The Israeli government on Monday screened for 200 members of the foreign press some 43 minutes of harrowing scenes of murder, torture and decapitation from Hamas’s October 7 onslaught on southern Israel, in which over 1,400 people were killed, including raw videos from the terrorists’ bodycams.
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The footage was collected from call recordings, security cameras, Hamas terrorists’ body cameras, victim dashboard cameras, Hamas and victims’ social media accounts, and cellphone videos taken by terrorists, victims and first responders. Over 1,000 civilians were slaughtered by the terrorists, and at least 224 people were abducted.
In semi-related news, the IDF claim to be holding over 1000 bodies of Hamas terrorists who entered Israeli territory on October 7th.
Wow, that must have been really hard to watch.
When you have a bunch of online edgelords constantly denying atrocities, this is what’s necessary, and I definitely applaud the journalists for having the stomach to watch this kind of stuff so that I don’t have to.
And before someone brings it up, I know it’s frustrating that truth is hard to reliably determine in war, but if your position really hinges on whether the neck of a murdered baby is intact or not, the plot has been thoroughly and utterly lost. And there are photos of burnt and bloodied dead children out there if you really care to look.
The world didn’t care about the videos of dead Palestinians for the last decade, will they care about these too?
I know many people who care about Israel’s subjugation of the Palestinians. That doesn’t mean I’m going to try and brush off this complete shitshow from Hamas.
nothing happened when so-and-so government killed a journalist, they all do it, it’s no big deal.
IDF claim to be holding over 1000 bodies of Hamas terrorists who entered Israeli territory on October 7th.
This claim doesn’t appear to be in your article. I’ve been looking for a source about the estimated number of Hamas that entered on the 7th.
I’ve seen a few estimates. Some sources have said 1,500. The one I saw today was reported on Channel 12’s live feed (hebrew warning) reported at 10:45.
Google translate spits out:
In addition to this, the IDF spokesman noted that the army has over a thousand dead bodies and prisoners among the Hamas terrorists, and that “this figure indicates the nature of the fighting in the Otef, the heroism of the fighters, civilians and the standby units.” Brigadier General Hagari added that 14 trucks with aid were brought into the Strip Humanitarian, where the emphasis is that fuel does not enter the strip. In the northern sector, the IDF eliminated eight terrorist squads that tried to launch anti-tank missiles in the last day. Since the beginning of the fighting, 20 terrorist squads of Hezbollah have been eliminated.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-rcna121645
you may have to ctrl + f “1,000” The link is a little squirrelly about scrolling to the right place.
I think I found it.
They seem to let you link to the correct place if you use the share button:
He added that Israel was holding more than 1,000 Hamas militants, both dead and alive.
If Israel has 1000, I wonder how many went back to Gaza after the attack. It’s probably sizeable given how many hostages they had.
Yes, sorry about that.
did hamas do israel a propaganda favor? they needed one. fuck them both, murderous dickbags
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seems like a lot of words to say you support violence
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You seriously should tone down your hate a notch man.
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Journalists were not permitted to record the screening, which took place on a closed military base.
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Yeah, I feel you. I don’t believe in civilian deaths in Gaza on the other hand. These are all actors, you know. Very high production value though.
I’m sure the IDF is an unquestionably trustworthy source.
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Yeah there is no conspiracy here only arrogance and party politics involving West Jordan.
I’m saying I find it hard to believe that Hamas is equipping fighters with body cams to document atrocities, and I’m saying that the presentation of these videos works way too well to justify the IDF’s campaign for me to just accept it without independent corroboration. If this was being reported by Haaretz and Al Jazeera, I’d be less inclined to doubt it because neither of those outlets seem particularly inclined to unquestioningly support the Israeli government’s narrative.
I mean, when American cops present body cam footage, the first thing people look for is the edits. This footage was shown without providing journalists a way to study it further.
Cool, now let’s see the bodycam footage from IDF soldiers.
Oh, that doesn’t fill a propaganda purpose to show IDF soldiers killing civilians and children, does it?
Hey, here’s a thought: there is no number of civilians killed by a terrorist organization that can justify the gov’t killing of thousands of civilians and non-combatants. If Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists for murdering Israelis, then so is the whole fucking gov’t of Israel for murdering Palestinian non-combatants with indiscriminate bombing.
To expand on this, if you knew that there was a murderer in a crowd of 20 people, would you say that the gov’t had the right and duty to mow down that crowd with machine gun fire in order to prevent that person from killing again? Because that’s what the Israeli gov’t is doing.
If Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists for murdering Israelis, then so is the whole fucking gov’t of Israel for murdering Palestinian non-combatants with indiscriminate bombing.
If there was indiscriminate bombing, the Gaza Strip would be gone already and they would use bunker buster bombs to destroy the tunnels.
So what do you suggest that Israel should do with the constant rocket attacks still coming from Gaza? Are they supposed to ignore the continuous attacks on their civilians?
Israel also made Hamas an offer: Release all hostages and turn in the terrorists that committed the massacres on October 7th.
If there was indiscriminate bombing
So it’s targeted bombing that has killed 2500 children so far in this past two weeks? You’re saying that Israel is intentionally targeting children? You realize that’s worse, right?
I’d suggest that they return the land that they stole from Palestinians, dismantle the settlements and outposts on occupied land, and end the blockades in Gaza. And then punish their citizens that attacks Palestinians, burn Palestinian homes and olive groves, and seize Palestinian land. And hey!, maybe gave Palestinians a real vote in the knesset, since they seem so opposed to a two-state solution. As it stands, the overwhelming majority of Palestinians do not have a say in their own governance.
Are Palestinians supposed to ignore the constant attacks against them by Israelis, and by the IDF? Why do you expect Palestinians to turn the other cheek, but not Israel?
You take power from Hamas by giving the people what the people want, and what they deserve. You remove their cause of action from them. You agree to their reasonable demands, and you share power with them. You try to correct the historic injustices perpetuated against them by the Israeli government.
But Israel won’t do that, because the far-right politicians that are in power–and the majority of the people that keep voting them into power–equate anything that is anti-Zionist to being anti-semitic.
We see this same thing in the US with black people, with Native Americans. When they protest peacefully, they’re ignored. When they protest violently, they’re thugs and murderers. There’s never any real interest by those in power in correcting the injustices that led to the protests in the first place.
If Hamas and Hezbollah are terrorists for murdering Israelis, then so is the whole fucking gov’t of Israel for murdering Palestinian non-combatants with indiscriminate bombing.
And with the big difference that no one is asking the west to support Hamas, they’re already labeled terrorists and heavily restricted, while the government of Israel wants to maintain pleasant status within the world while still doing terrorism.
Utilitarianism would lead you to that decision, you can justify any atrocity with it.
And here we are, in the west, justifying the atrocities that Israel is committing, has committed in the past, and will likely commit in the future, because Hamas manages to commit significantly lesser atrocities. We applaud the disproportionate responses of Israel, while condemning Hamas. We then also applaud the provocations of Israel, and condemn the responses of Hamas.
…And, of course, we pretend that Israel didn’t create Hamas, because they were afraid of the growing political power of Fatah and the PLO, and the calls for a two-state solution. Kinda like how the US created what became the Taliban by funding the mujahideen…
