My old person trait is that I think ‘ghosting’ is completely unacceptable and you owe the other person a face-to-face conversation.
An urge to destroy fascism.
Just don’t follow the US lead and hire all the ex-fascists for your space program. Destroy it all the way this time.
My old person trait is being completely unwilling to use the self checkouts because they always brick out on me
I’ve never had one brick out on me, but I feel like I am always making some small error that requires a worker to come help me out. Still love self check out though overall
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Lol I’ve noticed myself making those little noises when I get up and down and I’m trying to stop. Feel like they’re making me older than I am. Lol
I’m 31 and I’ve been making noises like that for years. A relatively physical job will do that though lol
I DO NOT owe you a text back. If I’m not physically w you, I owe you very little in terms of interaction. I come home, throw my phone under the bed, and ignore till morning, and I prob won’t answer you then either. It’s not personal…usually.
It’s kind of rude though, and it may not gain you very many friends, which if that’s not something you prioritize on it’s fine (for you) of course.
It’s almost like if two people were sitting in a restaurant talking and one person asks the other one a question and the other person just ignores them. Just seems rude to me.
Now if you’re getting too many texts from one person there’s a different conversation to be had about boundaries, but that’s different than your point.
It isn’t comparable to ignoring someone at a restaurant. A restaurant was choice made by someone to show up and participate. Consent if you will. A text message from someone was not planned or requested most of the time. It is a non consensual conversation until they choose to respond.
In the 90s it was considered fairly normal to just show up at someones house as well. If you show up to someone’s house without notice now it is often considered rude. While it can be a nice surprise, whatever we are doing in the privacy of our own homes is ours to know and not for others to barge in on.
Anyways, I just checked and saw I have 1034 contacts with numbers in my phone because I never delete them. There are ~15 people I would text with. (Mostly family)
Consent is given when you give out your phone number to that person.
If you want to withdrawal consent then you need to ask them to stop texting you and to remove your phone number from their address book.
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I feel like old people take most offense to being ignored in that case.
Yep, my son and I have that dynamic going on.
Bothers the hell out of me when he doesn’t reply and to him he can’t understand why he should reply to me in a timely manner.
I think it just comes down to our generation was trained it’s rude to ignore someone, where the newer generations think it’s totally okay to ghost someone temporarily.
Socially I just can’t wrap my head around that, but sure why not, 21st century etc. etc.
our generation was trained it’s rude to ignore someone
If you want something that reacts to you every time you want get a dog.
Unless it’s immediately important, you’re not entitled to communication, and trying to force people who don’t want to communicate just because you want to is the best way to alienate and lose them.
And this has nothing to do with „21st century“.
No one is saying that within the first 10 seconds of receiving a text message a conversation response has to be done. Don’t be pedantic.
But if you receive the text message and you’re too busy to have a conversation just respond with a "Hey I’ll get back to you later " so you are not leaving the person hanging.
Always respond back, with either a start of a conversation, or a postponement of a conversation. Or else why the f did you bother letting them have your phone number in the first place, if you’re never going to answer their text messages?
TLDR: don’t leave someone hanging. If you don’t have the time to converse with them right now tell them that like you would do face to face in person.
It was so expected that you immediately start digging your heels in. You don’t even understand that your behaviour is problematic.
You did „train“ your son (and probably a lot of other people) very well, by imposing your completely arbitrary definition of what you consider communication etiquette, by demanding they always (sic!) adhere to your rules, and by demonstrating that you do not respect other people’s, rules, choices, idiosyncrasies, and boundaries.
You’re the one who is incredibly rude and pedantic, but somehow it’s always the other people who are wrong.
It’s no wonder he doesn’t react to your calls. I wouldn’t either.
PS: how exactly were you „trained“ to send text messages. I’m old enough to have lived without computers. Do you know how quick people reacted to you when they were busy? Right, they didn’t.
Just for the record, because you’re mostly just foaming at the mouth at this point, and have never met me, or know anything about me to make the presumptions you’re making, but my son is his own person, and he never responds back quickly.
And when I talk to him about it he understands my position but he disagrees with me.
I feel it’s a disrespect, but I honor him and let him do whatever he wants as he’s his own person.
I would just reiterate if you allow somebody an avenue to communicate with you, it’s rude when they try to communicate with you and you don’t respond.
because you’re mostly just foaming at the mouth at this point
Right, next page in the playbook: declaring criticism as emotional and irrational so you can continue ignoring it.
and have never met me, or know anything about me to make the presumptions you’re making
Don’t worry. You’ve been quite vocal enough here to judge you. The fact that you completely fail to understand the concept of „consent“ speaks volumes already.
I feel it’s a disrespect, but I honor him and let him do whatever he wants as he’s his own person.
Nothing says you’re totally cool with things like going on to whine about how disrespected you feel to total strangers on the internet, lol.
I would just reiterate if you allow somebody an avenue to communicate with you, it’s rude when they try to communicate with you and you don’t respond.
What is it now, just moments ago he didn’t respond in a „timely matter“, now he doesn’t respond at all.
I would just like to reiterate that it’s not your right to decide if, when, and how other people respond to your communication attempts. But again, you’ve already established you do not understand consent.
Probably much older than your son, but I do the same. I don’t view an instant message as a call to action, if it’s indeed urgent, just call me.
I only text my wife, or instant message people from work.
Everyone else gets a phone call that has a concrete beginning and end. I get anxious having multiple running conversations waiting for a reply.
Mine is that I miss the days when physical media (DVDs, VHS, etc) was the main way to own media
Guess whose 4K Blu-Ray player is out for delivery today?!
There are dozens of us! DOZENS!
Which one did you get? I’ve been eyeing that Panasonic ub820 for years
Panasonic DP-UB420-K - It’s the best mid-range I could afford and find and I’m pretty happy with it. The sound on it with just a Sony stereo sound bar and stereo conversion is a lot better than any other sound coming out of any of my other devices.
I don’t understand TikTok… at all. Like, what’s even the point as a user?
Slutty girls, I guess
^found your old-person-trait 😷
Nah, I dont use tiktok.
TikTok is a lot of fun if you give the algorithm a mintue to figure you out. I haven’t seen any dancing videos, I have never watched the demilios or whatever, it is a pretty different experience depending on what you like. It is mostly golf tips, sports highlights, crafts and funny stuff for me.
See, I still don’t understand how that could possibly be better than watching longer, more insightful content in a platform like Youtube.
Just less involved with picking a video, it’s better when you don’t really know what you want to watch but just want to kill time. I love YouTube too but sometimes it takes a while for me to find a video I want to lock into for a while
It wastes time, some people don’t have anything better to do with their lives.
“some people”
I waste time in better ways then tiktok.
I prefer written guides to video guides.
Video has some clear advantages when showing off a 3D space and otherwise, but I dislike pausing them over and over. Especially if my hands are covered in oil and grease, a paper version is superior to a screen.
Also, text is a lot easier to skim/scroll through or find the relevant parts.
Don’t worry, the five second answer to your question is somewhere in this 25 minute video. Good luck finding it.
I was playing Sim’s 2 castaway recently on an emulator, because nostalgia, and when I was struggling to find an item in game, I googled for it and found some surprise bonus nostalgia: a guide to the game that was plain black text on white background, all on one page, with a chapter section and headings labelled, and ASCII art up top. It made me long for simpler days
I also remember getting a cheat book with a gaming magazine, or very rarely getting access to a printer to print off cheats, or finding some online and writing the important ones down manually.
I studied biochemistry in uni, and usually the practical labs had the protocols and stuff in a paper booklet we’d get at the start of term, but one year, they switched to using iPads for that. I hated it; it felt unhygienic, even though I was careful to avoid contamination, and it was awkward to flip back and forth between sections.
They have their place but I totally get you.
For example, when I’m planning a big home project, I want to watch a lot of DIY channels (plug for Home Renovision here) on the basic procedure.
But, if I’m repairing my dryer, I don’t want to be unlocking my screen, rotating, hitting play, watch a few seconds, pause, put it down, work, repeat. Just give me something I can print out ffs.
Holy shit, yes! Give me a step by step guide with an occasional picture to demonstrate the steps that are awkward to type out.
I don’t need a 30 minute video complete with an introduction/plot/climax to show me how to use foam sheets for cosplay pauldrons, and then another one for gauntlets.
When did these become the rule rather than the exception?!
When videos started to make money.
Agree a hundred percent. Also I grew up in an area that still doesn’t have consistent cell reception so everyone always has a set of wrenches and the Haynes manual to their car.
My old person trait is that I think that the company I buy a product from should be the seller and the shipper of the product.
Gas was less than a dollar per gallon when I started driving.
I remember my bestie in 1995 complaining up a storm at the ridiculousness of paying 43 cents a litre in Ontario, Canada…
My OPT is that you should be able to buy and own your software instead of perpetually renting it.
I don’t think you can “own it” in the traditional sense, but I’d be ok with a software purchase being a perpetual license for the specific version you purchased.
And this is why I buy still buy copies of 2015 Office from eBay
I’m so goddamned sick of Microsoft and its greedy bullshit. I just looked at a recent KB update from them and the article must have breathlessly mentioned the word “subscription” 50 times.
After years of being a MS corporate stooge type, I finally started messing around with LibreOffice. It can read MS Office files. Check it out if you haven’t already.
Come to open source… you don’t have to rent or buy software. Find yourself a good alternative.
Thanks!
I’ve been a happy Linux user since 99 and Mandrake was my first distro 👌
Still, the only piece of (subscription-based) software that’s keeping me from deleting the windows partition: Premiere pro 🤡
There’s davinci resolve, though an entirely different editing software may be out of your scope
Thanks for that link. Honestly. I think an old thing is that I’ve gotten used to convenience and a going through a list like that sometimes doesn’t seem worth the time even though I know deep down that it is.
You gotta get on that private tracker shit. Public trackers are always terrible and are more risky.
I’m not sure if the Lemmy piracy instance has an Open Signups thread, but might be a good idea to keep an eye out. It’s worth it.
My old person trait is that I think we need less acronyms
That said I do agree with you
My old person trait is to inform people that they meant to say “fewer.”
Stannis? Is that you?
Haha. I typed it that way out of laziness, sorry 😺
It’s okay, my other old person trait is teasing people on the internet don’t take it too personally
You can. I think it’s called “pirate bay”, but don’t quote me on that. ;)
When I was younger I would be there with you. Now as I’m older I just want it to work and the Pirate Bay is hit or miss sometimes.
Not sure if you’re joking or not, but just in case… stop downloading media manually. Look into Radarr, Sonarr, and Lidarr. You can self-host on any PC using Docker.
Half joking. Pirated apps are sometimes sketchy, but you can get older versions of things that just worked. Alternatively there’s Linux and the open source world, which has never let me down.
My old person trait is that I think I should be able to have anything I purchased repaired/serviced by whomever I wish, with whatever parts they deem acceptable.
Right to repair is a human right.
my old person trait is thinking that all of the above are extremely reasonable expectations and it’s a sad world we live in where most of those aren’t the case anymore
I think that a basic lifestyle should be affordable for a basic person
i’m gonna go one further:
i think everybody should be allowed to live a decent enough life, whether they can work or not.
I’ll go even further and say that meeting the needs of a population is the only point of having a society at all.
that almost sounds like… anticapitalist propaganda! Can’t have that! Back to your cubicle, worker #33458!
I don’t think that is an old person trait. You are just secretly Nordic.
or not so secretly, seeing as i literally live a stone’s throw from a scandinavian border
One further, and one better
All this automation should mean that there’s less work to do for everyone’s needs to be met. Not sure where all this scarcity came from.
As a very basic person, I agree
Crazy how that is an unpopular opinion these days
Found the left-wing extremist! /s
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Restaurant menus should be on paper, not a QR code.
I think I should be allowed to order food from a restaurant without needing to scan a QR code which requires me to have a smart phone and an active, paid plan in order to access their menu.
I’m on the fence about this. On one hand I don’t get handed a wet plastic menu someone has just wiped off, or maybe has dried sauce on it. Also it is easier for them to add updates to their menu digitally instead of using a sharpie to cross through items and prices that no longer apply. But I also agree having to look at the whole menu on my small phone screen isn’t the best experience.
I think the move to delivery apps is also a bad move.
I agree. I never understood why having a stranger deliver your food was considered safer than just picking it up yourself during the beginning of covid. That’s another person handling your food.
Not to mention restaurants and drivers get ripped off.
Yes! My OPT is that people shouldn’t have their phones out when you’re out for a meal. The whole QR code menu thing forces you to start your outing staring at your phone!
Wait, you mean you’re sat down AT the restaurant and you need to get out your phone to view the menus???
Sadly, yes, and just like @PurpleFairy I don’t like to get my phone out during meals so it bothers me to start my meals with my girlfriend, friends, or family that way.
But also not everyone has a phone with a paid plan so this is a class and an accessibility issue. And I’m not going to use my phone to scan some random, potentially unsafe QR code. I put in too much work into my digital security to then go and do something like that.
