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    How disappointed we will all be when all the boomers are dead and it doesn’t solve any of our problems.

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      We’ll just have to see, won’t we?

      Plus, it’s not like the climate will just snap back into place when the boomers are finally too old for their skeleton talons to cling to power. That shit is going to take generations of sacrifice to roll back, if it doesn’t topple civilization first.

      https://www.noaa.gov/news-release/warmest-arctic-summer-on-record-is-evidence-of-accelerating-climate-change

      The whole ethos of the majority of baby boomers seems to have been to raze the forest they got to enjoy behind them (as opposed to planting trees whose shade they’d never sit in like most generations aspire to), and they seem to be having remarkable success in that.

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          The results speak for themselves. The majority of their generation’s attitudes about the results indicate satisfaction with the results.

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        Not the original commenter posing the lack of change when boomers die off, but to continue the direction they’re going.

        The reason the younger generations were moving toward a more progressive ideology is now fully under attack:

        1. open internet,

        2. freedom of communication globally,

        3. ability to both unite in protest but to unite empathetically with peoples all across the globe and in different societal conditions (global communication melting pot reminiscent of Blue cities that sOoOoOo frightens conservatives),

        4. the earlier push in standardized and progressive education (and tangentially the separation of church and state and teaching of factual history and science)

        5. the attack on women’s rights (when it comes abortion/medical rights)*

        6. and finally the attack on voter rights and the war of misinformation.*

        The conservatives have figured everything out. They’re directly destroying* all of that to further keep the lower classes (non-elite) from growing out of their control. I fear we’re not going to get as many AOCs over the next few decades but more MTGs, Boebart, that weirdo from Florida, etc in our younger politically charged generation.

        Edit: more visually appealing bulletting of items, two additional bullets, and a typo

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          The wealthy are savvy but with the boomers gone they lose a lot of their support. Of course they will try to maintain the status quo, but the people will be affected by the material conditions and see the truth. The only thing we have to fear is hate, but MTG, Boebart and Desantis were all elected by Boomers. Young people don’t vote for those idiots. I’m more concerned about Andrew Tate.

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            The weirdo from FL I was referring to was that guy who sex trafficked underage women; ‘Matthew Gaetz’, might have been his name, maybe?

            But, yes. The conservative trending podcast guys are ridiculous, too.

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          This isn’t new though, many boomers were the hippies at one point, they had the photocopier, fairness doctrine TV & Radio and liberal attitudes for sex, gender, and civil rights.

          But the same tactics were used to stop and convert many of them, plus around half of them were the same sort of assholes that give them a bad name now.

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      The next most conservative generation is Gen X. All few dozen of us. Expect those with power to retain it with massive use of wealth to constrain the rules of democracy, rather than numbers of voters.

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      They’re smart to balance their checkbooks on the way out. They never let any opportunity to consume go to waste.

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      I dunno, I feel like if I lived through the Black Death and I was there when—at the end of the suffering, surrounded by death—the last plague rat died, I’d take it as a win…

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      The issues they left behind will last for generations. Funny that anyone could believe this goes away in our lifetime.

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        Or that we won’t make new problems that we get to blame on new generations. It will never end

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      It will solve the problem of their voting habits. They have lead us down this insane path because they are a narcissistic generation. Things won’t be perfect, but we might, just might, start turning things around. If we still can.

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      It’s not about a magic cure that’ll fix everything over night.

      It’s about repairing decades of harm done by a generational mindset that valued wealth acquisition and material possession above every other facet of society. We won’t fix that trauma in one, two, or three generations but it will get better and better with time and distance to boomerism.

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        The values of wealth accumulation and materialism are not at all limited to or even expressed mostly strongly by the Baby Boomer generation.

        The line of thinking that capitalism dies with boomers or that Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z, or whatever comes next will not fully embrace capitalism and will move towards socialism or some other non-competitive society seems pretty naive.

        Humans are a competitive species. Most people want to win. I doubt this mindset dies with boomers.

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          I agree! A change of the mindset is generational change at best. In many cases flawed ideologies and poor educational standards are just beeing continued. Yet I want to be one of the naive and think that there will be a new way of thinking and noticeable political change. For the better or the worse…, who knows?!

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          The rich are very concerned about the fact that all statistical evidence pointing to younger generations being starkly more socially minded than boomers. Don’t forget that Millennials have lived through a major economic crisis. Just like the Great Depression, that generally makes people realize that Capitalism is bullshit.

          The wealthy are funding massive propaganda campaigns as a result. They are unfortunately making some in roads with young men. But overall I don’t think it will be enough.

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            Don’t forget that Millennials have lived through a major economic crisis.

            Yes, yes we have.

            I’ll be very interested to see how the younger generations age. Anecdotally, I’ve witnessed numerous people go from progressive socialists, to centrist capitalists as they age. Not saying that will continue, only saying this as I’ve seen similar studies that show younger people are more progressive than older folks every 5 years for the past 3 decades. It’s not a terribly new concept, and I’m hopeful that it remains true.

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          Humans are a co-operative species, same goes for our ape and monkey cousins.

          It is this instinctual nature of working together that enabled us to take down bigger prey, settle new lands, and become the dominant species on the planet.

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            I don’t disagree. That said, would suggest that externally we are cooperative, but internally we are competitive. Even in ape families, there exists a hierarchy generally ruled by the biggest, strongest male.

            Which brings us back to the point at hand. Will humans come together to solve climate change? Or will humans continue to try to win at all costs?

            I can see either as a possibility. But I don’t see boomers dying as a catalyst.

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      Because that’s how it works, right? When your house is flooded because of a burst pipe, when you replace the pipe then your house is magically unflooded right? I mean of course no reasonable person thinks that, but that seems to be the understanding you’re suggesting. Meanwhile you’re trying to say that if we do repair the pipe and the house is still flooded, rightly acknowledging that the pipe is 100% the cause of the flood is somehow… wrong?

      The facts are that boomers fucked the world up, heavily, and did everything they could to hold onto power and rob the next generation (at least) of their deserved place in the driver’s seat of society, and cleaning up the messes and lessons left over by the boomers will take generations to clean up. The fact that boomer built long-term systemic problem without simple solutions does not mean that the boomers are not entirely at fault or that we aren’t entirely better off without them.

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      And they’re not done yet! It’s also a shame they’ll probably waste the money they’ve accumulated on the worst possible things and people on the way out (fueling the dumpster fire).

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    2039 is the half-life of the boomer generation, assuming all of them were born in 1964 and will live exactly 75 years

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      That’s not what half-life means. Half-life comes from radioactive decay and is the time for half the atoms in a sample to decay. After half the atoms have decayed it takes another half-life for half the remaining atoms (a quarter of the original sample) to decay. There’s some fancy maths you can do to convert a sample size of 85 million with a half-life of 75 years into the time it takes for the last atom to decay but at an estimation of about 27 half-lives that’s 2025 years.

      Maybe that’s the real problem with boomers: their multi-thousand year lifespan!!

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    I find this insanely interesting. I hope someone does this for us Xers but I have a feeling that everyone will forget about us.

    And with this, I’m also interested in the rate of change here. Are boomers dying faster, slower, steady rate?

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      The greatest generation birthed the boomers, who did not live up to their parents’ reputation or expectation.

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    I don’t know any of the millennials pictured, and why no gen z pictures?

    Pretty neat overall, reminds me of that death clock thing from, like, 25 years ago.

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      Michael Jackson, Madonna, Steve Jobs, Keanu Reeves.

      I find it hard to believe anyone couldn’t recognize them, they are among the most famous people ever.

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        None of those people are Millennials 🙂 I checked out some other pages on the site, I knew all of the boomers for the reason you said.

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              Kendrick Lamar, Daniel Radcliffe (played Harry Potter), Ariana Grande, Justin Bieber. Radcliffe is the only one I would expect most people to get. Bieber hasn’t even been in the news cycle since before Covid, at least that I’ve noticed. Lady Gaga is more of a millenial pop icon than Grande. And Kendrick is definitely one of, if not the biggest name in hip hop right now, but unless you follow hip hop news you probably wouldn’t see him much in your newsfeed.

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                Whelp, all names I’ve heard! But not sure I’ve seen them much. I don’t think I have ever seen Harry Potter (I have no excuses). I have read some things about Lamar so have probably seen a picture. Maybe I should go give him a listen!

                Thanks for breaking it down.

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                  Lamar is great. Not the type to rap about money, women and getting fucked up. I’d recommend mAAd City, DNA., HUMBLE. to start with. I’m not big into rap, but Kendrick is great.

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    Not long ago I found out that my dad is too old to be a boomer. Apparently it’s called “the silent generation”.

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      The real question is if your grandma, on the other side, is from the same generation as your dad. Then shit gets weird.

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      are facing a future where aging and health issues may be a thing of the past.

      or, just as if not more likely, are facing a future where healthcare is a thing of the past… along with civilization, the ecosystem, etc.

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          complete planet destruction ?

          lost me there. complete ecosystem destruction for sure, but our ability to actually destroy the planet itself - eehhhh… the rock that birthed us will live long past our story.

          we’re certainly in for a bumpy ride, I hope for the best but at this point, feel it’s disingenous to feign optimism.

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    Interesting to look at, numbers wise… but it makes me think of the time I have left with my parents. I’m calling them tomorrow!