The planet’s average temperature hit 17.23 degrees Celsius on Thursday, surpassing the 17.18C record set on Tuesday and equalled on Wednesday.

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    What they don’t want you to know is that the Earth’s orbit changed and we’re swinging in closer and closer to the Sun. The vaccine was actually nanites meant to help protect us from upcoming radiation and other atmosphere changes.

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      We can all do our part. That doesn’t mean the problems will be solved, but we can all do our part to implement the solution.

      Discussion is important. Conservation is important. The biggest issue here isn’t really the individual; it’s society. Change can’t happen in a vacuum. The only way society will change is if, you know, it changes. i.e. people need to be willing to sacrifice short term gains for long term benefit.

      If it was sexy to do less, these problems would be solved overnight.

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      Going vegan would help for sure. Less animal products consumed means less animal products produced means waay less pollution.

      A lot of change needs to happen on a government-level too, of course, but that is a very tangible, easy-to-achieve goal everyone can do.

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      Realistically, as an individual? Nothing. I hate doom posting but i genuinely don’t think there is a single tangible change any one regular person could make.

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      The best you can realistically do is vote for people who care about solving the problem, and against people who ignore the problem.

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        And if the only ones who don’t accept bribes lobbying from oil, gas, and coal companies are independents and third parties who have no chance of winning anything because your country’s voting system is first past the post? Then what? ~Strawberry

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      I’ve left windows open all year and no humidity issues. I almost always have them during the Spring and Summer other years. I’ll take it, I hate humidity.

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      If the temperature this summer has been warmer than normal for you, then the lower humidity could be caused by the additional heat.

      Warm air will process more moisture than cooler air.

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    Maybe I’ve consumed too much sci-fi over the years. I’ve always thought the primary goal should be that of making this species a space fairing one. Secondary, they to extend the life of this planet as much as possible. It will die one day, that’s unavoidable.

    At the present, it looks like neither are being achieved. It’s all just going to collapse on itself. Maybe the human population 2.0 can resurface and try again after the planet kills almost everyone.

    I feel sorry for the younger generation and my peers with children.

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      Nope, see the problem is that our civilisation has used all the most readily accessible natural resources, oil, copper, tin, iron, coal, gold, silver, etc. The problem now is that if our civilisation collapses and there’s a significant loss of technological capacity, any emergent civilisation may never develop the capacity to reach or process adequate amounts to enable a technological rediscovery. Yay.

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        metals dont disappear tho, they can be salvaged from the ruins of the previous civilization. but i agree coal/oil are a problem.

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          Good luck relying on the coin flip that civilisation gets to a point it can make use of those before they all oxidise, metals don’t last forever, nor do they maintain the capacity for all applications due to quality.

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            Yep. I’m a mechanic, no expert of course but what I know from experience? Metals aren’t eternal. They rust, they corrode, they oxidize (lol) they break in strenuous (or light) application and just in general aren’t guaranteed. Nothing is. Wiring constantly fails. Batteries go dead. To top it off, we don’t make things to last anymore. Everything seems to be made to last just until the warranty expires. Personally I consider every single product that isn’t built to last as long as possible an utter waste of resources. I think it should be illegal to manufacture items that will only last a short time. Companies use up resources like we have an infinite supply so they can profit. Making vehicles that can hit 160-200 mph that will only ever travel on roads with a speed limit of 70-80 tops should be illegal. Hell, racing in general just shouldn’t be legal, wasting all of these previous finite resources to go fast? All that time, all that technology for something useless? It’s all so ridiculous.

            I work on vehicles/equipment that are 30-50 years old that are much more reliable than the vehicles of the past 20 years. Simpler to work on too. If we ever do truly see Armageddon and lose the world as we know it, people are going to experience hell trying to get vehicles to run. Even the best mechanics I know can’t fix many of the issues the new vehicles present without vehicle specific programs that the manufacturers won’t release to the public. They’re making vehicles/equipment that people won’t be able to even use much less repair if society collapsed.

            Yet an old truck from the 70’s? Almost anyone can learn to work on them and you don’t need any fancy tools to get them running. Can do damn near anything you need to with some vice grips, a flathead, a christen wrench and maybe a hammer.

            It’s getting bad. We would have had enough resources to sustain us for many, many years to come. Silver, gold, platinum? We mined and used most of it for what, jewelry?

            Steel, iron etc? Building skyscrapers for millionaires to live in at overly expensive rates?

            People are homeless, people are starving, people are living in poverty

            And we had all the resources needed for a utopian civilization but traded it all so a small percentage of the population could live like Kings.

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              I work on vehicles/equipment that are 30-50 years old that are much more reliable than the vehicles of the past 20 years.

              I think you’re confusing durability for reliability here.

              30-50 year old vehicles will go forever, but usually need small repairs fairly often. Modern vehicles will do 200k-300k km with no problems, and then everything bad starts happening, because it’s not like anyone maintains them.

              So the 30-50 year old ones are more durable, but the newer ones are more reliable. Until they’ve reached the end of their useful life, that is.

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                There’s also survivorship bias. All the crapily designed cars from 30-50 years ago are long scraped while some of the well designed ones are still around. With “current” cars you see the whole spectrum.

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        I disagree, if you’ve looked at all the advances in technology made over the last 1,2,300 years. If there was to be a great extinction event with some survivors - they’d bounce back relatively quickly.

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          I disagree, what’s different from previous civilizations is our usage of energy. We found fossil fuels which are basically conveniently stored sunlight and we have used this abundance to help ourself to do more while using less stored energy in our bodies.

          There isn’t that much oil left which especially behaves like miraculous liquid, kind of like magic. Without it our society would collapse and majority of people would be required to go back to fields to grow food.

          Any survivors wouldn’t have all the currently existing technology as most easily accessible recourses are already gathered. All while current inventions continue to decay and require replacement eventually, leaving behind only mountains of trash.

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            Yeah you’re taking sense. Although in the situation of the population dropping drastically to a core survivor population, you might find there to be less of a limit on resources.

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              I think that some of those resources would probably continue to dwindle, even if we all just dissapeared today. That’s a big part of what’s so scary about this. Climate change is progressing beyond what we can “undo”. Now, they’re also seeing greenhouse gases being released from melting ice and soil. The heating won’t suddenly stop if we all died today.

              Many living organisms require certain living conditions. Who’s to say that this heat won’t eventually start to destroy the chances of growing most crops? What if these massive forest fires become a lot more common? How many animal species will die? More floods, droughts, storms, and severe heat events are all on our horizon.

              I would like to believe what you suggest, but it might be optimistic at this point. We all need to help eachother to survive this, as an entire species (including the rich people ofc).

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      I’ve always thought the primary goal should be that of making this species a space fairing one.

      What? Why??

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        Because ultimately if we don’t leave this rock we go extinct. Guaranteed.

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          I dunno, man. A species using up all the resources available in its isolated home, only to develop the ability to use those stolen resources to go to other nearby bodies and use up their resources as well… Makes me think of a virus. If that’s how our species survives, I’d rather we didn’t.

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            Even if we were able to live in complete harmony with the planet and not exhaust our resources we’d undoubtedly go extinct for one reason or another. I’m not necessarily talking about resources.

            But yeah, what you’ve described is how we’re existing at present anyway.

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              I think that achieving space colonization will only happen if we bring this world to the brink of destruction and the 5 people with all the money at that time decide to spend it all to escape. If we do achieve harmony it’ll be after those guys have already left to go destroy another world, and those left behind who survive the millennia of desolation as the world falls apart and puts itself back together again finally get the picture and treat their home with respect. And even then all it’ll take is one self-centered, power-hungry person being born for the exploitation to come back again.

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        Not who you replied to but I agree with their sentiment and will tell you why.

        1: At the rate at which we’re destroying it, our planet won’t sustain us forever so unless we’re going to change our ways which most, especially big corps that do the most damage for profit, won’t we need to focus on an exit strategy for the inevitable.

        2: The sun will also die eventually of course. Won’t be for a long time (hopefully) but that alone means earth isn’t a forever solution for us and if we live long enough, eventually we will have to leave.

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      Feel happy for the thousands or millions of generations who will never have to suffer being born.

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      Nah, we have already exploited everything that can be easily exploited. Look at the effort we need to get new oil or metal deposits. Humans 2.0 will struggle to build basic machinery.

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      Human self-sufficiency in space— what’s needed for any real redundancy-- is for sure >50 and probably >250 years away.

      Space settlements are going to need support from Earth for the conceivable future.

      Even a destroyed planet from global warming or the middle of the ocean is infinitely more hospitable than the space environment.

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      I’ve known for decades that we humans are failed species that will eventually go extinct. Tbf, everyone are and new species come and go. It has been quite interesting and often sad watching our overshoot while many people have lived in hubris and thought we’d conquer the space one day.

      The Earth is one special place in space where life has been born. I have no clue why that has happened but I’m thankful for having been alive and been able to witness larger life cycle in this planet.

      I doubt any species will ever conquer the galaxies. It seems that life consumes energy and uses it to grow until it one day collapses.

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        Yeah. I was born too late to explore earth, born too early to explore space, but born just in time for dank memes. I’m honestly very grateful for that. We live in a pretty exciting time, as sad as it is that we’ll eventually all go extinct.

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          That “born too late to explore earth” bit hits my heart big time. I’ve always been sad that we can’t do that anymore like we used to be able to. People a thousand years ago could just leave and explore if they wanted, then pitch a tent somewhere beautiful and live there if they chose. If you wanted you could live at the top of a mountain, or inside of a cave covered by a waterfall. Such beauty and freedom. It’s sad that a thousand years later, all of our “progress” has essentially taken away nearly all of our freedom in that regard. You never had to be hungry back then, you could hunt or plant food nearly anywhere you pleased. Never had to be homeless, you could fell some trees and build a cabin somewhere beautiful. Now? Most people are fortunate if they can afford a vacation a few hours away once every year or so, if that. There’s no peace of mind, we all work work work and scramble to fulfill as many of our endless obligations as possible. Then we retire, if fortunate enough and hopefully don’t have to work as hard for a little bit and die. I’ve always had dreams of sailing the sea and exploring, almost like memories in my mind. Maybe it’s a past life, maybe it’s memory passed down through my DNA, maybe it’s fantasy. I don’t know what it is, but I know that it’s what feels right to me. Planting down and living in our homes/work almost our entire lives then dying feels so wrong. I care almost nothing about material wishes or monetary gain, but I’d like to be rich in order to travel and feel free.

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            Some serious rose tinted glasses looking back on history there! At what point in time are you thinking about? For most of history I’d have had fealty to some land owner. I’d say we have more freedom and opertunity to experience the world now than before.

            You can still explore the planet for yourself, just because something has been experienced by someone before you shouldn’t take too much away from your joy if experiencing it.

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            Honestly, I kind of agree. I travelled a little bit here or there when I was younger, nothing too crazy, only been out of my continent once in my life. I’m definitely starting to get a bit more wanderlust, but it’s so expensive to travel so far away lol

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            A little bit of carbon fiber, resin, and a $30 Logitech wireless controller, and you can explore the bottom of the ocean and see the Titanic up close.

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        What is a “failed species?” Do you believe there is a win condition on the universe?

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          I’m sorry if that sounded too harsh.

          I consider finding econiche and surviving in it a win condition. When scaling it to whole universe, it would be being able to exist without consuming and decaying their environment they need for their existence.

          Unfortunately, or not, I don’t think there is a single species that can live forever. I think all life is based on consumption, one eating something else and growing until it exceeds its limits in environment, after which it decays to meet its carrying capasity.

          Eventually sun no longer provides sunlight and plants stop growing. Chemosynthetic bacteria and some fungi may still use some compounds as their energy source, but they have limits as well and eventually all life simply perishes.

          So do I believe or think there is something to win? To me simply being alive is a win. The space seems very empty and deadly to me. It’s miraculous that we exist, although sad that we are causing extinction event.

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            Unfortunately, or not, I don’t think there is a single species that can live forever. I think all life is based on consumption, one eating something else and growing until it exceeds its limits in environment, after which it decays to meet its carrying capasity.

            Just recently I saw a very interesting veritasium video about entropy. He explains that life acts to increase entropy. Before entropy, nothing exciting happens. After entropy, nothing exciting will ever happen again. But as life causes entropy, that’s when the excitement and magic happens.

            It’s an extremely profound video, and may give you comfort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxL2HoqLbyA&t=0

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              I think it’s cool that life is technically a natural geological phenomenon, the building blocks of RNA are naturally occurring amino acids that hitch rides on space debris that after interacting with the right combination of other inorganic material creates a recursive entropy system that develops the capacity to comsume other materials to continue the natural chemical reactions that extract the necessary building blocks to sustain itself thus becoming an “organism”, basically an organic black hole of entropy, and this chain of chemical reactions eventually resulted in consciousness, then cognizance, and now we’re here, a natural geological product of the universe with the capacity to observe and understand itself.

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      Humans treat this planet like we’ve got someone else to go.

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    This is going to be painful for us as a species. I don’t think it will render us extinct, but the weather will get significantly worse and we will probably see widespread coastal flooding in this century, which will lead to hundreds of millions of refugees. We still have plenty of time to prepare and to change course, but I fear that we will wait until a global crisis is on our doorstep before we make serious changes.

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      Any corrections we make won’t take major effect until well after we are fucked. It’s why having kids is kind of insane to me because they are going to have a fucked future.

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        On the other hand, there is no one else, probably in the whole universe, who can preserve life as we know it. And I am not just talking about humans.

        Think about philosophical questions like: “What is the reason life exists?”. Potentially, the answer is there is no reason. But what if there is something else out there which could give life a reason to exist?

        Perhaps somewhere down a million years some lifeform could make the universe continue to exist. When we die now this is quite literally the end. No one else will preserve life beyond the existence of the earth or our solar system when someday the sun burns out. I highly doubt octopuses or cockroaches will evolve to build space ships and protect life any time soon. It’s just us.

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          Oh that’s an easy one, life exists to further the entropy of the universe. That’s the only reason. Entropy cannot be reversed, and it’s extreme is inevitable.

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          We are not that special. And if we were, it wouldn’t matter anyway. We are just going to kill ourselves.

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          In agreement with your broader point but a different approach: to say that we should die out as a species due to climate change is over-simplifying, imo. Yes, there are hardships ahead and we truly need to look at ourselves as a species and ask what needs to change for the sake of ethics and others. However, we have been in dire situations before, albeit with less foreknowledge. Would someone living in, say, 1840 have wished that humanity had died out in the bronze age collapse, when the near-entirety of known civilization collapsed due to climate change?

          When considering the entire species we can’t take such a short term view. Yes, hard times are ahead. Yes, we will get through it. I say if one is inclined not to have kids, he should not have kids. But if one is inclined to do so, he should do so

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            I’d strongly recommend the book “The Beginning of Infinity” by David Deutsch for a wider perspective on what you’ve stated. Humanity has always had problems and been in some ways on the verge of extinction perpetually, but we as a species find ways to solve these problems.

            It’s weird how many users resort to instant doom and gloom (like not having kids?) when its another problem that will take hard work to solve. Just a quote from his book -

            “It is inevitable that we face problems, but no particular problem is inevitable. We survive, and thrive, by solving each problem as it comes up. And, since the human ability to transform nature is limited only by the laws of physics, none of the endless stream of problems will ever constitute an impassable barrier. So a complementary and equally important truth about people and the physical world is that problems are soluble. By ‘soluble’ I mean that the right knowledge would solve them.”

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              Yes,but…

              The problem as I see it, is we’d need to revert to what’s little better than subsistence farming (in a village model) in order to weather the storm that’s coming. That’s fundamentally at odds with people’s day to day interest and our greed…

              Carbon sequestering helps, but we still need to drastically downsize our daily conveniences (oh, and fuck cars!), which our brain is basically wired against doing (in terms of a short term pain with an eye on the long term benefit).

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                I agree we likely need to downsize a lot of our daily conveniences (yeah fuck cars!) But I’d urge against trying to envision the solution before working on solving the problem. Saying we need to resort to subsistence farming in communities - why? We create food on a massive scale currently, and tons of it go to waste. Additionally so much of agriculture is lost to inefficiency through the meat industry.

                Surely it would make more sense to focus on those two levers first before resorting to what sounds like feudal society.

                Not looking to debate details, just urging a rational and realistic approach through steps that are achievable.

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      I don’t think it will render us extinct.

      Oh, it probably will, though the memory of us may live on after that.

      In fact, arguably it happened long ago, and we’re currently in an echo of the past in a very immersive history lesson simultaneously teaching the grandeur and folly of humanity.

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        I mean, even if we went extinct tomorrow our mark on this planet is permanent because of all the damn plastic, much of which will probably fossilize. Even still, the extreme weather and extinction events on the way I don’t think are enough to end us, there will probably be some stragglers that struggle by in the ashes of the old world if nothing else.

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      Millennials had the honour to participate in wars for pil. The coming generations will have the pleasure to kill over fresh water

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        Also climate refugees will become a regular thing, people doing anything to pass borders as it’s life or death for particularly exposed nations. This is already happening but will no doubt get even worse, breeding even more extremism and nationalism that bring onto a whole other slew of issues as a package deal of extreme nationalism. Fun times.

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    I was planning on dying one day anyway. Whether it’s from cancer or needing to eat my own neighbor for survival, it’s all the same at this point.

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      Deep down, it’s wild to know that humanity’s peak was ultimately undone by less than 1% of the population convincing everyone else that greed is good.

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          Not at all. We’ve averted crisis’before. We’ve even created a middle class with heavy taxes on the wealthy for a better society. The greedy have been working the powerful and are sabotaging everything for short term gain.

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        I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again:

        Don’t “Eat the Rich”. Use them for fertilizer, and solve two problems at once

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          But we can solve three problems at once if we eat the rich then use our own excrement as fertilizer.

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    At this rate there will only be one place to escape to that hasn’t been corrupted by capitalism - SPACE.

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      Nah, that’ll be 2026-2027 some time. The overall trend takes a decade or so to exceed the smaller scale ~3yr oscillations.

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          It’s more that climate is the long-term average, while weather is the variation around the average. So while there is an trend in the average temperature, the variation means that there will still be hotter and cooler periods.

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          Yes. The average temperature of the globe is higher, but global warming is not applied evenly and the chaos caused to global weather currents does actually cause some regions to get colder.

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        Yeah, I have the windows open right now and yesterday I wore a sweatshirt. Its usually 110+ right now.

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    Graphic of ice cover for the Antarctic is truly terrifying