When I was 15, my dad purchased me a plaster saw (still have it) and handed me his drill.
Then told me to make it look neat, but “don’t fuck up because your mother will kill us both”.
I ran about 4 network points through the house.
Nothing like fear to produce a 100% perfect finish 😉
And then there’s me who just screwed up installing a new door knob. I stripped the threads on the screws cause I used the wrong size screws drilling. Now if the new knob fails in the future, I need to buy a new door lmao
If it’s a wooden door that you’re screwing into, dab some match sticks with a little bit of liquid nails and gently hammer them into the stripped-out screw hole, and cut them flush with the hole. Once the glue dries, you can drive the screw back into the matches and it’ll have enough wood to bite into.
I’m new to DIY home fixes. Will try this out cause I am, using a wooden door. Thanks for the tip!
People are getting hung up on the “liquid nails” when I think any old carpenter’s glue would work.
You don’t even need any adhesive if you simply shove in a toothpick or two before screwing in the screw. Remember: you don’t need to completely fill the hole, just enough to fill in the space between the too-big screw and the right-sized screw
This is true in many cases - just break up some toothpicks or matchsticks to partially fill the over enlarged hole, and drive the screw right in.
Often for small repairs like that, the pressure and friction of the wood being compressed is more than enough to hold.
assuming liquid nails means molten metal, I don’t think that’s easily accessible in most homes
No, I believe it just a really strong PVA glue
you can buy liquid nails at like any home depot type of store
Is it a US thing?
no - I think you’re taking the name of the product too literally. it’s a really strong adhesive. you can use it to fill small holes since it hardens like a mfer
I’m tempted to do this, do you have any tips?
If you can, re-use existing sockets! Old telephone or antenna lines can work! You tie the cable to the end of the old cable and pull it through the existing PVC pipe.
Using old phone lines is exactly what I did for my parents house, worked like a charm. Highly recommend if you don’t need the phone lines anymore.
Even if you do need a couple, run Cat6 anyway. RJ15 is a subset of RJ45, so it is simply a question of how you patch it at the other end.
That’s exactly what I am about to do in the house we’re signing for in few weeks (waiting for the attorney to give us an appointment).
When I saw the phone jack’s in every room, all terminating down in the garage, I just figured it would be rude not too. Seeing as we will have 2Gb fibre, it makes sense
This was an older stumped house. The way I did it was to remove a power point, look in the wall cavity for where the cable came up out of the floor in the cavity space, and then assuming there was no obstruction, I then got under the floor and drilled up. In most cases I was able to stay a good 20cm or so away from the power cable. Worked a charm. I was paranoid if I got it wrong I’d be drilling right up through the actual floor.
Nowadays, doing the same at my own house… Cut the plaster. Run cable. Patch plaster. No stuffing around with the slowly slowly approach 🤷♂️
Nowadays, doing the same at my own house… Cut the plaster. Run cable. Patch plaster. No stuffing around with the slowly slowly approach 🤷♂️
Literally me a couple weeks ago
Are you…are you in the walls?
Easy I have either cable but no family, my PC is happy too :)
My double-brick house really suffers with WiFi, and I work from home so I almost permanently have an Ethernet cable to my office. My fiance has gotten used to it at this point
I did this for every device in my house. used flat ethernet cable and just fished it under the carpets. Was significantly cheaper than trying to make wireless reach the other side of the house.
Flat ethernet cable
What?!! I did not know this existed!!
You can also buy devices you plug into the wall and route your network through your power network. Used them to give my detached garage wifi. Works pretty well.
Can be unreliable though based on what else is on the circuit. Had a portable ac that completely took my power line ethernet connection out whenever it ran.
Based on my research, you get the speed of 2.4 ghz wireless (which while it works, it could be better) with the inconvenience of having to use a cable. Performance also depends on wire insulation, which often isn’t built for running PLC. However, you can’t beat the “plug-and-play” of wired there, which might be attractive.
I’d recommend getting a mesh router setup, gives you 5ghz wireless over the whole house (assuming proper setup), and some mesh points support wired output (effectively having a wireless bridge)
Yeah they’re great! I got a super long flat white one and those little white plastic staple things you can lightly hammer into the wall, and ran it along the baseboard of the walls, makes it nearly invisible! It was a bit tedious to do (which is why I haven’t yet redone it in the place I live now, although I will), but honestly I super recommend it. My partner wanted to try and run cords through the walls but I was way too nervous about what might go wrong, so found this solution instead lol
Ok serious question I just picked up this Ethernet splitter and I was hoping to split pre router in an effort to bypass the router and bump speeds slightly. Is that actually going to work or am I just dreaming?
Amazon link: https://a.co/d/21ev6zA
Your router uses NAT (network address translation) to share a single IP, allocated to your internet connection, among many clients, such as your gaming PC.
So what you are attempting is not going to work.
Those Ethernet splitters also don’t let you pass the input signal to more than one output at a time - you couldn’t have the router and the PC on at the same time.
Yup, need a switch if you want to have multiple outputs
Or another router to act as a switch
No. Tis won’t work. What you are looking for is a network switch. https://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-Splitter-Optimization-Unmanaged-TL-SG105/dp/B00A128S24
However, what do you mean by “bump speeds by bypassing router”? If you see any improvement what so ever it will be only on your local network, there is no way to gain internet speeds like that
I don’t really know! I was thinking one less device to go through, but now I realize that’s silly
You will end up at an edge router at some point. As I said, this might make your LAN transfers faster if your router has a really crappy CPU
There is ONE IP address available from your ISP to your home, so even if that splitter physically “shares” the electric signal, only ever your router OR whatever is on the other end of that splitter will get it and with it a working data connection to the ISP (and that’s assuming it even works). Further whichever gets ot os sorta random and it won’t really jump between one and the other at need - you’re sharing the physical line but not the actual data connection.
Frankly, if your router is somehow making the connection slower, get a better router as well as the correct ethernet cables for reaching higher speeds (i.e. gigabit ethernet won’t run on cheap Cat 5 cables).
It’s not slow by any means but I had to move my modem and router further away to reach all parts of my house better. So I was laying the Ethernet cable and as I was plugging it into the router I just thought maybe that would give it just that little tiny boost. But I just won’t do it now. Thanks for that
This sas me back in the day lol so funny 🤣
Do people not know power line ethernet adapters are a thing? Look if up on Amazon, you just plug one into the wall by your router and one next to your PC. Clean and strong connections.
There’s a few caveats to this. I had a good set of powerline adapters that still ended up with worse performance than a usb wireless dongle.
If the outlets are in different circuits or you have a house with old wiring there’s a good chance they won’t work
Granted I’ve only used it in 2/3 houses but they’ve always given me the best speed, at least in the past 5-10 years. They used to be much worse if you’re basing this on old experience. And also the oldest house I used them in only got 2MBps so it wasn’t exactly hard for them to get to top speed. My current place isn’t exactly new wiring and the copper cables still get my max speed of 11MBps.
Yeah you won’t get the full experience of gigabit connection through copper wall cables but I’ve never lived in a place with fast enough WiFi for that to matter. I much prefer a cable free house, I have a power cable going to my server in a cupboard and I really hate it, wish there was a power socket in there.
That’s fine if you’re simply trying to max out your net, but for large internal file transfers EoP are a nuisance vs GbE.
Depending on the model, and your electric network, you might get some disconnects though. Had that at my parents years ago, ended up doing exactly what the meme is
If I wanted to do powerline best I could do is get 3 rooms next to me, certainly not floor above or below me.
From my experience, power line adapters are very hit or miss depending on your house setup. I’ve had power line adapters that couldn’t even get above 10 Mbps. I feel like the next best thing besides just straight up Ethernet cables is something called MoCA adapters. They use the already existing (in most houses) coax cables, which allow for much higher throughput and very consistent connection. I’ve had peaks of 850-900 Mbps with 10ms latency using MoCA adapters.
Yep. Got one transferring 1 gig fiber between floors, and the upstairs regularly gets full speed through it. Highly recommended if you can do it.
thanks for this!
Just be careful, they can be pretty expensive and often way way slower than advertised.
The main reasons I use them are places you lack WiFi coverage, where reliability is more important than speed.
I’m guessing Ethernet would be transmitted over the electrical wiring? if that’s the case, if your house have different circuits it wouldn’t work?
It actually CAN work across circuits, I believe, but it’s significantly degraded. Like 5-10 Mbps bad.
What in tarnation is this black magic? I don’t know how I’ve never heard of these before.
If your house is wired for cable and you’re not using it, they also have MOCA which is way way better.
Coax cables are wicked fast and you can use them alongside network switches to get LAN all sorts of places you’d normally have issues.
They’re good/reliable enough that it’s worth the £20-30 to try a set out. Although like another guy commented bad wall wiring can sometimes have effects if your router is really fast, I get my full 11MBps through my walls easily enough in relatively old housing.
11mbps, even if that’s megabytes not bits, is pretty fuckin slow as far as network speeds today. That’s either 1/100th or 1/10th of gigabit speeds, and a good Ethernet cable can provide well over gigE nowadays
Which only really matters if your actual internet connection can do the same.
Or in other words, it depends, so each one should try to get the right solution for their situation.
I didn’t realize that the only thing people used network connections for was Internet connections. Wow thanks for letting me know.
Lots of ISPs offer way more than 100mbps, many places offer past 1gbps. Even if they don’t, there are many LAN-based things that run even if you don’t know they do. P2p software updates are widespread now. So yeah “it depends” on whether you care about a fast and stable network connection.
Not to mention, power line is a shared medium, much like wifi, so if you have two computers, kiss even your already slow speeds goodbye
First, I suggest you read the last 12 words of my post rather than reacting to your own interpretation of my comment as a personal dig at you.
Second, Ethernel over Power sharing is only up to the first circuit breaker, whislt WiFi sharing is only limited by metal surfaces, walls and distance.
This means that in some situations (for example appartments in appartment buildings) EoP “sharing” is entirelly dependent on what devices a person puts on the same electrical network (i.e. the power line branch sharing the same circuit breaker) whilst WiFi is a complete total hellhole of everybody screwing everybody else.
Further, people sometimes rent the place they live in, not own it and getting permission to run wire along the walls might be impossible whilst investing in improving the landlord’s property by having wire run within the existing paths inside the wall (usually shared with power wire) is usually not exactly smart.
So Ethernet Over Power is a possible solution that should be considered in light of the situation and used if appropriate or discarded if not.
Looking at and evaluating the various solutions in light of the context is the Engineering approach to solving problems, so it makes sense to present a possible solution in a public forum when one’s intention is to help others.
A self-centred “it’s not good in my situation hence it’s shit and anybody who says otherwise is insulting me” take does nothing to help others.
My original comment was about how slow Ethernet over power was and you claimed that only matters if your internet is faster. There are lots of situations where you’d run cable where that statement isn’t true. If you had said “sure it’s slower but it still works sometimes” that’s a wildly different statement than the equivalent of “speed only matters if it’s the bottleneck to the internet”
Power line adapters are usually fairly separated by different circuits, but that’s far from a hard limit. Just because there’s not a reliable connection between two circuits doesn’t mean the medium isn’t shared and interference can’t happen - it is very much like wifi through a cement wall or two.
In no way am I personally offended, I just used some sarcasm to show how inane that original statement is; and those kind of statements are everywhere in networking discussions.
Yeah, it’s an old house and I’m not paying for gigabit internet because whenever I have I’ve literally never gotten the advertised speeds. I’m sure it’s good enough for 99% of people, I have the best internet of all my friends lol. But yeah, you won’t get the full gigabit speeds through copper wires if that’s what you can get from your router in other ways.
Pretty sure nowhere apart from ugly new builds and student housing really gets modern internet speeds in the UK. I got one dude who’s still in the same city as me on like 10mb/s. My other friend just bought unlimited 4g because it’s better than their shit WiFi.
This is as dumb as asking if people don’t know wifi exists. Yeah, pretty much everyone knows, but it has substantial tradeoffs to just running a long cat6 cable, one of which likely is plain cost.
run the cable to a switch make it so 1/2 the house depends on it, after enough time youll justify doing it better
How many are 100ft?
100
30 meters.
Thanks
30,48 meters.
Come on, be accurate. The metric system isn’t based on random body parts or things laying around that came in handy once upon a time 400 years ago
I had to buy carpets to hide the cable under them when running across the floor. Only exposed parts go through the doorways, and the wife complains about them. Well, I am not complaining about our craptastic wifi anymore.
If you own your house you could learn to pull cable and how to do punchdowns. It’s not a super difficult job. That way you could impress the lady of the house with your technical skills while also hiding the mess.
In my experience, the part about hiding the mess is all she cared about, as long as “the internet still works.”
But you will always look at that wall jack and feel great about it while always having the lowest latency and highest throughput you can possibly get, and that will always impress yourself!
Honestly for newbies I always recommend inline couplers instead of punchdowns. Still meets electrical code in areas where you can’t run a cable through a wall (wiring only) and allows for the use of non-crimped cables so the barrier to entry is far lower. It’s not like most houses are at risk of hitting the length limits for Ethernet runs anyway.
I’d be careful giving broad advice like this.
In my country (Australia) it’s illegal to run cabling yourself unless you’re a registered cabler.
Even for an Ethernet cable? Surely not.
I seem to remember that yes, it was even for low voltage data cabling.
Not that I would imagine anyone’s enforcing it strongly
I think the enforcement would come with insurance when your house burns down, they can point at “unlicensed” cables
Would they be able to prove it wasn’t installed by a licensed contractor? Ok, if you have it installed legally then you’ll likely have an invoice/receipt, but if you lose it that doesn’t mean the cable is illegal. So if you did it yourself, how would they know it’s not just a case of a missing invoice?
I’m not saying it would go anywhere, but with how scummy insurance companies are they might try it. Still, it’s a bullshit law
You learn something new every day. That’s insane!
I’m sorry you live in authoritariansville.
Even low voltage? That’s kinda crazy to me.
I was staying with some friends and we were all Computer users and gamers, Ethernet cables sprawled across the floor to every room in the place, and when we got tired of tripping over it, we duct taped them down to the floor where they stayed until we moved out.
This is the way.
I still don’t know whether that is a kangaroo or a rat.
They let me go in the attic and run the internet line into my room (it was a 75ft cable). Now we use 5G, but are planning direct fiber once our city halves cost for service.
