Steps then hike the Appalachian Trail
Breathing is at least 150k a year, that’s more than enough, even after taxes and has me covered when I’m old and can’t go for a walk anymore.
I don’t need more, I’d rather enjoy my quiet time and taking an walk and standing still for a while at a nice vista, enjoying the view. I don’t need the constant chase for money and even more money in my life and the stress of having to keep moving to get even more. When I walk at the beach with my better half, I’d rather think of how nice this is rather than how much this earns me.
Consider this: you can become a multimillionaire within a year of the step option, and have even less stress as you become able to live off investments for the rest of your life. You can even run for charity to have a more fulfilling life if you so choose, it stops being a constant chase for money.
Winning Capitalism is all about investing enough to take care of your needs indefinitely. With the step option, you win, and retain the ability to gain more money if you wish. With breath, you deprive yourself of that option.
Also keeps you in shape!
I don’t care about “winning capitalism”, I care about living a comfortable life and being able to pursue my hobbies. $150k a year is more than enough, and I don’t have to worry about investment bullshit, it’s just guaranteed constant income. As long as I’m alive, I’ll be breathing, that’s 100% guaranteed. Winning the stock market is not guaranteed, and being able to use my legs for the rest of my life is also not guaranteed.
Winning the stock market is guaranteed unless society collapses just by investing in a broad market fund. You don’t worry, you just make money. 150k is not enough in many cities to have a family, unfortunately, and you also can’t run for charity.
You don’t need to use your legs after the first bit. You get in shape, and then you have well over 150k, not losing to inflation with no raises ever again. You’re done.
Someone did the math. It’s $315,000 not $150.000. So plenty to live on and still have some left for investment.
As for winning capitalism: capitalism is a travesty that’s killing both people and the planet. I would rather people stop talking about winning such a system - there are truly no victors. To be the victor in capitalism is to be a cell of a tumor that slowly kills its host; you only live until you finish killing the host or the host fights back. We should kill and consume those responsible for capitalism like macrophages consume cancer.
Oh there are Victors, the only real chance at liberation a Proletarian can have is to either end Capitalism itself, or join the bourgeoisie. At least if you have a ton of money, you can donate to strike funds.
$150k per year for the rest of my life would be way more than enough for me and the lifestyle I want to live. I currently make less than that, but still have enough to invest and donate to charity, so this would be just a straight, guaranteed upgrade with zero changes to my current life.
I understand that I could make more with the steps option, but I’d be thinking about it. Any time I was off my feet, I’d be thinking to myself, “I’m missing out on money right now”, and I don’t want to have that nag for the rest of my life. Give me the no-work, no-change, fully automatic upgrade over the steps option every day of the week.
it’s funny how many armchair money managers we have here who want to give up huge passive income in order to… have more money to invest and eventually get passive income.
how much would an annuity that pays $150k/yr cost for somebody in their 20s or 30s? I can’t imagine it being less than $10 million. probably more like $50 million. so the logic is give up $10-$50 million in value, for the opportunity to maybe make it up in the long run, while hoping you never get injured or debilitated…
Per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_year 525,600 minutes per year
Per https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537306/ 12 breaths per minute for an adult (which you should be for the mind cesspool that is the internet)
525,600 minutes by 12 by $0.05 is $315,360.00 per year.
Breathing is at least 150k a year
I decry you as
needs improvementat maths.is at least
mf just OFSTED inspected my dude
I am old enough (and was a theatre geek as a kid) to know the number of minutes in a year without needing Wiki…
…Thanks, Rent.
How do you measure, measure a year?
Cups of coffee?
I have tthe benefit of a smart watch, so I know my stats quite well. Over the long term, I average 13 breaths per minute, or 18,720 breaths per day. That translates into $936 per day. When not injured, I average 22,000 steps per day, which would get me $5500 per day (currently injured, so no running, so I’m down to 12,000 steps or $3000 per day). Breathing would win only if I averaged fewer than 3744 steps per day. I think I get more just walking to my corner newsagent and back.
Averaging 22k? Damn. I consider 15k a busy day at work, 25k was a full day of work plus an hour and a half walk. I respect it.
Walking the kids to school, walking to the shop, and an average of 70-80 km of running per week. Life is good when you permanently work from home.
I agree with the permanent work from home, all thst commute time you save and all the dead times you can use for something else useful. On the other hand my lazy ass only averages 3.5k steps daily… I also walk everywhere, stuff I need is just too close… I also do some mtb once or twice a week tho
13k steps.
If im getting 2500 a day, 1800 after tax im good.
More time to walk to get junk food too.
You would also have an incentive to walk more so even if you’re normally very sedentary, you wouldn’t be after taking the deal.
It’s unfortunate that it’s steps and not based on calories or something, I do cardio but mostly resistance training. Can’t afford to lose gains or have to increase my food intake.
bruh, you don’t lose gains by walking, Dr.Mike form Rennessaince Periodization literally recommends walking as one of the best forms of increasing your calories burned without excess hunger or fatigue
The average person takes ~12 breaths per minute, so the left works out to ~$ 850 if you do absolutely nothing.
Generally, taking more steps will include taking more breaths, as you increase physical exertion, your breaths per minute goes up. It won’t be nearly as much of an increase to make up the difference for the increased value of steps.
Basically, I see this as two distinct paths. Low risk low reward, and higher risk higher reward. On the low risk side is breaths. Even if you become paraplegic, you will continue to earn. It will be less than the alternative in optimal conditions, but it will be earnings for every moment of your life for the rest of your life. On the high risk side, I see that you can very easily outpace the earnings of the alternative by simply being more active. The risk is that you need to keep active to earn. Any lazy days on the couch are going to cost you. Any days ill, bedridden or injured, will cost you.
This splits most into a more communal vs capitalistic view: where more long term thinkers would likely go with breathing, and more short term and capitalistic thinkers will go with steps.
If steps people take their income from those steps and invest wisely, they can secure more long term income, which is a good move, since it not only secures your position, but you can also pass on those benefits to future generations. People picking breath are going to be earning less overall, but continually and depending on conditions, could end up better for it in the long run, especially if they are faced with a disability that prevents them from walking.
Personally, I’d go with breaths. I want stability more than high earnings. My current lifestyle doesn’t lend itself very well to taking many steps per day, so in my current position, I’d probably make more that way. Also the idea that I can make money while I’m sleeping is appealing to me.
A consistent $600-1000 daily would result in more than $200,000/yr on the low end, which is more than double my current salary… In fact nearly triple.
So you’re telling me I can triple my yearly earnings by doing absolutely nothing differently? Sign me up.
I probably take 80,000 steps every week just with my job and hiking. Might as well make bank while I do it.
more short term and capitalistic thinkers will go with steps
I’m sorry, so Capitalists are always thinking short-term?
The left is already 600 Bucks a day. This is sufficient money. Hence the right should never be chosen. Greed is not always good. If you can have enough forever vs. More + downside/condition you should always choose the easy out.
It forces you to get in shape and you can start running to raise money for charity.
The recommendations for health is 5,000 to 10,000 steps per day, which is $1,250 to $2,500 per day.
While the first is better on the case of unexpected disability, the second is probably going to lead to a better life overall.
According to my watch I average 14,000 steps a day. I pace nonstop though. I can’t stand to stop moving.
I work out, and my job is fairly physical.
Averaging 15,000 steps on work days and 10,000 on off days.
So 95,000x0.25= $23,750 a week. $1.2M a year.
I’m taking the steps.
I am torn by this comment. The Internet says we take something like 20,000 breaths a day which is $1000 a day. Like you said that is plenty of money and you will collect it until the day you die.
On the other hand walking 10k steps a day is 1.5x that, and I get on average more than 10k steps a day, but I don’t make money while I am asleep or if I am on a cruise or a plane, or if I hurt myself and can no longer walk.
Maybe what id do is take the steps, run enough in a couple months to have a sizeable seed investment and then put it in the market and then just live. Never look at or care about additional my walking money and just live my life like I want.
That’s the correct answer. Get in shape, invest that money, then live as you want. Breathing forces a passive income that you can’t take as much advantage of.
What will you do when you get old?
Live off investments, the same exact thing I’d do within a year or two of getting the step superpower. You can become a multimillionaire easily with steps within a year, save up enough and you can live extremely comfortably forever, with far more money than just breathing can get you mathematically.
It really is simple. You can get far more money far faster with steps, so do that, build up the nest egg, then you’ve won the game of life. If you do breathing, you can’t get nearly as much money.
You can then run purely to raise money for charity, strike funds, whatever you want. You stop running to earn more for yourself and it becomes volunteer work. It keeps you in shape and healthy for longer.
Haha what a deep thought experiment from a shitpost
Its really just the same financial strategy everyone is already trying to reach, just far easier, haha.
Steps. It’s less money, but will probably lead to a better quality of life overall.
It’s actually several times more money, especially if you actively pursue it.
Oh really? I guess I hadn’t thought it through. I really like jogging, so figured it would be a nice motivation. Hell maybe make working out my job
Unless you make millions a year, jogging should absolutely be your job. You can make over 5k a day like this and retire in a couple years, forever.
Alright you’ve talked me into it. Where do I sign?
Let me know when you find out!
How is this so relatable
I doubt you average less than five breaths per step considering all the time one spends not walking, so this is really a no-brainer
Personally id still choose the per step so I stay active. Although the amount of time I spend on video games would make a dent in my profits.
Standing desk with treadmill
Exercise would still increase your respiration rate. So you would be incentivized to get more steps either way.
I do, easily. But I’m a walky type
making money by sleeping? Fuck yeah
- Choose steps
- Don’t pay taxes on them
- Taxman wants money
- I run away
- Taxman chases me
- Each step I run, I owe more money
If you do the average 8,000 steps a day that’s $2,000 just by walking. IRS may be watching, but I’ll pay my taxes on that just fine.
Now the melody from The Police is haunting me again.
The monkey’s paw will break my legs. I’ll take the breaths.
Granted, you are now a rock
This is fine. No more mental burden, or at least I’m dead.
Reject modernity, become rock
Satre says how do you know being a rock is better without actually being a rock?
If there’s a money’s paw in play you better pick walking. Monkey’s pawing breathing is guaranteed bad time, if not dead time.
My breaths per minute is like 13 or less. But I get like 12000+ steps in a day. For a really long run I can get in like 50000 steps.
So I know which way the math swings for me
Dude, based on an average stride length of 5ft, 50000 steps works out to over 47 miles.
That’s some long ass running.
This was 19 miles up an down a mountain, so much much shorter stride lengths
Breaths no question. It’s passive and if you do cardio you breathe more. Taking away the steps for health argument
You still step far more during running or walking than breathing, though. Steps is still passive, and allows you to actually get in shape and front-load your money. Invest your gains and that covers the passive income aspect.
Too much trouble. If I choose breathing I never have to worry about money, get paid just for sleeping. Until I die. I don’t have to worry about investing or saving, I know for a fact that I’ll have money if I wake up.
You do the same with steps, just far faster. You can make 2.5k or so per day with steps, easily. If you get into running? Far more, maybe 5k per day. Even after taxes, you’ll be a millionaire or close to it within 1 year, which you can’t do with breaths.
Choosing breaths is like choosing 50 bucks a month forever instead of 1 mil up front. You get your money slower and you can make far more with the 1 mil just by investing, even if you wait forever. The 50 dollars a month literally can never catch up outside of insane market crashes, and even then you’re only up 50 a month.
Well it’s not, it’s $1k per day vs $2-10k. I don’t think you understand my viewpoint on this. I would never have to think about money again because it would always be there no matter what. I don’t need to invest or save. If I open my eyes, I made enough money I will have extra at the end of the day. It would stop being a concept for me. If I get hurt, if I lose my legs, when I’m old, it doesn’t matter. You had to plan and save and invest. I do nothing, I just exist and never think about money.
You can do all of that with steps even if you moderately touch grass. It’s extremely passive, and you can leverage it to get in shape and make a ton of money in the short term if you need it, and can use it to invest if you want.
Not if you get hit by a bus and paralyzed your second week out you can’t.
