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There are no good guys on either side, there are innocent people that do die on both sides of this conflict though.
It isn’t so black and white.
Israel vs. hamas? fuck them both. israel vs. the civilians they’re killing en mass? fuck israel. remember that hamas hasn’t allowed elections since 2006 they don’t represent the will of gazans
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on either side
There are more than two sides here.
Plenty of Jewish Israelis don’t support Netanyahu and plenty of Palestinians - half of whom are just children - don’t support Hamas.
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That’s understandable, but every complex situation requires a good deal of nuance. In this case, for example, not all Israelis are Zionists (anymore than all Palestinians are Hamas), and not even all Zionists (or Hamas) are “bad guys.” There are clearly some fucked up political agendas at work, and could well be more bad actors on one side than the other, and if you look close even “sides” become blurred. But there are definitely agents working to accentuate that distinction, and I don’t trust any of them. Which is different from saying all sides are the same. All I know is that war, greed, and power are all bad, and that good people are suffering, but beyond that I don’t know enough to take a public stand (though I’m working on some opinions).
Edit: let me clarify. I’m not trying to be neutral either. When I see something happening in my immediate world, in front of me, I will say/act for the common good. But I’m not going to read something online, about a place I’ve never been, and take a public opinion about it. I trust that there are people there, in that place, that are doing what I would do, and I hope they succeed.
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A broken clock twice a day or something
Seems about right. I went on Tiktok to have a look and that’s the impression I got from the accounts I had previously followed there (i.e not just the algorithm).
I think it’s probably because Gen Z were never prisoners of Network TV news the way older generations were. They’re also more likely to have Gen X parents instead of Boomer parents.
I think most of the world sees a third-world nation being constantly bullied by their neighbor, honestly. Encroaching on borders, constantly expanding into their borders (Russia just called it “annexing”), and just being really unapologetic about it.
When they (Palestine) fight back, this is how, and probably the only way they can. Is it brutal? Sure.
The defending will always be called “terrorists” by the opposing side. Same thing happened when the US invaded Iraq for no good reason, also Vietnam, Grenada…the list just goes on.
If a foreign entity decides they are going to start building houses on my property and it’s CLEARLY defined it is my property, I’m going to fight back as well. I will be called a terrorist by those people. I’m just confounded that people are acting so surprised about this.
The conflict between Israel and Palestine is complex. It goes back to the Hebrews and the Philistines. David and Goliath. It’s been going on in various forms for thousands of years and is unthinkably complicated.
But I can say with 100% certainty that you shouldn’t trust a single fucking thing that TikTok says. It’s the worst of the worst. It’s destroying what’s left of the attention span of younger people, while also being a literal agent of Chinese intelligence. Every slight bit of data they get goes on TikTok goes straight to the CCP’s intelligence apparatus.
Fuck TikTok.