I…didn’t think windows 12 was actually a thing but here we are?
Already??? Windows 11 just came out
2 years ago? That’s seems like a normal cadence for OS releases.
Huh, outside of a few outliers, I guess major Windows releases generally come quicker than I thought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_Windows_versions
Well, we had Windows 10 for over 5 years before Windows 11. 10 was supposedly the last version they were doing, so it’s a little surprising they’re back to regular major releases now.
Too many people turned off telemetry data. They couldn’t get enough of it to just upgrade under the 10 banner. They’re forcing more and more online bits and slowly not letting you turn the other stuff off.
2-3 years is actually a reasonable time for Windows releases, going by historical dates. I think we’re all used to the long gap between Windows 10 and Windows 11
For home use, maybe. It will upset corporate customers to no end with a 2-3 release cycle. The app vendors won’t keep up, keeping the workplace a mess and well behind the new release curve. Deal with this on the Windows server side of things all the time. We’re trying to drag our app vendors off Windows 2012, and they are only coming kicking and screaming. Most only support up to 2016, which we find insane.
…and we’ll be calling it windowsOS 12. It has a revolutionary taskbar which is so new that we gave it an innovative new name: Dack!
Looks like a UnixPorn user’s setup, a messier one at that.
Key features include subscription fees, only-online capacity, baked in popup ads in every folder and directory, is slower than windows 7, and also streams your webcam to anyone who pays them enough.
/hj
New Windows release already? Looks like Microsoft has realised that its old model of selling major upgrades was more profitable than the Windows 10 strategy.
KDE developers: okay so we’re gonna switch to a floating taskbar so we look less like a Windows clone
Windows developers: hey guys I have a crazy idea
Lol. Remember when W10 was to be the “final” one?
The final one with the number 10, obviously.
The “10 year OS” that was 2015. Guess profits got in the way.
Oh and 10 didn’t track you enough or put enough ads in the OS.
Well, Win10 Home and Pro EOL is late 2025, so it’s tecnically correct…
It wasn’t the profits or ads that got in the way.
It was the security that got in the way. (remember the whole TPM module thing?)
Iterating the version number was just a convenient excuse to throw more ads, and tracking in.
This is just my own take, but I feel like at least part of the reason they went back to releasing new versions is because of the recent resurgence of macOS. Not only do Macs have the excitement of Apple Silicon, but they have annual “new” OS releases; even if not much has changed, it creates excitement with their fanbase. I think Microsoft realized that it’s not very exciting to just be on Windows 10 forever. So we got Windows 11.
I think that Windows 11 is just a name and even if they hadn’t named it that we would have gotten the same features as an update in Windows 10. Windows 11 is nothing more than an update. And Windows 12 probably won’t be much different. Increasing the number version of Windows looks much better to the average user.
Makes you wonder if they’re going to just start implementing the version number on every update, sorta like Chrome does these days. Will we see another Windows 95 eventually?
Well Windows 95 was 1995 and then we had (98,) 2000 so I imagine yes, we’ll probably have Windows 95 followed by Windows (98) 3000!
They meant it was going to be the final one worth installing
Apparently the source of that wasn’t an official statement by Microsoft. It was some offhand comment in a dev conference that kind of got out of control.
It might be for me. Not sure when I’ll refresh my hardware to something with TPM but I’m not feeling any rush.
Actually XP was supposed to be the last one. Service Packs were supposed to be the future of OS updates/upgrades.
It will be interesting to know how much AI integration it gets. To me, I think Microsoft will use it as an excuse for telemetry and personal data. They already explored ads on the OS, so I can imagine selling you stuff while trying to use AI tools while trying to do your work. May be a subscription to copilot.
They know that they capitalize can capitalize on AI faster than any major OS developer, but how much value will be given by the user?
Browsing your files? Why wouldn’t you need an ad pushed in your face?
Lol. It’s highly probable that adds still exists but not on the explorer. May be if you ask AI to tell you which games are the most played, it will shove an Game Pass subscription or an Xbox.
Lots of ai integrations? Yeah, no thanks
with a 64-bit chip operating at a frequency of at least 1000 megahertz continuing to meet the requirements
Wrong. The requirement for Windows 11 is “processor introduced on the market after the year 2018, with absolutely no regards on its computational power” (with a single exception to the specific CPU of the $3500 Microsoft surface studio because they continued to sell the machine with the same old processor for five years)
For example an i7-7700K is “unsupported” but the much slower and with less features atom-based Celeron j4005 is “supported”.
The hardware requirements are completely artificial and clearly decided in agreement with Intel and AMD in order to sell more new computers
The i7-7700k is my exact CPU, and I was wondering why my update screen always claimed I was out of spec for Win 11. Then I did some digging and it seems that some CPUs are more equal than others in that regard. Then I got Win 11 on my work computer and didn’t want Win 11 anymore.
Is 2018 maybe when TPM modules started going on every motherboard?
Tpm was definately included in the 7000 series intels, along with nvme support etc.
That said tpm 2 is a bit more recent and more secure. That said. It’s lazyness on the part of Microsoft to require tpm 2
No, most tpm implementation nowadays are integrated in the CPU. And Intel 6th gen onwards have tpm 2.0 in the CPU, but they’re not supported for “reasons”
laughs in ubuntu
“the highly anticipated Windows 12” riiiiight…
I’ve tried almost a dozen distros in the last couple of days. Only a couple of them see my second monitor, and none of them pick up my WiFi card. Guess what does every time? Windows 11. It’s been rock solid, fast and smooth.
Now I could put in a usb adapter for WiFi and fiddle around to get the other monitor to liven up, but I shouldn’t have to. I did this for Manjaro, and I was hopeful. On the second day it crapped out.
I didn’t want to like Windows. I used to be a die hard Mac boy, my first computer was a Mac portable. Apple polo shirt, tie and lapel pins, wallet, watch with Apple logo. I even printed my own t-shirts. ‘The box said Windows 95 or better, so I bought a Mac’ etc.
Gave up a few years ago when they became more fashion items than tools.
I’ve tinkered with Linux since Hardy Heron and Mandriva, and Chromebooks since they first came out. It always needed tinkering, nothing just worked for too long. Mac did. Mind you, Windows was crappy back then though.
Perhaps it’s because I’m on the Windows Insider programme but I really have no problem with 11. OK it has some guff that I don’t need but I’ve removed that. And sure it’s not as customisable as Linux distros, then again neither is Mac.
For me 11 just works. It syncs to my phone as soon as it’s in range. KDE Connect never did. I can run Android apps now (yes I know Chromebooks can) so Samsung Notes is my go to Notes app ever since Evernote went down the pan. OneNote is a pile of old fish parts.
I’ll keep trying distros though, I have to as my old HP laptop which dual boots MX Linux (that’s been flawless on the laptop) and Peppermint, won’t run Windows 11. I have a ‘new’ older laptop coming soon and that probably won’t run 12 ;-)
But for now the daily driver is Windows 11.
Blimus, that was longer than I expected 😮
highly anticipated Windows 12
Microsoft wants to make the taskbar appear to float above the desktop by separating it from the desktop and rounding off the corners
Who gets excited about that!?
Plus, all the (always online, storing everything we say, type and look at) AI features should be looked at critically and not with high anticipation.
Will they actually manage to put all options in a single menu this time? Because it’s hilarious that I have to use Options and the a Control Panel in Win11
