Haven’t had this issue yet. Firefox with ublock on Linux.
staged rollout
They’re rolling it out only for certain users.
I’m still waiting for my “AdBlOcKeR bAd 😭” popup, at this point I’m actually disappointed it hasn’t shown up yet.
I imagine, they stretch this out over a longer period, so no shitstorm forms…
I’ve been binging YouTube, preparing to disengage forever…
It’s been weeks now. The popup still hasn’t come up
I’m using ublock and firefox (on arch btw) if your curious
In my experience the popup comes up if and only if you have any custom blocking list enabled. Default uBlock filter lists are fine
Not true. I reset all my ublock settings to default and disabled any other adblockers like they recommended and I still got the popup. I then decided to use invidious instead.
weird, sticking with default lists fixed the issue for me and the moment I enabled any of the Easylist or Annoyances filters it come up again
Alright I’ve disabled easylist but now I’m receiving annoying sponsored widgets on my home screen and side bars so I might as well disable my adblocker at that point.
Same, but I figured out that on Plasma X11 they won’t show up while on Plasma Wayland they do… (was it random?)
I’m on Plasma Wayland and haven’t seen the popup, yet
WTF is with that URL. Only this bit seems required.
https://dev-to-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/i/weawg96nbplroggqwmuc.jpg
Yeah but the real question is, why the hell did you choose to look at the URL instead of the image itself?
It’s not such a bad idea to be in the habit of looking at URLs before you click on them generally, FYI. But in this case it wasn’t really a choice.
Nah I mean it literally just showed me a picture by default because OP put it as a ![] () format
Nah I mean it literally just showed me
That’s good to know. However, you asked:
Yeah but the real question is, why the hell did you choose
I didn’t choose, as I just showed you. What you saw is what I saw.
I use the same and got the popup yesterday
Update uBlock, reset filters to default, block your extensions and see if that helped. If things started working gradually start enabling extensions and check if popup started showing.
You likely have an extension that blocks too much and allows YouTube to detect adblocker.
I wanted to say the same but then remembered I’m using piped for a while now lol
I only got it on my desktop which has other addons too (blocked the popup with ublocker so i even forgot about it). Phone and tablet is still safe.
hasn’t shown up for me either. I mostly use invidious, but i just tried directly on youtube, and it works with an adblocker too.
Copy the URL, open it in a private window with ublock origin set to allowed in private windows. Can still view the video, and now they also can’t attribute it to your user account.
So they lose again.
Or just don’t ever sign in to YouTube and always clear cookies when you close the browser. And out of curiosity, why do people actually sign into YouTube? For “favorites” I just use my browsers bookmarks and it’s not like “hitting that bell” actually helps me because usually I won’t watch a just published video until I’m ready to actually watch something. So struggling to think of a reason to sign in except for the one time I need to increase the subscriber count for them. And even then, I promptly log out.
Like most things, it’s their recommendation engine that is actually pretty good. For as much as people complain about “the algorithm”, it’s useful enough that it surfaces unknown people constantly for me, and suggests things that I am interested in watching (metalworking videos, welding, machining, 3d printing, godot programming, etc.) Without an account you just get… normie bullshit clickbait.
For “favorites” I just use my browsers bookmarks
They don’t work over multiple devices though, unless you have an account for your browser I guess.
Firefox syncs all my bookmarks for me across all devices. So that might be the account thing you’re talking about.
I kind of like the recommendations that populate aligned with my sub interests, basically
Only thing I can think of is getting notified for new videos from youtubers you’re subscribed to and the convenience of saving the play position when you don’t finish a video
Because their algorithm is pretty damn good at recommending relevant stuff. For example, titanfall 2 got revived and I found a lot of small youtubers (<20k subs) making some incredibly good content through it. The secret is to click “not interested” on all the clickbait crap often enough and at some point it’ll learn.
Though I do use
on an android TV and block out crap like shorts altogether because google’s youtube app is unusable.
They can definitely still associate it to your household by IP though. Me and my roommates get video suggestions for things the others are interested in because of the IP tracking.
I think a VPN will then help with this.
Yikes lol
While they can track your IP for all sorts of nefarious purposes, they can’t and won’t associate it to use of an ad blocker if the ad blocker has successfully blocked their ads because they, by definition, don’t know that you’ve blocked them. If they did they would show the popup.
you can also use invidious or piped
If you’re not afraid of Docker you can even spin up your own instance of Invidious. You won’t get much in the way of recommendations, but you won’t have to worry about the site going down.
Be the frontend you want to see in the world.
When docker get their shit together and work on freebsd? Sure
That’s a way taller order than you might think. Docker has loads of kernel level integration that FreeBSD isn’t interested in supporting, also there are separate techs for similar purposes, like jails.
Yeah, so if projects don’t support freebsd I’m out. Tired of everyone’s fetish for docker, even Canonical have added freebsd style jails to ubuntu now
Sounds more like a BSD problem and less like a Docker problem.
cgroups are very different and much more powerful than freebsd jails. The server world is leaving freebsd for Linux.
Docker still sucks, though, and you should use podman instead.
The problem with podman is that we use stuff like Docker-compose and tilt at work, that require the docker daemon socket. I do try to use podman when possible, though. But yeah, I avoid Red Hat these days, that company is doomed.
I use kubernetes+containerd for my servers, which is neither Docker nor Podman.
Son, just say no to IBM
Podman to the rescue! Screw docker, podman is so much better and a quick google tells me there is a freebsd package of podman soooo
Good news! Apparently there’s a way to build Invidious for Podman, though it’s not exactly straightforward. That said, there’s an open issue to add official documentation for how to do it, so maybe that’ll get done. Eventually.
Is there something I am missing? I am using uBlock Origin on Firefox and Youtube works the same as always.
As with all changes at large tech companies, this change is being rolled out to a subsection of the whole userbase. As such, if you’re not seeing it yet, it might be because you just haven’t gotten into the rollout yet.
Or Firefox and uBlock are still managing to beat the countermeasures, who knows.
It’s how you boil a frog. They’re not gonna back down off of this. They decided a long time ago to maximize profitability at the cost of service degradation.
Rollouts are not made to boil frogs, they are made so that you can test the impact of changes, and crucially, quickly roll undesired changes back. It’s a great technique. This is important when you’re at Google-scale - any small mistakes will impact millions of people. The only realistic way to handle this is to roll changes out and monitor the changes for negative impacts - stuff like crashes and so on.
I agree that what they’re doing is boiling the frog, but rollouts have nothing to do with it.
Started on me today, but it looks like you can just remove the element that contains the message, tho
Why even use the offical site or app anyway?
Because hosting an invidious instance isn’t free, and I like to keep the strain off. I can only monetarily support so many tech habits!
What about FreeTube? Revanced? Grayjay? You don’t need to host it yourself!
I don’t host anything myself, a local Piped instance on the Desktop and Newpipe on Android serve me splendidly
I can only monetarily support so many tech habits!
I really feel you on that one though
I’m a bit confused by newpipe. Is it essentially a download manager with a nice GUI?
It’s pretty much a YouTube App. You can watch videos, have background play, download them, subscribe to channels and so on.
Imagine Revanced, except it’s its own project and not based on modifying the official app.
Because I have a family subscription. YT and YT music for the whole family, means my kids are ad free and managed. I use the heck out of it and can afford it.
I don’t pay for Spotify, and with the price hike Disney + is about to get the eye patch treatment.
But I really do use the heck out of YT, so for me it’s worth it.
But if you don’t see the value, do what you gotta do.
Fair enough, giving money to that corporation just feels very wrong to me. But I have to be fair here, the services Google offers are actually useful.
Not like some other mega-brands that just dick around and do fuck all
Oddly enough YouTube only seems to be ramping up its antiadbpocker campaign on their desktop version. The mobile version of the site works fine without ads.
STN Beta on my AndroidTV still seems to work fine adless, though, I usually just cast my phone youtube to that and it’ll just play completely adless…
I used AdGuard, but I let it disabled for YouTube and only use Enhancer for YouTube and SponsorBlock - haven’t got the notification, yet. Does it work for someone else or the notification just haven’t got to me, yet?
I use AdGuard on Firefox, and I’ve seen the pop up. So far I haven’t been able to get rid of it, but I can still close it and continue watching.
I also have custom blocking lists, Privacy Badger, tampermonkey and PiHole, so it might be a problem with one of those instead of AdGuard.
Not sure what’s going to happen with Vivaldi given that the browser is the ad blocker.
You can disable it on a per-site basis, just click on that shield icon on the left of the address field.
It can also be disabled globally from the settings.
People keep saying this but I guess I’m on the lucky slow end of the rollout because I haven’t had my adblock stop working yet.
But they’ve done this before, it’s just a cycle. If I have to, I’ll start using a new adblocker, or entirely diffent way to access the videos, once an option becomes available shortly, inevitably. No reason to worry about this long term IMO.
Man, I’m still waiting on Netflix to tell me my parents and I can’t use the same account. They asked for an email verification code one time and that’s been it.
Honestly I’m just kind of blue balled at this point. Just make me cancel already!
Spotify has been harassing me to get whatever the heck the duo crap is…literally only me uses it but I’m on the verge of cancelling from their full screen garbage
That’s too bad. Just in these last few days I’ve been messing around with free Spotify and I was wondering if it might be worth trying out paying for it.
What exactly is the full screen garbage you’re talking about?
This is pretty much it. Desktop, android. Don’t matter.
Telling me to upgrade to duo so I can share my login for whatever reason. It’s just annoying more then anything.
Ublock released an update that allowed it to keep working on YouTube.
When? I’m one video away from being blocked and I manually updated my ublock stuff like a week ago.
I had to re-update last night. I’ve heard it’s a bit of an arms race currently, so you might need to regularly update.
Personally I’m getting libredirect up and considering full abandonment of all the major platforms. I’m already on lemmy, I might as well move away from everything else that is that is going through enshittification.
This has pissed off a lot of people, including tech youtubers that have had to turn to alternative income sources like sponsors and patreon that are working on or promoting as blockers.
Youtube only serves ads on its own website and apps. Just saying. . .
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Shh
Does anyone really use youtube these days anyway? Its gone from a site where you might discover new and interesting things to a site full of clickbait trash and ads for other trash. Its gotten the point where if i see that a video i might otherwise watch is hosted on youtube, i just scroll past because I cant be bothered dealing with their site.
I’d be quite happy for it to just die off at this stage.
How am I supposed to catch max0r’s next video about John videogame?
Yes. People still use YouTube. You can tell by the fact that this post and tons like it exist.
Lol yes it’s one of the largest websites on the internet. Hundreds of millions of unique users browse it a month and due to the fact that anyone can upload to it the site is LOADED with unique, insightful, creative, and informative content.
If you cant find good content on youtube it’s probably more a you problem.
I use it to find content on hobbies I pursue. I have zero clickbait stuff.
I too mostly use it at this point to follow creators, hobby stuff still lives almost exclusively on Youtube for now
well it’s just that there’s a lot of good content creators on there
I find lots of entertainment in silly stuff, like debates about the earth being flat or not. As it turns out, the planet Earth might be an oblate spheroid. Who knew?!
Just because you don’t find anything of use to you, and keep clicking the click bait so it recommends more clickbait, doesn’t mean nobody else uses the site. I like to have silly shit running in the background while I work. Maybe you listen to music instead? It’s not like we all have to like the same things.
One word. Piped.
What I’ve been doing is using my account for subscriptions and such and having piped open in another tab, then to watch videos, right clicking on them instead of opening them, hitting copy link, and pasting that to the piped tab to quickly open them there.
There are userscripts that’ll open your videos in Piped for you.
You might like the libredirect addon, then. Also, you can have an account on Piped, so your subriptions are with you on any device
That’s a good work around. You can also right click and “open in private window” and it will work just fine.
If I had any programming ability above the level of a sloth I’d make a blocker called “Muffler” that basically separated out all the adstreams and made them think they were viewed and played in real time, but invisible to the user.
Shouting into the void, and nothing to be done about it as they’d look like they were being played.
In a vice versa way, that’s pi hole. The website makes ad requests to the DNS and pi hole says:
I use pihole. Pihole does not work for sites that serve ads from the same domain, like YouTube
How about creating a bot that decrypts the blob format in which YouTube vidoes are stored in, and upload them to a PeerTube instance.
We should call this instance PirateTube. No ads, and technically, since we are not making money out of it, it will be considered as fair usage.
Like, downloading the video files with yt-dlp and then uploading them? Or streaming, like what Piped/LibreTube do?
I personally have my own piped server, and don’t enter to youtube for anything. The only 2 things it can’t do are post comments and see live streams comments. No ads, no tracking, i can do whatever i want without google’s permission
Sounds like what adnauseam is doing. It loads ads hidden and clicks on some of them but I am not sure if it does that with YouTube ads or just blocks them.
So does this cause advertisers to lose money since their ads are being clicked but never viewed by human eyes? Because if so, I’ll install ad nauseum asap
Not for AdSense ads, like what YouTube uses. Click-Through Rate (CTR) is only used to determine how much of a cut Google gives to the ad hosts, the advertisers just bid for the spots. The advertisers can see the CTR metrics, and so they might be willing to bid more, but that’s not guaranteed.
So google makes money either way, and the advertisers spend money either way. The only difference is that your favorite websites and youtubers get paid too.
Hmmm well for some reason I was under the impression that ad nauseum can be used alongside uBO, but I see now that it can’t so I guess I’ll keep uBO since I’ve got a ton of custom filters, but this was insightful so thanks.
I thinkk the main idea behind ad naseum is to drown out any information you leave behind. Basically it hiides your data in a pile of useless and fake data that becomes useless.
Not a bad idea, but if possible, you want to skip loading the ad altogether, which is – to my understanding – what currently happens.
This is so inherently detectable, though, I’m amazed it worked for so long and that it’s still working now. Likely a consequence of offloading as much of YT onto the client side as possible, because if you’re doing anything server side how hard is it to require that the ad has at least downloaded before streaming the video?
The Spotify ripper “zotify” has an undetectable “realtime” mode that does basically what OP suggested. Instead of downloading every track as fast as possible, it pretends that it’s actually streaming and listening to them. Obviously it takes a lot longer to rip a whole album, but it’s a good idea.
I think Spotify ripping isn’t big enough that it’s actually needed at this point, but it’s good that they considered the potential for it.
I’m personally not a big fan of spotify ripping, the audio quality isn’t great and more annoying. If I were you I’d check out Soulseek or the alternative ui Nicotine+
I always thought the reason they don’t take any action, is exactly because adblockers would then work as the guy above described.
Companies posting ads would eventually become aware, that a not insignificant portion of viewers don’t even see the ads they are paying for. I don’t see how this won’t cause a backlash… i guess youtube calculated that in and thinks it’ll be worth it any way.
Good point, if you’re counting ad impressions and billing accordingly then it’s better to simply lose the impression than bill the customer for displaying a “ghost ad”.
However this is exactly what’s happening to sponsors with SponsorBlock, their section gets skipped and nobody knows (well, the channel owner knows from the watch stats, but does the sponsor demand those stats, do they only pay for clickthroughs on the referral link, I have no idea how the YT sponsor ecosystem works)
They don’t need any other information than referral link clicks/signups and video views, one of which they have metrics on, the other is public information. A SponsorSkip user is equal in their eyes to a person who isn’t interested in the product.
There was an app that did that.
Google found it and killed it.
