disconnect.me list they use.

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    I am one of the last to defend Microsoft but I just tried it with Firefox 118.0.1 64-Bit on Win11 22H2 22621.2134 with uBlock Origin enabled.

    Loaded a good few times but it loaded and can chat.
    Seems more like a you problem!

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        So far so good. :/

        Honestly the native Linux app was buggy for me and the web version is a lot more stable. Not ideal, but I suppose I should be happy the overlords even allow me to connect from a Linux machine.

        Have you tried running the windows version in wine?

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        Spoof your browser to be a chromium sht like chrome. Let’s you join voice calls but I haven’t tested camera and screen sharing. I use chameleon addon for that.