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    Their foil is pretty good at keeping stuff fresh too (as well as making good anti-mind-control hats)

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    The nightshade family also gives us a lot of important vegetables. Potatoes, tomatoes, and peppers being the most common but others as well.

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      I love all those vegetables but if I had to give up allium or nightshades, I’d give up nightshades.

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        I love garlic as much as the next guy, but I don’t think I could imagine food without potatoes

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      And then there’s Brassica oleracea, where it’s not even a family, but one single species that brings us a heap of classic veggies including cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, Brussels sprouts, and gai lan. If you expand to its family you can add turnip, bok choy, radish, wasabi, as well as the majority of source vegetables in the eponymous “vegetable oil”.

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        Brussel sprouts? That’s not a vegetable, that’s heresy! Awful stuff. The rest can be good, depending on the context though.

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          For what it’s worth, though I don’t think I’ve ever had them in any form, I’ve heard that the poor reputation of Brussels sprouts is due to the popular way of cooking them in the '30s through '80s being to boil the shit out of them. They’re supposed to be quite good if you cook them the right way.

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            They’ve also had a lot of the bitterness bred out of them since the 90s. The ones I’ve eaten recently are less bad than I remember as a kid.

            They’re still bad tho

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              They should never have been consumed bitter. When they are frozen the bitter substance is destroyed. In former times this implied being harvested only after the first night frosts in autumn, never before. Nowadays there might be some more artificial ways to achieve the same result more reliable. (Perhaps by breeding, too, I’m not sure about this part.)

              Taste changes with age, too. The younger, the sweeter and the older, the bitterer people prefer.

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          That’s an existential crisis I’ve had after starting to eat vegan. Suddenly everything in your cupboard is a plant, with the exception of salt and sometimes mushrooms.

          It’s just like: I’ll now eat this noodle-shaped plant with this pureed plant and this protein-rich plant and I’ll also throw in some tasty plant shreds. Maybe I should also have some plant leaves with a dressing out of plant oil, fermented plant juice and this plant seed paste.

          But then I realized that meat, eggs, cheese, milk, and even mushrooms, they’re all just processed/digested plants, too. So, there’s only plants and salt. Which really didn’t make the existential crisis any better, but at least we’re all in it together. 🙃

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    I once had a coworker who just took a bite out of a raw onion right in front of me. They were completely unfazed, like it was an apple or something. I’m still a little emotionally scarred.

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        No, I don’t think so. He was a younger guy from the southern US, if I remember correctly. Is that something east europeans do on the regular??

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          As an eastern european, we eat everything with onions and garlic. Hell, I even eat onions on their own time to time, it tastes good.

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          Southern guy probably was eating a Vidalia onion. The soil is low in sulfur, I believe, and has a more neutral acidity, so the onion is pretty uniquely sweet. I heard one older southerner call them dirt apples.

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          Younger guy from the southern US here, I have done this just to fuck with people. I’m just not very sensitive to the “bite” onions are supposed to have. I can chop quite a few of them before my eyes start to water.

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              It sounds like an old wives tale, and maybe I’m naturally resistant, but if I consistently press my tongue to the roof of my mouth as I chop onions, I do not cry.

              Anecdotal, of course.

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      I once knew a guy who peeled and ate a full garlic like one would do with an orange or mandarin, while walking and talking casually.

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      I had a surly paternal grandmother who seemed to revel in making the lives of children miserable.

      When I was about four years old, I asked for a snack, and she gave me a raw onion.

      I sat at the kitchen table and ate the entire fucking thing like it was the sweetest piece of fruit known to history, staring her in the eye the whole time.

      If I had been just a little bit older and thought of it, I would’ve asked her for another one.

      She died when I was seven. My reaction to this, as she lived in Washington State, was, “Does that mean we get to see Mount Saint Helens?” as the volcano had gone off just a couple weeks prior.

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      There are actually onions that you can do that with. I think the soil where those are grown is low on sulfer or something so the onion cant make the chemical responsible for making your eyes water.

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    OOOOOOHHH ALLIUM NOT “ALLISM”… I was so confused what this had to do with nuerotypical and nuerodivergent people

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    There used to be an garlic restaurant near my old house and basically EVERYTHING was garlic based. It was heaven.

    Guess what. They had garlic ice cream and it was DELICIOUS. Nothing like I thought it would be. It was light and sort of fruity and sweet.

    Goddamit I miss that place.

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    It sucks having an allium intolerance… no one will take my garlic from me though, even if it makes me miserable later

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      It’s fine as long as you’re not a robot made out of aluminum or something.

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      I was this way for years. I eventually recovered a lot and slowly weened back onto them. Good luck and take care.

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        Thank you for the kind words! I didn’t know I could maybe have these again at some point in the future. Did you just try them every now and again to see how you reacted? Do you still need to watch out?

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          Same for me when i had ibd (still do but in remission). But after bettering my gut microbiome I could eat everything again.

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          Just saw this. For me, I found a medication that helped me a lot and I worked on my diet as well. Not just fodmaps but slowly becoming vegan. That helped me regrow my gut biome a lot. I also experimented with fecal transplants, believe it or not. And I went to a pian clinic and they injected a numbing agent into my nerves. This may or may not have been effective. I tried a lot of things. But I think the diet and medication were the most helpful. Then when I was a bit stronger I slowly tried a lit bit more garlic and onion powder and then eventually fresh garlic and onions. I would have a bit of a response but not much. And after a while that response went away.

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            What medication would that be? I have found enzymes that seem to help with fructans and GOS, do you mean those?

            I’ve heard of fecal transplants before, but that it’s simply unknown at this point if it helps with IBS. Hypnosis seems to be helpful for some people as well.

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              For sure, Celebrex, an NSAID. I had really bad pain and ended up in the hospital and was given Toradol and it helped immediately, and then the doctor gave me a prescription for celebrex afterwards, I took it daily for a while and that was years ago, now I take it as backup if things get bad.

              Ye, I suspected that my gut bacteria was a big part of the issue. I found when I did the transplants it always helped. But you have to jump through a lot of hoops to do it safely and effectively. And it may be illegal. And of course, the ick factor is real.