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      It was long enough! Most animals just don’t get ranged weapons; it’s as if we’re killing them by merely looking at them.

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      Atlatls are over 20000 y/o and are futher range than just spears.

      Bow and arrows show up in the archaeological record ~70000 years ago.

      So, yeah both those are longer range than spears and predate writing and use of most metals.

      So if you consider pre bronze age primitive; yes spears are short range.

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        Heck, slings were around even before bow and arrows and can definitely be considered long range

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          We probably got pretty good at picking birds out of trees with those things back when our dinner depended on it. There were definitely some impressive acts of slingery going on at some point.

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    Evolutionary biologist here.

    I know this is a recurring meme, and it does have a basis in truth. However, in my opinion, it vastly overemphasizes a single aspect of early humans at the expense of other and more important distinct human qualities (and I’m using this term to also refer to our closely related species and ancestors).

    First, the real distinction is sociality. Humans are the most cooperative species of hominid. As someone once said, you will never see two chimpanzees carrying a log together. This translates into being able to coordinate efficient hunting practices in a variety of ecosystems.

    Second, and very related, is social learning. Other species can also exhibit social learning, but never to the degree humans do. Most species figure out things in evolutionary time - what counts as food, what counts as danger, the best way to do X, etc. Humans do it daily and pass it on to each other. We learn to kill prey by setting fires in grasslands. We develop tools and teach each other how to make and use them. These are all interlocking effects. The bigger our brains get, the more helpless our babies are, so the more we need societies, which creates increasingly complex social dynamics, which rewards more complex brains, and so on.

    In short, it’s intelligence and social learning replacing learning in evolutionary time that made humans successful, possibly to the point of self destruction.

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      As someone once said, you will never see two chimpanzees carrying a log together.

      Such a great point that really drives home just how much we cooperate and take it for granted.

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      As a group we do not. Grab 5 buddies, take turns jogging, follow a deer until it either falls off a cliff/gets exhausted/makes some other mistake.

      If it runs, chill, just spread out and keep it in sight.

      This is how the human do

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          260 miles is not easy ever. The caloric expenditure alone is a massive hurdle.

          That said, ancient man certainly had great endurance but part of that was knowing when to walk, and bringing a buddy.

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      If they’re fit, not too tired. Humans are some of the best distance runners in the animal kingdom, and we can walk virtually forever. And we can regulate our own body temperature by sweating. And we can carry some extra food and water with us. And we are capable of being excellent trackers as well. The joke in the op is about how humans used to hunt - by chasing an animal until it collapses of exhaustion. Some tribes still do this today