Hamas has called on Palestinians to stay in their homes after Israel issued sweeping evacuation orders for almost half of Gaza’s more than 2.3 million people ahead of an expected ground offensive.
The Hamas authority for refugee affairs today told residents in the north of the territory to “remain steadfast in your homes and to stand firm in the face of this disgusting psychological war waged by the occupation”.
Israeli tactics to steal lands.
Who the hell is still defending Israel after this declaration to eradicate Palestinians in Gaza?
People who think that eradication of Israel is worse.
Translation: “If all the civilians leave, we won’t be able to use them as humans shields anymore.”
There’s nowhere for them to go…
Gaza is one of the most densely populated areas in the world, and Israel just told them to fit in half as much space at a time when they have no fuel, water, or electricity.
It’s fucking impossible. And if they actually move, the Palestinians are smart enough to know they will never be able to access that land again.
Hell, Hamas is the only ones with the resources to move
The point is, Hamas is deliberately trying to rise the death toll of Palestinians by telling them to stay put.
You think Israel will just stop and leave the Southern half?
Even if they did, they’re keeping the northern part and annexing it.
But more likely they’ll be invading the southern half immediately after taking the north.
They can’t even leave Gaza, because Israel is attacking the exit to Egypt.
Stop acting like them moving is in any way a valid option. They are literally fucked no matter what they do. And it’s been like this for a long long time.
The stated objective is to eliminate Hamas. Civilians are being told to evacuate the area. Hamas should not be advising otherwise. Doing so is inhumane and using the Palestinian people as human shields.
I think you get all of the information about the reality of this war from headlines and mainstream Western outlets.
Tell you what, why don’t your layout your excavation plan? I would strongly recommend you do at least some light reading about the reality on the ground first.
IDF spokesperson in Arabic - “The population of the city of Gaza, we address you this morning to leave the city of Gaza to the southern Gaza Strip for your security. I want to inform you that the IDF will refrain from touching the designated route on the map until 20:00. For your security, take advantage of the next time to move south from Beit Hanoun to Khan Yunis. We will publish additional safe methods later on. If you are concerned about yourselves and your loved ones, it is advisable to move south according to our instructions. Be close and assured that Hamas leaders are only concerned with protecting themselves in preparation for the upcoming attacks.”
I’m sorry, but parroting the IDF is not credible. Especially considering we’ve already had reports in the last several days of these IDF evacuation routes being bombed by the IDF.
So either go read up on the realities of Gaza, or GTFO with your idiotic takes.
In this case staying put will likely save more lives than trying to move 40k people per hour within 24 hours.
40k?
It’s 1.1 million people being told to leave their homes…
40k per hour
Not even Hamas themselves are saying they were doing it in order to prevent loss of lives during the evacuation.
A broken clock is right twice a day
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How?
Yes, but that’s only the convenient half for the pro-Israeli media.
The inconvenient other half is that they have blocked EVERY possible exit from Gaza, including telling the Egyptians to not allow anyone out.
So, no food, fuel, electricity, medicine, water, or shelters. One of the MOST densely populated regions in the whole world, and they were just expected to what? Walk down the strip to sit in the ‘safe’ bombed out rubble?
Would they be allowed a “right of return” afterwards?
No good options for those residents. So you can use this to rightfully condem Hamas because it suits their political objectives, but that doesn’t change the fact about the rest of what I’ve laid out.
So what would you do? Stay in your home and risk death? Or become homeless and only have a marginally less chance of death?
The inconvenient other half is that they have blocked EVERY possible exit from Gaza, including telling the Egyptians to not allow anyone out.
Er… that’s not true. They were initially telling Palestinians to go to Egypt. Egypt does not want them in the Sinai and told Israel to provide safe passage through Israel.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/rafah-border-gaza-egypt-israel-1.6994234
Yes, it’s true that Egypt does not want to allow a mass exodus of refugees.
It’s also true that Israel has been bombing that area as well.
So not sure what your point is.
It seems like the airstrikes damaging the crossing is a more recent development that I wasn’t aware of. Your CBC article and the CNN article posted above are only an hour old. Your Times of Israel article says this:
The Rafah crossing was open for periods Tuesday morning, but Egypt only allowed through Palestinians who’d already gotten authorization to leave the Strip.
On the Rafah crossing’s Facebook page, Gazans lamented the decision to not open the crossing for anyone wishing to leave, with one user writing: “Interior Ministry, this is not the time to put someone in danger who survived a bombing and miraculously reached the crossing. We cannot return to death.”
That’s exactly what I keep thinking about, to hell with what the controlling forces say, the two options in front of those residents aren’t really options. I can’t wrap my head around what that must be like.
Translation this is your land we have nothing left to lose because of systematic destruction of our land and Culture.
Gaza is more densely populated than LA and they have no electricity, water, or fuel.
The only exit is thru Egypt, and Israel keeps blowing it up.
Even if the message got to everyone, there’s no way people could do what Israel told them.
Israel knows this. They weren’t trying to “help” by announcing they’re going to flatten half of Gaza, they want to cause panic and riots.
Not true. Israel has given specific instructions to the UN and the Palestinian people where it is safe for them to go in Gaza.
And then they bomb and target those places specifically. Israel is staging a genocide. This statements are just lip service to pretend that they are following some formalism of humanitarian law.
That is false.
From the article you posted:
After the strike, IDF officials said the Rafah border crossing between the Gaza Strip and Egypt was not the specific target in the counter-attack against Hamas and that the bombs were intended to strike an underground smuggling tunnel nearby, per CNN.
The IDF also issued a clarification later Tuesday, after the strike near the Rafah crossing, saying there is “no official call by Israel for residents of the Gaza Strip to exit into Egypt,” the Times of Israel reported.
A random guy on the Internet says it’s false. MSN says it’s true.
Gee, who should I believe? /S
Read the article.
In this specific case isreal asked residents of Gaza city, a subpart of the Gaza strip to move to a more southern position in the Gaza strip. Like asking people to move from Manhattan to Brooklyn because they are going to blow up Manhattan. People are capable of moving within the Gaza strip. That doesn’t mean there will be housing for them however.
Like asking people to move from Manhattan to Brooklyn because they are going to blow up Manhattan
Even if this analogy was representative, this would ALSO be a complete mess to try and do and that’s in a city with working roads, fuel, transportation options, easy access to telecoms/information, and support personnel. Even with all that, it would not be possible to do in 24 hours.
I don’t think the analogy helped
Hamas is telling them not to even try. Not because it is logistically challenging, but because they want more Palestinian deaths. That’s inhumane.
I agree that they should try, that wasn’t the part I was commenting on
That doesn’t mean there will be housing for them however.
Or food… Or water…
Or shelter for a few days from now when Israel starts bombing the southern half.
All this is doing is motivating residents of Gaza to pick up arms against Israel.
Which a cynic would say is exactly what Israel wants
Hamas has been teaching them to pick up arms against Israel. Did you already forget what happened 6 days ago?
Teaching and motivating are two different things. Heck, they are even different words!
No. They want the people to stay not because they want to use the Palestinians as human shields. The Palestinians, women and children, were already there and they are bombed anyway. They are no such thing as ‘Palestinian human shields’ in the Israel government dictionary. So it doesn’t make sense Hamas wants them to stay just to be human shields.
They are many reasons. One of the main reason, I think because once the Palestinians leave the place, they’ll never get it back. They’ll be no more Palestinians’ Gaza Strip. Israel is going to make a stern example of the Palestinians for humiliating them. They’ll never be allowed to come back.
Here is an post (translated to English using Google Translate) that I got from a very popular Israeli Telegram channel that can summarise the sentiment of what should be done.
Am; Lek: The Israeli response should include the expulsion of Arab settlements (in the Gaza Strip and Judea and Samaria), and resettlement by Israelis. And not just bombing offices and eliminating terrorists.
In detail:
The situation in the country is very disturbing, it seems that the Israeli response is going to be: again bombings of offices, banks, warehouses, etc. in Gaza + several assassinations (perhaps even senior officials) + maybe also a ground entry into Gaza to hit other targets, etc., and finally exit back. And maybe there was a deal at the end of releasing prisoners in exchange for releasing terrorists, and maybe not.
This is dangerous for Israel and a historical miss:
- This will end the campaign that Hamas and all the other enemies around realize that it is possible to harm Israel even with crimes against humanity, and even come out with a “profit”.
- Therefore, this will cause more such actions against Israel (and in the future we will also get used to it, just as we got used to terrorist attacks in Israel, just as we got used to rockets from the Gaza Strip, etc.).
- There is no revenge for Arab violence.
- There is a historic opportunity here to turn the situation around, and for Israel to leave in a much stronger state than it entered, and to avoid deaths, etc. in the future. In the future it will be difficult to get legitimacy from the world again.
- This action (especially if it includes ground entry) could cost Israel a heavy price, and in vain.
- If IDF are also released from terrorists, then this will cause more and more acts of terrorism against Israel (also because it shows that the action against Israel pays off. And also releases more terrorists who continue to harm Israel. By the way, this event is also because of the Shalit deal freedmen)
- Defining a goal such as “destroying Hamas” is a non-measurable and not so realistic goal: even if 90% of the Hamas terrorists are eliminated, the rest can rise through the ranks, and new recruits can also join. And there is no “victory picture” and no clear evidence of who won the battle (just as it is not clear who won in any of the previous rounds in Gaza)
What, for example, should be the Israeli response:
- To carry out an action of deporting Arab villages (for example deporting the residents of Hawara to Sinai) to declare that every murdered Israeli will be deported to a village or neighborhood in an Arab city, and henceforth this is Israel’s war policy. You can even call these settlements after the names of the murdered. That both illustrates the revenge, and will also help the housing crisis and the financing of the war… For example - if Israel evicts dozens of Arab villages, and sells to the Israelis (at a “price for a settler?”) 100,000 houses + land at an average price of NIS 500,000, this is 50 billion NIS in revenue (it is possible to transfer part of the amount to the owners of the land if they vacate willingly and were not involved in terrorist activity against Israel)
- Deport the residents of Gaza to Sinai (it is possible without land entry, for example, open the crossing to Sinai, ensure that there is no water, etc. in Gaza, and start bombing from north to south, and smuggle the Arab population to Sinai. You can even declare that this is the goal. You can also declare that every Arab who rescues prisoners Jews/bringing bodies of terrorists, etc., can enter Israel and obtain citizenship). It is even possible to imply that Israel is going to bomb the Gaza Strip with a nuclear bomb, also to scare and drive away the residents of Gaza. Another advantage: if the most militant side of the government demands it, and there are discussions about whether Israel is going to use nuclear weapons, and at the end of the Israeli action there will be “only” a “disengagement 2” plan in which all the residents of Gaza are deported to Sinai, it will not seem so extreme…
Advantages:
- Only a loss of territory is a loss as far as the Arabs are concerned, and therefore they will not want to initiate any more such actions - if they knew that for every Israeli killed they lose territory. By the way, in Israel’s wars, the Arabs refer to the war of liberation and the six-day war as their loss - because they lost territory in those wars, compared to the Yohak war, for example, even though Egypt lost, they refer to it as a victory, because there was no Israeli occupation of territory.
- Revenge for the murderous act.
- Even before the last action, we got used to there being terrorist incidents against Jews every day, and sometimes also seriously wounded and murdered. In this way, it is finally possible to get rid of the nests of murders such as Hvara who are swallowed up inside Israel, and this will save a lot of deaths and security resources in the future.
- There is now a short window of opportunity to do this: also in terms of the legitimacy of the action, in Israel and in the world.
- If the result of the war is that the Gaza Strip is emptied by the West, and they begin to establish an Israeli city there, and in addition, in Judea and Samaria only Ramallah and Taiba remain Arab, and all the rest become Israeli settlements, no one will argue who won and who lost the battle.
good luck!
( Dan Assolin )
Crucial missing context: Israel bombed the way out when people tried to take it.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Hamas has called on Palestinians to stay in their homes after Israel issued sweeping evacuation orders for almost half of Gaza’s more than 2.3 million people ahead of an expected ground offensive.
The Hamas authority for refugee affairs today told residents in the north of the territory to “remain steadfast in your homes and to stand firm in the face of this disgusting psychological war waged by the occupation”.
The UN humanitarian office (OCHA) said early on Friday that more than 400,000 people had already fled their homes in the Gaza Strip and 23 aid workers had been killed since the start of Israeli retaliatory strikes in response to the Hamas attack on Saturday.
A jury has convicted one Colorado police officer and acquitted another for the 2019 homicide of Elijah McClain, a 23-year-old whose death at the hands of law enforcement while walking home sparked international outrage and years of protests.
A Guardian investigation has found that a growing number of countries are passing anti-protest laws as part of a playbook of tactics to intimidate people peacefully raising the alarm about the climate.
The draw on Wednesday night ended a long stretch without a winner of the top prize and brought news media to Midway Market and Liquor in Frazier Park, a community of 2,600 residents about 75 miles north of Los Angeles.
The original article contains 954 words, the summary contains 224 words. Saved 77%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
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Crisis overload…cannot compute.
Boy, the AI was drinking when it made that summary.
I saw the worst summary I’ve ever seen on a post about a Firefox bug getting fixed recently after 22 years. The summary was like “the day after Firefox launched, this big got fixed!” And it had 10 upvotes
I was reading through it carefully for the issues till I got to the bit where it was explaining unrelated headlines. After that it started to spit out… whatever this was:
The draw on Wednesday night ended a long stretch without a winner of the top prize and brought news media to Midway Market and Liquor in Frazier Park, a community of 2,600 residents about 75 miles north of Los Angeles.
Between both sides, are there any military lor political leaders that care about Palestinian civilian lives in war? This whole thing is fucked.
