• Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world
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    Gin? Genetics? Giant?

    Do you pronounce Origin like Oregon?

    I personally find arguing pronunciation as entirely pointless when there are many words in English that get pronounced different based on a multitude of factors.

    People also like to argue it’s an acronym, but do you pronounce NASA the same as you pronounce the first letter of each word of National Aeronautics and Space Administration?

    Honestly? Just say it how it makes sense to you.

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      To me, “gif” just looks like “gift” without the final “t”, which is why I pronounce it exactly the same until the t

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      Not to mention the creator of GIF prefers the JIF pronunciation.

      It doesn’t really matter, but I find the hard g folks have a stick up their ass about it.

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        I understand your point in the creator but I find fault in that argument.

        Historically it doesn’t matter what the creator of anything prefers unless it’s an “unveiling” and they name it on the spot. People in general will take something and run with it regardless of the creators intent. The perfect example is “light saber” versus “laser sword.” (Edit forgot to add the word sword after laser)

        To be honest I don’t care all that much. If you say jif or gift without the t, either way I know what you are talking about.

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        Yeah, I have friends who say it with a hard g and I never say a damn thing, but I say jif once and it’s “jraphics” this and “jod” that. I get it, you watched that stupid video in 2012, congrats.

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          Maybe we should up the ante on this war, and start actively making fun of those who be hating on peanut butter. There are plenty of arguments for either pronunciation, but jiffers are losing the war bc we’re being so passive. Just living our lives, as if the pronunciation of a word doesn’t fucking matter if everyone knows what you mean…. We need to eradicate the culture of soft-g giffers

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      People also like to argue it’s an acronym, but do you pronounce NASA the same as you pronounce the first letter of each word of National Aeronautics and Space Administration?

      Um, yes?

      I’m assuming we’re talking about the two A letters here, since nothing comes to mind about a different pronunciation of N or S in American English.

      In American English - at least in my experience - the first sound in aeronautics is exactly the same as in “air,” which is also the same as in “administration.” We don’t generally say it as in “ear-onautocs.”

      Also, I’m curious - has anyone ever published a study describing whether or not the difference in pronunciation differs between sectors in the computer science community? Particularly, is there a difference between normal developers and those who write in a Lisp?

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      If you say otherwise I’d be willing to bet you weren’t on the internet in the 90s or 00s.

      Bullshit. It’s always been divisive.

      There’s literally a Wikipedia article covering the fact that this has been debated going back to the 90s.

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          The article cites the opinion of an unnamed author of an unnamed “image encyclopedia.” Not really what I’d call definitive, which was the point.

          In my circles back then, soft G was predominant. I wouldn’t cite that as evidence of a One True Pronunciation either.

          There has always been debate about it. Hard G has certainly become predominant, but declaring that people that prefer soft G “weren’t on the internet back then” is revisionist at best.

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          Well, with no numbers on that statement it could be as little as 51% of people. Chalk me up in the “online since BBSs” and I’ve always said soft g.

          I’m more concerned with the poll further down the page that has a staggering 2.8% of people who pronounce each letter individually.

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      Where the fuck did I find someone in real life to talk to about image formats? I always thought it was j. I can’t even recall any conversations about it until the 2010s.

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      Sorry but no. Jif is what i said back then, and what i will say until i die. All the people i know have been calling it jif like “giraffe” and we will forever call it that. But if someone called it hard g gif i can understand what they are talking about just fine and i would literally pay 0 attention to it. Have better things to do. abcdef…gif.

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        Yeah I took digital art classes in the 90s and the teacher and all the students pronounced it jif. I never heard the hard g until that dumb YouTube video.

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          And it would be incorrect. The point is there are multiple ways to pronounce G in English, none more valid than the other. Heck, how do you pronounce G itself?

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    My old workplay everybody pronounced “Gigabyte” as “Jigabyte”, drove me nuts.

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    There’s a lawyer I like to watch on YouTube but once he advocated jif pronunciation and I’ve barely watched him since then. If he apologized I might change my opinion. What’s even worse is that he’s obsessed with proper pronunciation. I think he was just trying to create drama to drive interactions but for me it backfired.

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      It is infact Graphics Interchange format. Not Jirafics Interchange format.

      I know the creator pronounces it Jif, but there are lots of people in the world who pronounce things wrong.

      I offer up “niche”. It’s actually not nitch no matter how many people say it like that.

      Lookit all the nerds I triggered. Popcorn time!

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        Just like JPEG is pronounced as a JFEG, cause it stands for Joint Photographic Experts Group.

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        Scuba is Self-Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus. Do you pronounce it the acronym with a short U or a long U?

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        “There are lots of people in the world who pronounce things wrong”

        “Its actually not nitch no matter how many people say it like that”

        You’re this close to getting it.

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        Pardon me while I go feed my giant geriatric giraffe, George. He likes generic foods, so long as they are germ free and genetically unmodified.

        Afterwards, I’m gonna hit the gym, gently gesticulate while talking to someone about geography, geometry, and genetics, maybe consume some protein gel packs.

        As a genuine gesture of gentlemanly genius, my genuine German genie will conjure up some gems to pay for everything.

        Get the gist of what I’m saying?

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          This morning, I’m off to groom the goats and gather fresh eggs from the geese. The greenhouse needs tending too, with its gourds and guava plants.

          After that, I’ll glide on my skateboard along the gritty pavement, feeling the cool gusts. For lunch, perhaps a grilled cheese sandwich with gouda, and a glass of grapefruit juice.

          In the afternoon, a game of golf awaits, grueling yet galvanizing. And as dusk falls, I’ll gaze at the glimmering stars, grasping the grandeur of the galaxy.

          Then I’ll grab my guitar, gleefully strumming glorious melodies.

          Next, I’ll gear up for gaming, getting into go-kart racing and guild quests. Great for unwinding and igniting gusto.

          Then, on to grub: guacamole with garlic, garnished with green onions, alongside golden tortilla chips, goulash, gumbo, gazpacho, gravy, granola, gorgonzola, and graham crackers. A gourmet, gratifying snack.

          Later, I’ll grab my gardening guide, to gain groundbreaking insights on growing gardenias. Guiding the creation of a grand, lush grove is very gratifying.

          Before bed, a glance at tomorrow’s goals: glazing pottery, a new, gripping hobby.

          Does this give a good glimpse into my day?

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            Most of your hard g’s have a consonant as the second letter, I don’t think it’s as strong of an argument.

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            PHOTOGRAPHIC. PHOTOGRAPHIC. PHOTOGRAPHIC. It’s pronounced j-feg.

            Acronyms don’t give a fuck what the original pronunciation of the words used to make them are. Sorry, you lose.

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                If “gif” has to be pronounced with a hard G because it stands for “graphics,” then the P in “jpeg” has to be pronounced like an F because it stands for “photographic.”

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    Here’s another to add to the pronunciation wars. RetroArch is pronounced RetroArk. Which I will die on that hill because Arch stands for either Architecture or Archive. Too many times have I heard people on YouTube make it sound like McDonald’s golden arches.