This is USA to Israel: Hey now… come on now…ooh. we tried.
Reminds me of Democrat primary debate where right before (or after… was a while ago, dont remember which) TARP was released to pump hundreds of billions of dollars straight into CEO’s pockets because it was going to “trickle down” and fix the economy (the actual issue was the sub prime mortgage trade in wall street), Hilary was quoted as saying “I was the Senator for New York when all that went down, and I personally went to Wall Street and told them ‘Hey! Stop it!’” They, in fact, did not stop it.
…by sending them more weapons and ammo and asking them to be nice.
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The defenders of human rights violations.
Everyone world wide has a huge problem with the death toll, except for pro-Israelis. That irks me.
This whole thing is a perfect example of how conspiracy theories get a foothold. We are seeing celebrity cancellations because of disagreement with Israel and people clearly asking for change from their leadership who refuse. Yet the apartheid state remains enabled and the genocide supported.
It’s pure balls
Israel of course boldly claims that 7k of those 18k dead are terrorists. Somehow in their minds the death of the 11k others doesn’t mean shit. No evidence beyond “trust me bro”.
Also, dont forget, they have been caught a few times now rounding up civilians, shaming/torturing them as terrorists, claiming they are terrorists, then it turns out they were just normal civilians rounded up like cattle.
It’s a tough time to be the Biden administration, they’re trying to support our allies and retain international credibility while dealing with significant numbers of angry voters who are trying to bind Israel’s hands before they can achieve meaningful military objectives to keep themselves safe. This will end when Hamas is deposed and the threat of future attacks is mitigated, which could happen immediately if they were so inclined:
“There’s a gap between the intent and the results, and that’s the gap that we’re trying to make sure is closed,” Blinken said. “Look, this could be over tomorrow. This could be over tomorrow. If Hamas got out of the way of civilians instead of hiding behind them, if it put down its weapons, if it surrendered.”
The “entire world” should put pressure on Hamas “to do just that,” Blinken said. “That would stop this tomorrow. But in the absence of that, Israel has to take steps not only to defend itself against the ongoing attacks from Hamas, but against Hamas’s stated intent to repeat Oct. 7 again and again if given the opportunity.”I totally agree with him. It’s sad when I see more people on the left angry at Israel for responding to being attacked than at Hamas for instigating, hiding among civilians, and prolonging the conflict, causing this terrible yet predictable situation.
It’s a tough time to be the Biden administration, they’re trying to support our allies and retain international credibility while dealing with significant numbers of angry voters who are trying to bind Israel’s hands before they can achieve meaningful military objectives to keep themselves safe.
Your allies are child murderers.
I’m honestly not sure we can truly say that Hamas ‘instigated’ this situation in good faith, as this is merely the most recent flare-up in a long history of atrocities that goes both ways. That doesn’t excuse what Hamas has done either, but I also wouldn’t consider shelling civilian buildings to be a particularly defensive action.
People aren’t trying to ‘bind Israel’s hands before they can achieve meaningful military objectives’ they’re trying to bind Israel’s hands before they can commit more atrocities. These atrocities are being actively supported by US taxpayer dollars, and the sentiment among voters (at least the ones I know) is that US support means that we have blood on our hands by association. That’s not something I’m willing to support, and voters shouldn’t feel bad for not supporting it either.
Nothing about this mass casualty event should be considered a foregone conclusion. All we can do is try and stop this cycle of violence from being perpetuated.
Causing, “the most recent flare-up,” is instigating as it regards to this specific conflict.
I also wouldn’t consider shelling civilian buildings to be a particularly defensive action.
IDF claims they level buildings used by Hamas, however there are anonymous accounts that say that can mean any connection no matter how slight will suffice; a Hamas member living in their family apartment might lead to the entire building being leveled. This might make it technically a legal military target, but there’s legitimate criticism to be made of such strategies. I suspect Israel is hitting Gaza hard while they still can to create a buffer zone and/or to discourage future attacks.
People aren’t trying to ‘bind Israel’s hands before they can achieve meaningful military objectives’ they’re trying to bind Israel’s hands before they can commit more atrocities.
This invasion and all the destruction will have all been for naught if they do not take out Hamas before they leave, or at very least change the situation in a way that denies intifada groups the ability to launch future attacks. If they blow up infrastructure and leave them in charge, it’s a half-measure, and just a matter of time before the next attack. It would be Pyrrhic victory for Hamas.
the sentiment among voters (at least the ones I know) is that US support means that we have blood on our hands by association. That’s not something I’m willing to support, and voters shouldn’t feel bad for not supporting it either.
Yes, sadly I believe the electorate just sees asymmetrical warfare and assumes the underdog is worth cheering for without understanding the context.
a Hamas member living in their family apartment might lead to the entire building being leveled.
Oh I see, so you’re okay with the whole family dying. Now I understand what a sick fuck you are.
Let’s sya your cousin works for the Hamas government… Because he has a governmental job, so they bomb the home you are sheltering and starving in and you, your niece, your mother, your father, your grandfather, and all your children die. Is this acceptable?
I already know the answer: Yes. To you, it must be acceptable.
My fear is that this sort of warfare is just going to keep this conflict going for another 70 years.
You think it’s sad you see more people concerned by genocide over terrorism?
Hamas is for genocide, they just don’t have the means. Israel claims they are not. Causing heavy collateral damage is not genocide.
The current ratio for collateral “damage”, as you called it, is 2-1. Are they missing and shooting terrorists by mistake?
They are attacking Hamas targets hiding among civilians, using them as human shields.
Well, thats to be expected. They are, in fact, terrorists. Whats not expected is the lack of regard for human life from the idf.
If you think a state should have the same standards as a terrorist group, i dont know what to tell you
If you think they should send troops into a well prepared guerilla terrorist den without air support and incur heavy losses, encouraging increased use of human shields in the future, and making Israel less safe in order to save civilians from a belligerent nation who are likely to be hostile themselves, I don’t know what to tell you.
Fundamentally Israel has to choose between the lives of it’s own soldiers and civilians in a hostile territory, their decision should be unsurprising.
Dude, they are bombing hospitals, ambulances, refugee camps, UN offices, UN schools, starving people, etc. I dont know what to tell you.
Lets hope you never find yourself in the same neighbourhood as a hostage taker or idf may as well bomb it.
@DarkGamer @naturalgasbad @Marsupial Yeah that’s delusional, Israel is committing genocide and has been slow walking one ( ethnic cleansing) for decades
Israeli propaganda isn’t fooling anyone anymore
So you think they are okay with genocide, despite their history, but just not very good at it? 🙄
They could have just fire bombed Gaza like Dresden, but instead they built a sophisticated AI to generate legal military targets, and until recently would warn people of strikes ahead of time so they could leave.
They could have just fire bombed Gaza like Dresden, but instead they built a sophisticated AI to generate legal military targets,
As someone who works with AI on a professional level (data scientist/ML engineer) I want to say from all my heart: fuck your stupidity.
Oh yeah the AI surely explains why 30+ members of the same family die a single bombing and why Israel has wiped entire families from existence.
You are such a sad genocide denier. You ARE just as bad as holocaust deniers, maybe even worse since you are denying a genocide now underway, a genocide we can stop.
@DarkGamer @naturalgasbad @Marsupial DarkGamer, how naive are you??
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0tSl5dKB7D/?igshid=YzZhZTZiNWI3Nw==
How does your clip reveal naevity?
This does not appear to be a valid military target and I hope those responsible are punished. Are you suggesting this one person getting shot and killed is genocide, not an unsanctioned killing by soldiers at war?
@DarkGamer @naturalgasbad @Marsupial I’m saying that one video you’re watching, is an example of many other atrocities that have been documented in other places
And those who perpetuated the action will go unpunished by Israel which is condoning those actions. About 17,000 times so far, in a myriad of manners
Do you deny Israel’s genocide against Palestinians?
