It’s funny because I wasn’t even using a 3rd party app so this didn’t really affect me but it was better to leave reddit then instead of waiting for something that will affect me. That and I love open source.
Lemmy will dethrone reddit once you are able to google a question and the Lemmy link is at the top as opposed to reddit
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Even then, Reddit has accumulated so much technical advice over the years, I hope I can still find archived posts this way, if ever it truly does crash and burn.
What’s stopping someone from just copying the reddit history and building that knowledge base as under the hood of Lemmy?
And Linux will dethrone windows.
I wish they were true but reality is that people will accept just about any and all abuse and stay with the crap despite sometimes getting angry about it.
Whelp, better get to asking questions… Someone ask me a question to an answer someone may want to search for
Why is my poop green?
Your poop is green because you consumed something with food coloring in it.
Is there anyway to control how high I want my android phone to charge? I would like to set it to 90%.
Samsung phones have an option in the battery settings called “charge protection” and it makes your phone stop charging at 85%. Look through your battery settings to see if you have a similar option.
If you have root you may want to use something called ACC (Advanced Charging Controller). You can use its official app, ACCA, to install it. Very customizable.
Not without rooting it or the manufacturer including a custom option for it, but if it has adaptive charging, you can set an alarm and it will charge the phone up to 80% and then wait to charge it the rest of the way to coincide with the alarm so that it isn’t at 100% for a long time.
I was so insulted when I realized I could never root my phone. Fuck Verizon!
What is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
African, or European?
Well I don’t know that
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What’s Ligma?
Ligma baaawwllls lmao goddim
Oh nooooo ya gawt me😭
I’ll start with something wholesome:
What’s the best way to make someone smile?
Punch someone they hate.
Just punch Trump then. This will make a lot of people smile.
I’m the leftest leftist ever to left but had to downvote for such low effort
Apply your thumbs in an upward motion to the corners of their mouth. Use force if necessary
Reddit also had the ability to just type in my address bar “/r/obscurefandom” and be taken directly to the subreddit for it. Lemmy doesn’t have those smaller subs yet and you have to hunt for the right instance if it does.
Even TV shows that have been off air for a decade often have a thriving community. Merlin, the BBC show, has several posts per day. Similarly with Smallville. Lemmy’s communities are smaller and tend to be broken up across instances.
Reddit will have active subs for specific board games. The general board games magazine on Lemmy has 1 post a month.
So ya, if I want to read comments on the latest episode of Loki to see what things people picked up on that I missed Reddit is currently the only place to find that.
I feel like there needs to be instance aggregation for Lemmy to really work in the long run (and really this is probably true of the fediverse in general). Having to add communities across multiple instances, and not being able to browse them in a centralized way, really detracts from the experience. On Reddit, I subbed to the stuff I wanted and just lived off that feed. With Lemmy, I feel like I have to stay in unfiltered view to get anything of interest–the fragmented niche communities are just too limiting.
Add in people posting the same thing across the various “same community” on all the various instances for extra silliness.
Yes, Lemmy is Reddit with extra steps as long as you can’t click this /c/books And see, by default, every books community , on every server at once in a single place.
The Redditors who made it here, saw this and realized the fediverse promise, was just bait.
alternatively r/obscurefetish
I just started using lemmy today, so I definitely could be wrong. But doesn’t the website browse.feddit.de kind of do this for you already?
This illustrate the fatal flaw with Lemmy.
The fediverse is made pointless because now a community only exists on one server at a time, instead of on every server.
It is Reddit, with extra steps
Which is never going to happen because you can’t click this /c/books
And fine an agglomeration of all /c/books on all lemmy servers Ina single location.
This cripples any network effect and any benefice of decentralization and federation
Bro, it’s so fucking frustrating that I need to be subbed to 5 different Android communities just to get my news.
I can’t sub to just one because I miss news if I do.
My only hope is that Boost brings multi-reddit support to Lemmy, so I can just click on “Android” and get the news from all 5 Android communities.
“multi Reddit” like feature do not fix the problem.
First, like on Reddit, less than 5% of users will use it as a non default feature which needs to be configured.
Second, even of those people who use the feature, they will have different sets of differently configured “multireddit”.
The end result is a fragmented audience that has no shared experience and never aglomerates to critical mass.
If you have 1725 /c/books communities, that does not make one cohesive books community. These people have nothing in common.
Practical end result, one books community on one Lemmy instance, is “the one big community” and almost every other gets 1 post per year on average, which is never seen by anyone.
For every big community, every once in a while, the moderation dictators sell out or otherwise piss off the community enough that it fragments. That works as well as the current transition from Reddit to Lemmy.
Each schism doesn’t create a new, better community, it creates a smaller, less active community at the expense of the larger one.
There needs to be a single point of agglomeration, which works by default for any community name.
And moderation needs to be something dive by every user and moderation needs to be a filter that you subscribe to.
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It was something like this as far as I remember.
Thabk
Yeah, our server sucks… Sry broh
I deleted my reddit account.
Heil spez
I was mostly on Reddit for hockey game threads. Lemmy sucks for that at the moment, so… I went to discord. Fuck spez
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Eventually we should move to something like Matrix or at least Revolt (still waiting on an actual Android app for that one)
Oh, I hadn’t looked for hockey on discord Say what you will about reddit, I do kinda miss r/canucks, the happiest group of sad folks on the internet!
Any suggestions for a discord newbie on finding hockey communities?
Still a lot of stuff that’s not moved over either as fedirated isn’t as esay to use yet or reddit being established
I still feel a strong pull towards r/worldnews. c/world@lemmy.world is juuuust not quite as good, content-wise. edit: !world@lemmy.world Still new to lemmy, lol...Okay how did you make the text Like that?
Start and stop the message with three backticks on a line on their own:
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This stuff gets rendered in fixed width with preserved whitespace.
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ah yes c/world@lemmy.world
also why are you typing in codeblocks
Because it preserves whitespace.It’s also pretentious. Just saying lol
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Do you know of another way to preserve white space?
Meanwhile I’m here on dark mode and none of you have any white space so it clearly doesn’t work
Unless you’re typing code why is it important?
It's an experiment I've been trying for about two weeks, now. I am using whitespace to make written English easier to read. I put one sentence per line. Long sentences are broken into multiple lines according to natural breaks in the sentences. (I try to aim for an 80 column width.) Indentation is used to signal the continuation of a sentence. Basically, I am treating English like a programmer would treat code. As an interesting and unexpected corollary, the English is much easier to edit, and diffs are way cleaner. (I'm editing this in an external dedicated text editor.)It’s less readable on mobile clients because code blocks don’t linebreak automatically. I have to side-scroll your comments to read them in full, so the only feeling I get from your experiment is slight annoyance.
Raw text preserves whitespaces, so if I wanted them, I’d just show that instead. I don’t get it.
I’m not a programmer, but I think I see what you’re trying to do. I have ADHD and less-than-ideal eyesight. This is easier to read, comprehension-wise, in that I’m not getting “lost” in the text and losing my place and having to re-read paragraphs; but the font you’re using is a little blurrier than the default (I think it’s the serifs) and is a little more difficult for me to physically read. Maybe increasing the font size or changing to a different font would work better?
The 80-column width, as some have pointed out, can’t really be counted on, unfortunately. But I think this is neat. Reminds me of greentext.
I might try something like this in my own notes for work.
I find it amusing, thank you
Yes, but reading this on moblie is complete and utter ass. Rule 1 of formatting, don’t force others to adhere to your formatting style.
In what way do you consider it easier to read raw HTML than it is to read properly-formatted text? This text displays all of its tags on kbin and it’s a nightmare to read.
Why are you wanting to preserve white space in your comments? Maybe it’s just how it shows up on my screen, but I’m not seeing or understanding why or what the usage was in your initial comment here, or what the benefit was.
To be clear, I’m not judging or anything, especially since it’s not like you’re hurting anyone! Ultimately, you do yo thang! I’m just curious and interested to understand where you’re coming from. Is it just for funsies?
Look there is a peasant beneath us!
As per usual, it’s a matter of content.
I can’t (and shouldn’t have to) carry the entire weight of a fandom on my shoulders. Until there’s more activity here on those subjects, I have to at least keep an eye on Reddit.
What I always do when I can however, is I try to do POSEO to raise awareness: by which I mean, I post my opinions or ideas or stories in my own site (or in my Masto main) first, and only crosslink on Reddit. I was thinking of doing the same with reply comments as well, but dunno how much would that promote interaction.
Fandoms have trouble here as well. Take something like baseball. There are so many communities to follow across instances that even if a Fandom has a following, it’s fragmented across multiple sites.
It’s also the toxic community.
I was called a racist and holocaust denier because I asked someone how they expect YouTube servers to be paid for if you refuse to pay for premium, and don’t want to watch ads.
My comments were downvoted like crazy, and the person who called me a racist holocaust denier was upvoted…
Again, all because I asked a question about how servers should be paid for. What the actual fuck? Reddit is insanely toxic, but Lemmy takes the cake.
https://ibb.co/pvk0HWv https://ibb.co/bsPRfyZ https://ibb.co/0Mxd8rr You were being a smartass and then got one-guyed. The community on lemmy seems generally positive with a few crazies, just like everywhere.
Look in that thread and there are plenty of people who ask “how will youtube keep the servers up without ads though?” with reasonable responses such as: torrent-esque video sharing people donating to creators and youtube taking a cut or reasonable issues like: ads cause me a lot of stress and I am not wealthy, does this mean I can never watch a video again? Or read an article or see any online content? Not wanting to support billion dollar megacorps
Getting responded to in kind by 1 guy is not a toxic community, everywhere I’ve seen people ask a question in a normal way 99% of the time they get normal responses
Yes, because calling me a racist Holocaust denier, and having those comments upvoted is very non toxic.
It takes other users to upvote those comments.
:note: I know this isn’t the point of your comment but I wanted you to be able to have a non-insulting conversation on the topic.
Premium is more than it should be and ads on YouTube arent handled very well i.e. Obnoxious
I watch adless on my phone, but still use the default app to stream to my TV and generally let the ads play through.
23 dollars a month for 2 people on a family plan is just nuts, though. If they had a 2 person option that was like 17-18 then I’d probably get it.
I agree that the pricing doesn’t make sense unless you can split it, which is what I do.
Premium is $25 in Canada. You can add 5 people to your plan. That makes it $5 per month for each of us.
Personally I don’t buy cable or satellite TV, so I get most of my enjoyment from YouTube. So to me $5 per month is nothing, especially if you have something like Spotify which you can cancel and use YouTube Music, which is included in that $5.
If you have no friends and you’re the only one footing the bill, I agree that the pricing is a lot. At that point you just have to deal with the annoying ads.
I hate ads as much as anyone, but my question still remains for anyone who demands on blocking all ads and refusing to pay for premium, how do you expect servers and creators to be paid?
I know Google can technically afford it, but that’s not how businesses are run. You can’t take profits from one department to make up for the losses in another department, and as we know bandwidth is extremely expensive, and Google hosts an unbelievable amount of data, and free, too.
Like I’ve mentioned in the past, I have a bunch of videos uploaded to YouTube to share with family, and they are all private. Therefore Google is paying to store my videos, while making $0 from them, as they are not public and making any ad revenue.
I also know that Google is bad. Corporations suck. All that jazz. I just don’t understand why most of Lemmy users think everything should be free, but when asked about how these things are supposed to get funded, they go silent.
Lemmy itself won’t be around long if users refuse to donate to their instance, and refuse to view ads. Even if someone is hosting an instance in their basement, the cost of internet, replacement drives, maintenance, and electricity all add up.
As someone who rarely ever uses YouTube, $25 would be fucking bonkers to pay monthly for no ads. Imo a decent idea to explore would be x amount of minutes that are ad free per month, then after you hit that limit you get given ads. You’d have to be signed into an account, any instances with no account logged in get ads by default.
Another idea is to add lower tiers to the available plans. 5 people can sign in on the current option? Is there a cheaper plan that only allows linking 1 account? This could even tie in with the previous idea and have certain plans that give you x minutes of watching adless per month.
I’m sure there are plenty of other options out there. In fact I wouldn’t be bothered having to watch an ad before a video (or a midroll in a longer video) but the experiences I’ve had with using YouTube frequently involve me pulling up a certain scene within a movie or something and getting 2-3 ads that are a minute long each, unskippable, and potentially midrolls in there if the video is over 5 minutes. It just makes me close the video and think “yeah fuck that, I don’t need to watch that scene anymore”.
Overall point: the ads would be fine if they weren’t so excessive and intrusive
There is a cheaper option for just a single account. 13.99 in the US. I think that’s a reasonable price and would pay it if it was just me. I just wish there was an option between 1 person and a whole family.
as we know bandwidth is extremely expensive
No. You very obviously don’t know how bandwidth is handled for large providers. They don’t pay per gb, and instead have peering agreements with other networks. Google generally doesn’t have to pay these other networks, as Google has the web applications that the other networks’ customers expect to be able to use.
Peering agreements are in no way free no matter what company you work for, what the hell are you on about?
Sorry I meant storage, which was apparent by my following sentence “and Google hosts an unbelievable amount of data”
I hate ads as much as anyone, but my question still remains for anyone who demands on blocking all ads and refusing to pay for premium, how do you expect servers and creators to be paid?
I’m pretty sure it’s 2023 and this has already been discussed and solved ad nauseam, so I’m also sure all I’m going to say here is just repeated from elsewhere, but:
First of all, “creators” (not artists! There’s a semantic difference) are not going to get paid better just because you pay for YT Premium. Premium pays Youtube, not the creators pleading not to be demonetized. If you’re asking how are creators going to be paid, the answer is simple: directly. If you set up a service without intermediaries, for example a direct wire transfer, or at least something close to it like a Patreon, you get all of the coins and people who want to pay you-but-not-Youtube (or whatever platform) face a better incentive.
Second, stuff like gift cards.
Third, and this is something I’ve never seen any naysayer deal with properly: the same methods that have existed before can still work now. I don’t remember ever paying rent for Usenet, or IRC, or BBSes, yet those things were literally plentiful, if I so much as lifted a rock in a cropped 8-bit-color grayscale PNG, the tranparency layer had a link to a BBS. And part of the issue is that there’s a “attention deficit oooh shiny syndrome” going on where instead of using vintage-timer, battle-tested, lightweight, low dependency, cheap payment, low maintenance protocols and services for ensuring persistence and continuation of communities, we are for some weird reason insisting that whatever community launches next is a Perfect Imitation fo Youtube, or else. Such is the case of Matrix: for all its promises, IRC and XMPP are much better battle-tested and for the monthly price (and monthly annoyance) of 1 Matrix server you can run about 25 XMPP servers, or likely over 300 IRC servers.
And the key here is that it’s the devs who have to take the turn return towards simpler, better tech. Devs gotta lead by example. Users (masses of) are obviously not going to be the ones to do it.
Creators can see how much they make from premium subscribers vs ad views. They do make more from people who pay for premium.
Why do you say they don’t? Like I’m curious where you got that from, when it’s blatantly wrong?
Wow they sound like they came straight out of Twitter. Though one reason why I use FOSS and barely donate is because our currency isn’t that powerful. I see it in the way people say that self-hosted is cheap (probably from Europe or America) but it’s actually crazy expensive for me (Philippines). Our average monthly income is around 400$. Even if I were to donate a substantial part of it, anyone in the first world would barely gain anything and I would have lots to lose. Unless if they’re from another developing country.
Even if you barely donate, you’re donating more than most users. Everyone should help in whatever capacity they can and there isn’t any shame in not being able to contribute as much as others. I’d love to see how many donations some of the FOSS purists here make haha. I bet a lot of the real toxic FOSS bros don’t contribute anything.
I need better moderator tools and then I’ll move my whole community
Mod tools only became necessary when communities became larger. I’m sure you’ll be fine with what’s available when most communities start off small. Hell the Star wars prequel/sequel memes subs actually combined into one sub to keep their communities big enough to survive off Reddit and they’re doing just fine.
I appreciate your optimism, but I’ve run the numbers and that’s always a sticking point. It might be a tenth of the subscribers that move over, but it’ll be a 20th of the number of mods that move over. And I moderate a rowdy bunch!
Well I’m like 70% here, and the last 30% is through a cracked Reddit client without ads or tracking (shhh, I’ll never admit that it exists again)
I may protest the cost of groceries, but I still buy groceries.
And I’m finding the exact same type of BS here on Lemmy as I do on Reddit.
Honestly, I’ve found Lemmy to be generally worse than Reddit since it seems to be where all the banned redditors go once people get sick of their shit.
Not entirely the same. We don’t have a apex dictator here
Holy false equivalence Batman. You don’t need reddit to live…
You can grow your own food, can you not, Robin?
A lot of subs never really got a foothold outside of Reddit. I tried to do what I could and I’m still trying my best but I’m only one guy and I’m not good at making content. Barely anyone from the BrandoSando subs came, the incremental games community gave up before it even started, no community that I know has had a successful offshoot in the fediverse.
Never been part of that community personally, but thanks for helping to support the platform. Even if you’re not seeing much traction, it’s appreciated. What would you think of picking the most engaging Reddit content and migrate it here to help boost community size? Or maybe posting to Reddit with a watermark/credit leading to your Lemmy community?
I was a frequent visitor of the BrandoSando subs. I just haven’t found anything over here, though. Got any links? I’ll join up and try to contribute, but I’m like you. I’m not great or consistent in content creating either.
It’s on https://sffa.community. But that’s another problem. I think a lot of communities besides the main ones on here thought they’d just make a community and people would start posting. They didn’t post anything to bring people in and they didn’t know to go federate their community with other instances. The most active communities here are, !sffgaming@sffa.community, which is me, !brandonsanderson@sffa.community, !imaginarycosmere@sffa.community, and !cosmere@sffa.community .
Thank you! My biggest issue has been I just don’t know how to look for them. I’ve tried searches, but I’m still searching like I would for a subreddit.
Yeah, it can be tricky. This is probably one of the biggest issues with the fediverse.
Same with a lot of the subs I was at on Reddit. Stable Diffusion is no where near as active as Reddit’s.
yeah, the sheer breadth of obscure topics that were able to form a sizeable enough group on reddit is so fragile and special and hard to replicate. such a shame.
Reddit didn’t start that specific, the best thing to grow Lemmy is be active in broad communities, not brandosando but books. When books grows large enough then a sanderverse community can be spun off, but trying to be over specialized just dilutes the users into small inactive communities.
I think that’s a very good point.
Lol it took me way too long to realize you guys were talking about Brandon Sanderson
This right here. Reddit started with very general based topics and only later did smaller niche subs take off.
Lemmy will get there. It’s just a matter of time and it’s only been a few months since the Great Reddit Migration of '23.
By this time next year, or maybe 18 months out, once instances become normalized and settled, with user tools to help find and organize them, Lemmy will then start to cause large dents in Reddit’s user base.
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You can just use ChatGPT for the same effect because only bots post on reddit now /s
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It’s a war of attrition. Slow and steady will win this race.
Lemmy, just like Mastodon has seen spikes followed by users leaving. But every spike leaves more users on Lemmy/Mastodon than previously.
Truthfully, in the event another Reddit Exodus, which will happen, we need to try and be more of a content-oriented system during that era. Making more posts and focusing on adding to niches.
Reddit is about Niche communities and Content Saturation. Lemmy isn’t really about that, but it can be for moments at a time to pull users in. At some point we’ll reach a critical mass of users that leads to easier justification for new users to join.
We just need a group of extremely disorganized and disagreeable people to organize and and agree on this.
oh no
I think Lemmy would either need to find a way to wean Redditors off of their dopamine machine or replace that dopamine machine long-term to sustain an exodus from Reddit. Either that, or Reddit will need to break their dopamine feedback loop. There are some cracks showing, and that might have already killed the platform in the long term, but it’ll keep going from pure momentum for a while. Maybe as long as months or years.
Seems like there’s more sexists and racists than I used to see over there, which is definitely offputting. I’ve found communities that are supportive of thoughtful discussion are more appealing, and Reddit definitely lacks that lately, outside of some small, relatively niche communities.
Jokes on you, I get dopamine boosts on lemmy as well.
Another hurdle is getting game devs to treat Lemmy instances for their games as official points of contact, which is definitely something reddit still has that Lemmy doesn’t, unfortunately.
I got questionable game jam games if you want them lol
I like your optimism but theres not a lot of great examples of the little guys winning lately. I’m not sure exactly how, but I predict things end badly for Lemmy. Just seems like a more likely outcome in today’s world. Guessing reddit does ok everyone just ends up a bit more miserable than before. Sorry for being a turd, I just think your prediction is statistically unlikely.
Except Lemmy isn’t a single Lemmy.com that will one day run out of money and implode into nothingness.
Lemmy, Mastodon, and other ActivityPub based Fediverse Networks are muliti-node systems.
This is just pure nihilism without a hint of thought put into it. Nothing short of the world exploding and human annihilation will kill Lemmy, And even then, there are bots.
Bonkers. There is a critical mass that keeps people willing to support it. I can run an original Quake server and find a few people to play with, but distrubuted multinode systems don’t mean a damn without a critical mass user base. Lemmy is far from bulletproof.
This is Apples to Oranges.
Quake is dead because modern and frequently updated options exist, even 1-1 like Xonotic.
The alternative to Lemmy is Reddit which will only continue to enshittify.
A more apt comparison is Bullentin boards.
Bulletin boards still exist in the modern era, and are in frequent use, despite their age.
I’m not suggesting this social media format will die, it’s just likely that a corporate entity will develop a lemmy alternative that becomes more popular and causes fatal atrophy or Reddit will get new leadership and Lemmy hopefuls will cross back over if content development here is slower than the collective patience. I’m pro Lemmy FYI, I just don’t understand the unbridled optimism about it’s future.
Reddit also gets a little bit worse every spike, too. There are few mods remaining on Reddit who are doing anything more interesting for their communities than basic spam removal. Automod does all the work when all the largest subs just repost the same content and fake stories anyway.
It’s not like going to implode or anything anytime soon but the quality (from my perspective at least) has totally flatlined since June because why would anyone in their right mind invest creative energy into cultivating a unique community? I think that eventually a Lemmy community will pop up that simply couldn’t exist on Reddit and will serve to illustrate why I believe this model is better.
yea probably a illegal one
LOL I was thinking something with a structure and functionality that’s impossible to have on Reddit. But you’re probably not wrong either.
There is still some new content (rocket league videos come to mind) that is hard to move to a federated platform, because video streaming is expensive.
I’m cool
