On Friday, the globe hit 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees) above pre-industrial levels for the first time in recorded history
It’s not consumer cars that’s raising the temperature, though. They want to electrify cars for control. The elites are going to use this carbon credit crap to make people submit to their will. More rules for thee but not for me.
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Who cares 🤷♂️
Not enough people apparently.
Rich. Not enough RICH people care.
No duh, because not a single country has made any real attempt to lower their citizens’ emissions.
It will take sacrifice from all of us to stop warming.
Forget 1.5°C, honestly, forget 2°C as well, keeping it under 3°C is likely the best that we can hope for right now. You’re needing to throw out our gas-based car infrastructure, reduce our reliance on jets as much as possible, lower not just meat consumption but also almonds/alfalfa/etc., and that is just to get started.
Really, I don’t see the average voter letting that happen. What’s going to happen is eventually, sometime 30-40 years from now, a heat wave is gonna thrash the Middle East, consistent 130°F days for a solid month, 100,000 people dead, and the very next year planes will be in the air, making clouds to block the sun.
We are not ready to give up the things that the developed world will have to give up to truly back away from this coming apocalypse.
So clearly we need a different solution than cutting back on emissions.
I’d argue we might have to start human expansion into space to have any real positive impact. A solar shade, for example, could block out enough sunlight to artificially prevent warming and stabilize the climate while we construct or seek out alternative energy resources.
A solar shade, for example, could block out enough sunlight
Wouldn’t this undermine solar-generated electricity?
and our ability to grow food
The majority of emissions come from just a handful of large companies, even if every individual cut their carbon footprint to zero those companies would still continue to kill the planet. It’s also easier to change the behaviour of some companies than every person on the planet.
But telling people to lower their emissions because the world is on fucking fire, is eugenics! /s
You mean pledging to eventually tackle the problem 20-30 years down the road and doing nothing about it in the meantime hasn’t solved the problem?! I’m shocked! 🤯
Every time I hear “carbon neutral by 2050” I’m always thinking yeah like it’ll fucking matter at that point, Honda (or whomever).
Being vegan is the most impactful change that individuals can make.
But we won’t change.
It is totally hopeless.
What makes you think major nations will forego their cheapest source of energy if other nations are using it?
And the easiest. But even if all animal products were eliminated worldwide tomorrow, it would probably still not be enough for the emissions target. So individual changes do not make a dent in the problem.
regrettably, God made animals taste good.
Systemic problems require systemic solutions. Hoping everyone collectively changes their behaviour isn’t a solution unfortunately.
We have all the tools and technology to make a huge dent in this problem right now if not outright solve it. The most impactful thing you can do is spread awareness and do what you can to make this a voting issue if you live in a democracy. It could even be as simple is making it a non negotiable for how you choose to vote.
Lack of climate action needs to be a death sentence for the careers of the political class or it will become a death sentence for the the rest of us.
I’ll do you one better: don’t have kids!
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And if that’s not enough, then at least there won’t be any humans around to suffer through it!
But you’re fighting against a fundamental urge of life here … kinda hard to achieve that at a large scale. At least that’s why I tell myself and my kid.
Yea, you’re absolutely right. Humans are just animals in the end. Tho it is important to remember that your impact is absolutely microscopic, and even if 95% of people suddenly had the willingness, income and ability to make such changes to their life…
…there would still be a market for it, and we’d barely make a dent in the problem. Big corporations and billionaires are so much worse
Yeah… after having a child we needed to double the size of our trashcan just because of diapers.
Dayum, and the smell of that must be horrid
Not really. We have one of those smell free diaper cans. They close after you put something in them.
Why did you have a kid?
All my friends are doing it.
Lmao, wow. That’s bleak. I hope you tell your kid this, they’re going to be living through collapse and you forced them into this because of fucking FOMO and peer pressure.
Yo here’s some fun links from the World Economic Forum and United Nations for you:
Global freshwater demand will exceed supply 40% by 2030 and 90% of global top soil and arable land is at risk of depletion by 2050.I hope you’re proud of yourself.
It was a joke you ham-sandwich. I and my wife wanted a family. Now we do. And so far it’s going quite well so I will take my chances. :)
you’re spreading eugenicist propaganda and you should stop.
What else were they going to use all those diapers for?
Fetish stuff?
Maybe Vote for candidates who won’t FORCE people, and children, to have babies.
My trick is to not live in America
malthusianism is gross.
Not having children is the most impactful individual change one can make, well over going vegan.
this is eugenicist propaganda. also, going vegan has no impact at all.
Then what do you suggest? Thanos?
i suggest we figure out a way to maintain the habitability of the planet without eugenics.
Right, but from a “carbon footprint” perspective, making new humans is the worst thing a human could do for their footprint. What we need to get away from is the argument that our individual carbon footprints are too high. I mean, they are, but the ruling class is a lot more egregious.
from a “carbon footprint” perspective, making new humans is the worst thing a human could do for their footprint.
this is actual eugenicist propaganda. you should stop spreading it.
No it is not. It has nothing to do with eugenics. Nothing at all.
No it is not. Eugenics is an attempt to improve the genetic quality of a human population.
We are talking about an attempt to stop climate change. We are not trying to “improve” the genetics of human population.
Eugenics sounds good at first, but human greed and corruption makes it an incredibly dangerous tool that should probably not be in the hands of anyone
I don’t think eugenics sounds good.
I’ve heard too many people (mostly elderly) speak out for it. It’s definitely a bad idea
We are talking about an attempt to stop climate change
those are the trappings, but the method is bare eugenics
No it is not. Eugenics is a pseudo-science about improvement of genetics. Period.
Trying to avoid climate catastrophe is not about improving genetics.
Trying to avoid climate catastrophe is not about improving genetics.
if the method by which you try to avoid it is eugenicist, then it is.
I’m done.
I am not into bickering for no reason.
Eugenics is a pseudo-science about improvement of genetics. Period
no, it’s not, even the wikipedia article we both love disputes this claim plainly.
that’s a narrow definition that doesn’t really encompass all the ways in which eugenics has been practiced. frequently, as i have done here, it is used synonymously with genocide. stop practicing genocide.
Braindead take. We don’t need more children to be born into a world of suffering.
No. Genocide is murdering people. Genocide is violence against people. Forcing people, against their will to stop existing.
Asking people to reproduce less is asking people (not forcing them) to exercise their own will.
genocide is also propaganda that encourages one segment of the population to cease reproduction.
Becoming a vegan anti-natalist is the most impact a person can make.
I am uncertain of the numbers regarding both individually. You might be right.
Personally, I think both are important.
Well, no, wandering off into the woods is the biggest personal offset you can make.
And there’s a whole range between that and being a vegan anti-natalist, and once you get into calculating your impact on others the whole equation changes
This isn’t a problem that can be solved personally, it doesn’t make sense to look at it like that
wandering off into the woods is the biggest personal offset you can make.
what about destroying fossil fuel extraction or transportation projects?
Well that’s not really personal anymore.
Like say you blow up an oil rig or tanker… Congrats, you just made huge a carbon footprint.
Now say oil equipment gains a habit of being sabotaged, consistently. If it’s one person, It’s a problem for law enforcement. If it’s a consistent thing, fossil fuels have just become more expensive to produce statistically
Or, you know, we could pass a tax or regulate them properly
Regardless, my point is that climate change is a systematic problem, thinking of it in terms of individual action is already flawed
That’s not really a change that an individual can make. Either you already have them or you don’t.
Being vegan is the most impactful change that individuals can make.
being vegan has no impact at all.
Are you joking? Industrial scale production of cow and pig meat are disastrous for the climate.
being vegan doesn’t stop production.
“Hurr durr, me not killing people doesn’t stop murderers from killing people, so I should just kill people”
where did you find that quote, and why do you think it’s relevant?
I’ve been day saying this for the past two years now, humanity is fucked, and soon.
The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is a direct result from the energy we took from burning fossil fuels. To get all that CO2 out were going to have to wait Millenia for earth to do it (that is, if it still can) or spend that same amount of energy to get the CO2 out.
To put that into something understandable: we’re going to have to spend ALL the energy we produced over the last two centuries on too of the energy we need for ourselves to be able to get CO2 back to preindustrial levels. Basically, for the next two to four centuries were going to have to spend at least 50% of our world energy budget to scrubbing CO2 and NONE of that energy is allowed to generate CO2. Actually, NOTHING from humanity can generate CO2 to reach that. If we continue spewing CO2 then you can double that number.
To put that into perspective, adding all required work and infrastructure, energy -all energy- will become 3-4 times as expensive for the next few centuries
People will not understand the issue and will not want to pay more, rich people will not want to foot the bill even though they could, so we won’t do anything and things will get worse and worse until we all die.
One possible alternative might be spraying sulphuric acid into the atmosphere, that might buy us a few valuable years while we fix shit but what will happen is that we’ll just spray the crap out of it and call that a solution while we continue to spray CO2 into the atmosphere like there literally is no tomorrow for humanity
We’re fucked
Always the possibility we eat the rich but I’m not hopeful
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Methane is burned at the point of use and produces carbon dioxide. Ideally there is no methane released in to the environment.
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Oh it does for sure. At least in Canada there are government regulations requiring inspections by 3rd parties to check for leaks with some sort of thermal camera. I’m not familiar with the technology to check for leaks but I’ve had to fix the leaks before and it’s taken seriously and well documented.
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I’m not a big fan of China, but that’s just dishonest. Yes, China emits more than twice the co2 US emits. But that means that its per capita emissions are still way below those of the US, even after western countries outsourced a lot of their own pollution to China. Yes, you NEED to talk to China if you’re going to solve it, but pretending that it is more on them than on the west is ridiculous.
The Earth doesn’t care. As long as the western countries keep blaming China only and China not even talking about it, as far as I know from the western media I’m exposed to solely, it will simply get rid of us.
What do you think China is producing that’s creating all that pollution? I’ll give you a hint. IT’S EVERYTHING WESTERNERS ARE BUYING.
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It’s all so complex. They also produce a major chunk of renewable energy tech as I understand. Which I wouldn’t be surprised was made cheaply without longevity in mind. I’d be surprised if some of that tech lasts more than 5 years, especially for what they sold to Europe and the US. And the kicker, they continue to build coal power plants to run their production of western demanded products. The whole current status quo is a giant mess!
Yes but they’re paying for an already protected forest to be protected, so it balances out right?
Fortunately the EU is making that kinda advertisement illegal
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didn’t we pass the point of no return like 10 years ago
no one wanted to be held accountable for the triage so we let everyone bleed out, safe in the knowledge there was nothing we could have done.
Wealthy nations are making progress, but too little and they’re starting from a bad place.
Poor nations are busily repeating the industrialization process that made the wealthy nations wealthy. Anyone want to tell them they don’t have the right to do so?
I wonder if the window of opportunity on geoengineering is also closing. Because this emissions reduction thing isn’t going anywhere.
“But there are risks with geoengineering! We don’t know what might happen!” So: let’s get testing and find out, the way we do with everything else. Doing nothing on this spells certain doom. I’ll take an unknown quantity over certain doom.
The Japanese are pouring radiation into the Pacific Ocean so that’s probably it.
But isn’t the Fukashima water lower radiation than … oh I get it. I get jokes.
I wonder if I’ll be alive for the moment everyone goes from “This is bullshit and I’m going to ignore it” to “Oh no who could have seen this coming?”
Some people will never admit anything is happening. They’ll just blame everything on something else.
We are already seeing the effects of climate change. If they were going to admit it, they would have done so already.
