• t3rmit3@beehaw.org
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    Israel’s entire claim was that this resource starvation that they enacted HAD to be done this way in order to prevent Hamas from taking the supplies, but then they turn around and say their own justification was wrong?

    Okay, seems like they are making the case for lifting restrictions on aid, since the restrictions aren’t working anyways.

    Because unless they are just finally admitting that Israel intends to genocide the Palestinian civilians, essential supplies HAVE to go to Gaza.

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      Israel is making it up as they go along, with whatever was true yesterday being irrelevant. Similar strategy as Trump. It works because there are many people who want to believe what Israel says for a variety of reasons.

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        What does that have anything to do with what I said? Did you mean to reply to someone else?

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    Aaaand this is what we were afraid would happen. Hamas doesn’t care about the civilians of Gaza. It is such a horrible organization, there are no words to express it.

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      Hamas denies aid to civilians: “it’s so horrible, no words to express it”

      Israel denies aid to civilians: “this is just what has to happen, no way around it”

      Food and water don’t power weapons, and it’s illegal to use denial of food and water as a weapon of war anyways.

      Anyone who claims to care about Palestinian civilians should be demanding the restrictions on supplies be lifted, because the restrictions clearly aren’t working anyways.

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      The dirty truth is, Hamas is made of civilians, just not the starving babies ones.

      It’s made of guys like a father who one day got a phone call from the IDF telling him to surrender or get killed, so he decided to publish a video holding an AK, laughing and telling Israel to go and try. Next week he was dead, along with several members of his family.

      When you hear news like “Israel bombed a building just as a bunch of refugees took shelter in it”… yes, those were civilians; there also likely were Hamas among them, and at this point it’s anyone’s guess whether it was 10% or 90% of them.

      They’re civilians willing to risk their own families, and definitely everyone else’s families too.

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        Imagine the police calling you and telling you to turn yourself in, and then bombing your family if you don’t.

        Seems like the police are the bad guys in that scenario.

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          IDF are the military. It’s more like “imagine the FSB calling you and telling you to turn yourself in, mocking them publicly, then getting surprised at finding Polonium in the soup”.

          They’re not there to be the nice guys.

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            The IDF are terrorists who target civilians with vague claims, that they do not allow anyone to review, that their bombs are totally definitely absolutely hitting Hamas and not just civilians.

            But also, police are just the internal enforcers of a government’s power. And Israel exerts de facto control over the West Bank and Gaza, so it’s perfectly accurate to call the IDF’s actions there ‘policing’.

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    The more I hear about the israel-palestine conflict, the more it looks like an inextricable mess.

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    Israel could always stop chucking bombs at civilians, then they wouldn’t need aid.

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      If you don’t want Israel lobbing bombs at you, then maybe you should stop lobbing bombs at Israel first.

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        What an asinine comment that displays a complete lack of understanding of the history of the situation.

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        Are you under the impression that the Palestinians invaded Israeli lands in 1948, killing thousands of them? Or that it’s Palestinians who put Israelis in an open-air prison and deny them essential supplies? Or that it’s Palestinians who regularly form mobs to run Israelis out of their homes before bulldozing them to build new settlements?

        Because if so, your comment would make sense.

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    Asked about the supposed trickle of aid coming into Gaza, the woman, says there is plenty of aid

    This is problematic. We all know how much aid is getting through because the humanitarian NGOs are fighting for every inch of it and credible news agencies are reporting on it.

    So right off the bat she’s made a claim that’s easily disproved. I’ve no doubt she believes what she’s saying, but she’s not a reliable witness.

    This is a bit like if a news agency interviewed my dad’s Q-anon friend.