• LoraxEleven@lemmy.world
    13·
    1 year ago

    That’s exactly what a fuckin boozer would say, also.

    Although… I’ve been drinking since about October o’clock… so, what the fuck would I know about it, anyways.

    (I say: they can stop anytime you want me to.)

    Cheers!

  • DaGeek247@kbin.social
    376·
    1 year ago

    Only acoholics actually need to try to convince others that they aren’t alcoholics. Nobody goes up to a person on the street to start aggressively asking if they have a drinking problem.

    Any serious questions about how alcohol is affecting your life will quickly demonstrate whether it is is or isn’t a problem, without you ever saying that you don’t have a drinking problem.

      • DeepFriedDresden@kbin.social
        132·
        1 year ago

        Yeah I’m going to have to agree. I’m an alcoholic myself and this is a problematic way of living with it. Moderation seldom works for alcoholics as it is and by putting your choice to drink on someone else’s offerings seems to just be a way to escape any blame should it end in full relapse.

        Everybody’s journey is different though so I’m not going to judge. But at no point was I able to stop drinking until I straight stopped drinking. As they say “one drink is too much and a hundred isn’t enough.”

        • protist@mander.xyzEnglish
          13·
          1 year ago

          You may be surprised at the spectrum of human experience. Among those for whom drinking becomes a problem at some point in their life, a substantial majority are actually able to moderate or regulate their drinking, either on their own or with limited support. There are a subset of problem drinkers who absolutely cannot do this though, and those for whom a single drink can send them spiralling.

          I’m not saying what that other guy is doing is smart, but like you said, everybody’s journey is different

          • DeepFriedDresden@kbin.social
            52·
            1 year ago

            Problem drinking and alcoholism aren’t the same though. 9 out of 10 excessive drinkers aren’t alcohol dependent. So yeah, while many people who at some point have a problem with drinking can learn to moderate without future issues, I don’t know if most of them would fall into the alcohol dependency category.

            • Crashumbc@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              That’s kind of the issue though. There is no distinction in the eyes of the public, many in the medical field, and even those in recovery themselves.

              According to one of the questionnaires about being an alcoholic I saw in college. Every single college student was an alcoholic if they ever took a drink.

    • jak@sopuli.xyz
      74·
      1 year ago

      Can I try to gently press that a little?

      I would feel awful if I found out I had been enabling someone’s alcoholism, especially if they only allowed it because they trusted me and I offered them drinks. I have ADHD and autism, so I understand making yourself hard and fast rules to avoid having to make your own self control (I’m not saying that’s definitely what you’re doing).

      Could you perhaps try gradually increasing the rules one by one so that in the end there’s basically no scenario in which you drink? I’m talking: a trusted person offers it to you; it’s a weekend; it’s nice weather out; your whole house is clean; you’ve got extra cash; you ate healthy that day; you are already in a good mood; your beloved (hopefully incapable, for this situation) sports team has won; you talked to two relatives that day, etc. I’m not a therapist, but that works for me. The problem is when I mess up- my rules are great for keeping me out of trouble, but they make me spiral if/when I do break them. You might have to figure out a combination of zero tolerance for “mistakes” and allowing yourself to make actual mistakes without spiraling.

  • fubo@lemmy.world
    62·
    1 year ago

    “My psychiatrist prefers to say that I have a ‘substance use disorder’ and cautions that the old ‘alcoholism’ model isn’t very scientific.”

  • TheDoozer@lemmy.world
    10·
    1 year ago

    “I have about three drinks a week and get drunk maybe once or twice a year. I’d say I’m the picture of moderation, but I’m not really concerned with how you feel about my drinking habits.”

  • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social
    403·
    1 year ago

    “I have literally not had alcoholic beverages even once in my life, how would it be possible to become an alcoholic given that?”

  • JTheDoc@lemmy.world
    8·
    1 year ago

    I haven’t drunk alcohol in over a year, last time I got drunk was maybe almost a decade ago…

    I’m sure that’ll convince someone? Though it makes it sound like I used to be one too lol.