• leaskovski@kbin.social
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    You look over there, and then you look at the comments in here. It’s makes you wonder if the human race will ever live in peace. Shame on us all.

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      ignorance is like a chaotic river you’re trying to paddle through without a paddle. Anger is a sin. It takes wisdom and discipline to not let your emotions rule you.

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        Yeah clearly anyone who can afford a vacation deserves to be kidnapped raped brutalized and paraded through the streets before being left to die as a hostage over 3 weeks.

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        It’s so hard to fight for the Palestinian people when soulless monsters like you show up to represent the cause. It’s becoming harder and harder to figure out who is anti-apartheid, and who wants another Holocaust.

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        If you think what happened to this girl was justified, not only are you broken, but you are no different than the people who support the genocide of Palestinians.

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        Not that any death is worth more or less than another, but it is surreal to know that the people killed at the music festival were privileged young people completely removed from the conflict, and most of the people killed in Gaza are poverty stricken children and starving adults.

        War is ugly and unfair.

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        Could it be because of never-ending attacks against civilians because they lost multiple wars yet refuse to negotiate for a viable peace?

        Nah, must be because the Jews are mean. 🙄

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          yet refuse to negotiate for a viable piece?

          Look at any colonized people who have made peace on their colonizer’s terms for why they might not want to do that.

          Let’s see here, just off the top of my head:

          Native Americans, Native Australians, Native South Africans.

          To be fair, Palestine already resembles the reservations and slums the native people I mentioned have been forced into by their colonizers.

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            I feel like you are missing the line between fighting for their freedom, and publicly raping innocent concert goers to death a bit, though. I completely understand them lashing out. I will never understand the targets that they chose to lash out at. It’s not smart from a strategic standpoint, even.

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            Well if you stick to that braindead logic to justify terrorism you’re just going to get bombed with no support from modern nations.

            When you declare a genocide on a group of people don’t be surprised when they fight back.

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    So nice that she was able to travel from Germany to party in Israel.

    I wonder what the travel logs for Gazans are like, and why that is.

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    We have all seen the video of her broken body being paraded through Gaza and the people spitting on her. Hamas did that and they brought death and destruction to Gaza.

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    Critical reading is the only skill we need to teach in school. We are clearly failing. This is getting ridiculous.

    The IDF confirmed Shani’s death. The IDF has been caught lying already.

    Shani’s mother who as I understand it has not actually seen the evidence told a news station “a piece of her skull was found”

    Remember Shani’s mother said just a few weeks ago “Shani is alive”

    This is far from actually confirmed.

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    Tragic. Her poor mother stuck not knowing for 3 weeks… my heart goes out to them.

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      Tragic. Her poor mother stuck not knowing for 3 weeks… my heart goes out to them.

      Yes, more tragic than this mother wearing her baby in her arms smashed by a - supposed - legal entity.

      A civilian life is a civilian life but here, it is not me who breaks the balance! Disgusting!

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        Take a breath. This is a human life that ended. Have respect and don’t diminish the loss. One day you will die too, and you would want people to treat your passing with respect and honor, not a talking point.

        There are thousands of other threads you can hash out the unfairness of apartheid, and the realities of struggle, this isn’t the right place for that.

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          I am not diminishing her death. At this stage, it is indecent to talk about her death - and use it by the way in the most grossy way - while the Israeli army is stomping civilians, like deaf.

          If they wanted to save her, the approach would have been:

          1. to cease bombing OR
          2. be real men and going on the field, not killing kids.
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            This is a human life, don’t twist her death into your talking point, that is disrespectful to her memory and to her family.

            Go to literally any other world news post and start a argument there. You can make the same talking points.

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        more tragic than this mother wearing her baby in her arms smashed by a - supposed - legal entity.

        can you point to the specific sentence where they even implied this, or are you actually just throwing a tantrum because someone said ‘man getting your daughter tortured and murdered must suck’

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        If you’re going to equate the dead children in Gaza with Hamas, you might as well say this lady “earned” it on account of the policies of the Israeli far right.

        There’s no such thing as “earning” the mass murder of civilians.

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          Way to equate self-defense with cold-blooded medieval murder. Israel didn’t start this but they sure as hell will finish it.

          Hamas did earn a military reprisal, and they’re hiding among civilians. Civilians who voted them into power. Let’s not pretend that they don’t share responsibility to some degree.

          Maybe having lots of kids and remaining in Gaza where your government is literally a terrorist organization isn’t the best idea to keep children safe.

          I think we all know the real point is to maximize civilian and child casualties so that they can make Israel look like bad guys in the press. Hamas wanted people to ignore evacuation orders and stay in buildings as they were being bombed.

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            Hamas has kept power for almost two decades without an election, of which over 50% of the population of Gaza was too young to vote in, on account of them not being born.

            Innocent people are dying because Israel propped up the terrorist Hamas to prevent a real, peaceful government from forming and bringing forward a two country solution.

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              And no one cared about the terrorist regime - especially those who don’t have to live under Hamas and yell “Free Palestine”. Everyone liked Hamas well enough as long as they kill some jews once in a while.

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        Hamas earned this, not the rest of the innocent Palestinians who never had a choice on who represented them. The innocent Israeli citizens didn’t earn this either.

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          They probably should have left long ago when the Egyptian border was open for anyone who wanted to leave.

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              “Long ago.”

              It was closed because IDF attacked a tunnel under the wall near the crossing. It was open before then and it has been reopened since. Unfortunately, Egypt only lets out ~300/day so it’s probably unlikely that refugees are lucky enough to leave at present. Egypt cares more about not destabilizing themselves like other neighboring countries did than they do about Palestinian refugees.

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    You are all ridiculous with your dirty propaganda. “paraded, raped…” too big, like the story about beheaded babies. So, Hamas would have the time and leisure to do that under intense fucking bombing and fighting. What a joke! Israelis confirming every single jewish clichés that we heard on history channel about Nazi’s vision on them!

    Between, Yocheved Lifshitz, elderly recently freed has another story.

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      This is news because she was one of the first videos that went viral that day. And to this day there are still people denying it that she died and that she is home safe. There was even a so called interview with her mother who said she was alive. They even went so far to say the truck video was them bringing her to a hospital (ya know because you beat half naked in her underwear body with your sandals to administer first aid).

      The Internet used “her being alive” as one of the first propaganda pieces to try to paint the photo that nothing happened Oct 7 and Israel are all liars.

      Turns out it’s exactly as the videos made it look. Just like the woman being led into a jeep with dark drried blood all over the ass of her pants was probably bleeding from mass rape even though the Internet tried to find every excuse for their behaviors.

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          Please, add more add more, we must make the most of Hamas! Did Hamas ate her too? You know, we still have room for Israeli delirium.
          You are all so ridiculous with your tabloid stories to hide the criminal acts that Israel is committing.
          “A german-israeli woman dead”
          “+3000 children smashed under bombings”

          “yeah, but Shani Louk! and you, come about people without name and sexy photo!”

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            nobody here is hiding stories about the criminal acts israel is committing, and in fact a lot of thr folks talking about killing and raping random women being bad are not pro israel

            do you ever have a moment of clarity between frothing over folks saying torture is bad and think ‘am i a bad person’?

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      She was one of the women raped to death and then paraded through the streets. That and she was a foreigner.

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        I’m not familiar with the story. Are you saying that she was paraded after her death?

        Edit: Nevermind. I saw the video just now. I’m at a loss for words to describe people who do this to innocent civilians.

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          Hamas. Terrorists.

          The same people who use gaza as civilians and then blame Israel for the casualties. Their bosses are currently in Qatar, the same Qatar that has an explosion of meetings with different media mongrels during Fifa, particularly elon musk.