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What’s being called “worst” changes from one platform to another, and also the metric for thriving/success/failure/dying. So, more objectively, here’s what I believe that will happen:
- [Almost sure] Reddit will die in the next 1~2 years. The death will be caused by noise, brain drain, lack of moderation, and higher-up abuse. Reddit is by no means as resilient as Twitter.
- [Somewhat certain] The “Fediverse forums” will enjoy some moderate success. They won’t become as big as Reddit, but they’ll get way bigger than they are now.
- [Somewhat certain] Lemmy and Mbin will become part of a plurality. Other forum platforms for the Fediverse will appear, and compete with both internally.
- [Uncertain, but worth mentioning] Lemmy will become rather small in said plurality, as one of those in-Fediverse alternatives will have killer features that Lemmy won’t develop due to lack of interest, in a vicious cycle.
Interesting perspective, as always
What is a reddit?
The difference for me is Reddit started treating it’s loyal users like sellable assets. I loved Reddit, it was a comfort zone for a long time, but they betrayed my trust, so I left and I have no intention of returning.
I doesn’t matter if Reddit is really dead or not. They are dead to me.
Amen
Not just the amen, but the awomen and the achildren too.
A-them
Nah, not everything is a gender issue. I respect rans people, but everything has its place and this is not the place.
Hopefully you’re joking, it’s just a spoof on this line https://youtu.be/x5W2YPKH9XE?si=4NPsqHNlPGheI0GX
Nice! That’s a good reference. I’ve recently got to know some transgender people and I’m struggling to differentiate with what I read online and what’s actually real in that regard. I guess my issue here is that there’s a lot of loud folks out there who do a lot of meaningless, unnecessary complaining about gender issues and spoil the issue in the public eye. I guess I’m salty about that specificly right now. I’m also a bit drunk right now, so maybe that makes my whole point moot anyways.
I’m struggling to differentiate with what I read online and what’s actually real in that regard.
As someone who once had to navigate a very difficult work situation involving that, may I make a suggestion? Just forget the trans thing unless it’s front and center, take everything you’ve read and heard with a grain of salt, and let the people you’ve met just be themselves to you. Let them inform your ideas of who they are, themselves, directly, for better or for worse. They’re people first and foremost; in that sense the trans is secondary. Meet them in your shared humanity and you won’t go wrong.
I say that because they’re just people too, like you are, but sometimes trans people bring a whole world of hurt, betrayal, exclusion, rejection, and wounding along with them to the table that we normies cannot even begin to comprehend.
This was many years ago, back in the 90s, but I was in the bad situation I was in because the trans person saw ill-intent that did not exist – but it was because they’d had so much of that shit already they just weren’t able to see that no one had prejudice toward them in that specific situation. To simply be accepted was literally that new for them. Thus there was a whole lot of miscommunication, inadvertent offense given and taken, and far more drama than there ever needed to be all around. It got cleared up, and we all learned a lot, but it was hard for a while.
So just let them be themselves, and be as courteous as you would with any stranger. It’s the fastest way to equilibrium with anyone, but especially with people who are not used to just being allowed to be. They already know you’re uncomfortable, and that you probably don’t know how to deal with the whole thing, because that’s most of the people they meet. So if you’re just cool and normal to them, as you’d be to anyone else, you’ll be a breath of fresh air. Hope this helps.
As for the worst joining Lemmy. I was starting to feel the same way until I deleted my 3 year old .ml account and blocked the lemmygrad, lemmy.ml, and hexbear instances. Now my feed is quite pleasant and I’m enjoying the place much more all around.
What about those particular instances is so bad?
I assume those are the instances from which I occasionally catch stray misc political statements that seem to be goading me into a fight.
They get bored quickly if you talk to them like people, they target people with tempers. Works well.
Who knows though.
Yeah, they absolutely goad you into a fight then report you for the exact same shit they do/say but you’ll get banned- they won’t.
If you’re not familiar, r/ChapoTraphouse was the left wing version of r/The_Donald, complete with trolling and brigading. And like r/T_D, it got banned, then remade, then banned again, etc. Until most of their users switched to lemmygrad and hexbear, particularly the more toxic users.
Don’t care, reddit deaddit.
Gotta hop off the eshittification train somewhere.
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Say less
that reddit feel where if you referenced something most people will get it or when you say something everyone will say the same thing and fill the thread
I think that’s what people want to get away from for the most part.
I like the more serious discussions, and when there is humour it tends to feel more genuine than just a rehashed joke. Reddit definitely has more content though, and more discussion on specific communities (formula 1 being one example, here there’ll be 1-5 comments on a thread that on reddit will hit 200+).
Right now I use both, I think they both have their place, but I do prefer lemmy.
The top 3-5 comments on Reddit are always low effort jokes or puns.
I still try to be silly occasionally on lemmy even though my sarcasm is rarely noticed. I don’t care I still prefer it here.
I’m in a fair amount of niche communities here.
I genuinely never engaged with Reddit at all, so I’m not in a position to compare, but I don’t think the numbers suggest that Reddit “is dying” or even that it got significantly impacted.
Which is fine by me. If anything, the vibe here is less Reddit and more “late 90s/early 00s forums” and that’s an improvement on my book.
I agree with you and in a way both sides are right.
The folks who want the nice vibe and early web feel like it here better, and the ones who stayed on Reddit are happy us old hackers aren’t olding up the place anymore.
You also recognize users more often on here, I run into your comments all the time. hi.
That too. It’s small enough here that I’m getting to know some folks I see a lot of. I think the profile pics help with that.
Your first part about references was one of the things I disliked the most about Reddit where someone would make a pop culture reference and it would spiral into.a comment chain of just quotes with no originality, I’m glad that hasn’t caught on in Lemmy.
My second least favourite thing, US defaultism, is alive and well on Lemmy unfortunately. On Reddit you would be told it’s an American website and to deal with it, well this is the fediverse and I don’t want to deal with it. Just say where you are from or what country news are about, it’s not much to ask.
You can call it out when you see it, and we’re all better off for it when you do. One of the most recent comments I wrote was exactly that: someone trying to Americanize a comment chain about Pakistani elections. I shut that down without hesitation.
American or not, online we’re a global community, and it never hurts to remind of that reality when needed.
And also, doing so tends to fuck up the agenda of political trolls, who WANT to Americanize and divide every possible thread they can. Calling it out, you hit two birds with one stone: bonus.
American or not, online we’re a global community, and it never hurts to remind of that reality when needed.
Very refreshing indeed. Glad we have less to feel like we are all using a specific country’s website
Reddit blocked my favourite app (Apollo) and now block every IP I use (proton VPN) so I don’t use it because they’ve made it too hard to use; not because I hate them.
Don’t get me wrong, I think reddit itself is a terrible company who I feel better not supporting, but I’m not going to act like there isn’t value to the content hosted there.
Edit: I edited the edit because people were not reading the edits when I created new edits
Edit : also I miss edits
Edit: BTW I am not saying edits are good or bad.
I don’t really have a choice, Reddit became unnavigatable. But still it’s true, we’re all vegan DIY communists here, so careful where you tread… Redditor
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Eh, I go back on Reddit every few days, it’s definitely worse. Faker, more moderated than before (tons of deleted posts and banned users). People are the same assholes as usual though so that hasn’t changed much. Also these communities take time to grow, alternatively, there is nothing wrong with them being small either.
Honestly I’m quite surprised it has any moderation anymore. Didn’t they gut moderating tools and alienate most of the mods? I’d’ve expected it to be a lawless wasteland
Reddit was tolerable because of the app I used. With the apps gone, old.reddit a pain in the ass to use, and new reddit being a garbage mobile site, there’s little reason to go back. Using it’s site is such a chore, it’s no longer worth it, even if it did have great content at one time. The content was getting pretty recycled even into the mid 2010s though.
Lemmy not catching on and Reddit dying aren’t mutually exclusive, unfortunately. I personally know quite many users who left Reddit, but never made the jump over to Lemmy, because they mostly stayed on Reddit due to particular communities. With those communities getting decimated during the APIcalypse and its fallout, they had little incentive to join Lemmy.
Ultimately my personal opinion is that Lemmy is going to persist, even if it doesn’t cross certain thresholds, it is still a part of the larger Fediverse and due to its interoperability, Lemmy can benefit from the success of the Fediverse, even when not being all that successful by itself.
