JFC news reporting is so far below the bottom of the barrel at this point.
There is no such thing as news anymore, it’s all tabloid bullshit just looking for clicks and eyeballs.
Do we write a headline that’s accurate, or one that enrages people so they click the link?
Do we write an article with facts in an unbiased manner, or do we cherry pick interesting things that will pull emotional strings and tell people how they should feel about it, so they share the article with their family and friends?
When you dump a bunch of white criminals on a tiny continent and let them breed…
When you introduce two groups of people who have very different backgrounds.
Australians want to burn coal and spread hateful lies in the international media.
Aboriginals didn’t even have a way to make fire, write, make wheels, or farm.
Sadly, I’m not surprised that some stupid members of each group will cause trouble where it doesn’t need to exist. It’s really unfortunate. This major is one of those awful people.
Aboriginals didn’t even have a way to make fire, write, make wheels, or farm.
Incorrect, indigenous Australians used fire extensively for land management. They were the first society in the world that we have evidence of milling seed for flour (36k years ago), they had yam plantations, built stone weirs for fish farming, and a bunch of other things. The reason people believe they didn’t is because their way of life was systematically erased and dismissed as ‘primitive’ by the colonialists.
They didn’t use wheels, because many groups used waterways for transport instead. Other groups were on land where the environment wasn’t really conducive to wheeled transport.
They also didn’t have writing, instead relying on an extensive oral history, as many cultures have.
Please don’t spread misinformation.
Australians want to burn coal and spread hateful lies in the international media.
Largely incorrect as well, even if Australians are having issues with their government and the mining/energy industries.
Fiat lux. Bruin?
Kudos for your wholesome response.
Incorrect, indigenous Australians used fire extensively for land management. They were the first society in the world that we have evidence of milling seed for flour (36k years ago), they had yam plantations, built stone weirs for fish farming, and a bunch of other things.
Interesting. Any sources I could look up?
You bet!
If you’re not familiar with Australian Aboriginal and Torres Strait islander cultures generally, the Deadly Stories history timeline and the rest of the site gives a good high level overview from an aboriginal perspective. Especially for the creation stories which is a core similarity between different groups. There’s some who claim elements in the stories go as far back as when there were still megafauna. True? No idea. But fun to consider.
Bruce Pascoe wrote Dark Emu in 2019 which is a very important book about agriculture and tech that upset a lot of people. I’ve linked you a page that contains a brief summary plus links to academic responses to it, because it did cause controversy. Apologies for the school-age-centric link, there’s a big push in education right now to teach kids about the aboriginal stuff they didn’t teach adults, so links to aboriginal science tend to be at this level or uni research papers.
The whole movie about the writing of that book, criticism and backlash is up on ABC iView - The Dark Emu Story if you’re keen for something more human that gets into the racism of erasing aboriginal science too. A shit VPN might be needed, but I doubt ABC has done much more to geoblock.
Short article on aboriginal engineering, from NITV who cover news from an aboriginal perspective.
Older article on fire as land management by aboriginal peoples with a few pics is a good entry point for that topic. Fire is a huge part of many aboriginal groups, so the idea they didn’t have it is frankly ridiculous on the surface. Like they only ate raw food and huddled in caves for warmth for 60k years or something, i mean come on.
And just because I enjoy it, this map of the aboriginal groups in Australia. Also because people keep talking about Aboriginal Australians as though they are a monolith. There are at least 250 languages.
Thank you very much for the information. I will check it out.
Did the aboriginals use fire to cook food?
We have evidence of ovens from 4000 years ago, so very much yes. They always have, and it is baffling to me that anyone would say otherwise. Even 20 years ago nobody claimed bizarre things like that.
I remember seeing a talk by Bruce Pascoe where he described how the published journals of the early white explorers had been censored to remove references to the extensive agriculture, grain silos and aquaculture except where they painted them in a negative light.
He also told off one journal entry where a cake given by a First Nation person was described as the softest, sweetest cake he had ever eaten. He made the point that this was a comment coming from an Englishman!
With much of it unsafe or unpalatable raw, a variety of methods were employed to render the various foods edible, such as cooking on open fires (meat) or boiling in bark containers. They would pound vegetables and seeds, or hang them in bags in running water.[
Many foods are also baked in the hot campfire coals, or baked for several hours in ground ovens. “Paperbark”, the bark of Melaleuca species, is widely used for wrapping food placed in ground ovens. Bush bread was made by women using many types of seeds, nuts and corns to process a flour or dough.
The problem was/is the introduction of Europeans. Not the natives.
Copy paste that for every continent outside of Europe.
Is it bad that I saw “Barkly” and thought this was an absolutely bonkers story out of one of those towns where they let a dog be the mayor?
The pretty important context to this video is that the boy in question had allegedly just broken into the mayor’s house and he was waiting for the police (see here for a news article about the event).
What!?! No! That complicates my emotional response! Damn you and your “context!” Leave me with my clickbait titles and feelings of justified rage! Everyone I disagree with is a reasonless Neanderthal! I am superior and always right!
I think if there was any rage it’s because it’s a kid and the man is a figure of power. He’s supposed to represent the population and it’s interests. Basically what I’m saying is, if he made an effort to know the kid maybe he could find ways to help.
When you are a kid doing bullshit do you prefer to be helped to a better path or just plain old intimidaded for no truly decent purpose.
I think we have to find ways to improve help carry the next generation so they can achieve better things. But maybe that’s just bc I watch too much anime
Threatening to kill someone who isn’t a threat to you is psycho shit.
The mayor was restraining the boy a other person was threatening the boy.
Do people think they’re funny and/or smart leaving comments like this? Literally anytime someone questions something, there’s this comment.
Is The Gaurdian a Murdoch rag?
Sure, that justifies threatening a child with death.
Well, not after he’s been subdued.
Home invasions are inherent threats though.
In Canada I don’t think you can threaten it either way since you can’t legally protect you property with force unless force is used on you.
Thanks, always important to have the context.
Are you trying to tell me buzzy headlines and sound bites aren’t enough to form an accurate, in depth opinion so I can have lengthy discussions with people about complex societal problems and suggest no solutions? How dare you insult my world view
Feel like this guy gave in to the darkness. The wheel turns as the wheel wills.
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Pretty sad their tangata whenua are still treated so badly.
I’ve got this strange feeling of relief after reading this guy ISNT from the United States. 😅🫠
