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    • nac82@lemm.ee
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      10 months ago

      So, do we want the Biden administration to continue to work towards supporting Palestine, or do we want them to revert back to a hard defense of Israel and ramp up arms production?

      Lemmy users are fucking braindead when it comes to building support for unified movements in America, and it shows time and time again.

      This might be news for yall, but a nation of people does not change course overnight.

      Yall do realize you are supposed to reward positive actions to encourage more of them right? If you punish people for doing the right thing the same way you punish them for doing wrong, you are just fucking up your own message.

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        I want anyone engaged in war crimes to face consequences for their actions tbh.

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          Cool, I want a billion dollars and a cure for cancer. Lmk when the magical sky daddy starts granting wishes.

          What real path to this outcome do you see? What’s step 1?

          How do you plan on charging Putin?

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    10 months ago

    “We are not waiting on the Israelis”

    Also

    The scheme will take several weeks to put into action, however, carrying the risk of supplying too little relief, too late.

    Someone tell Biden that if he actually wants to do something he has a few aircraft carriers and frigates nearby perfectly capable of delivering food

    Or maybe Biden doesn’t want to do anything. He just wants to make it look like he does something. Wonder which it could be.

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      10 months ago

      You people are actually braidead.

      Please tell me how a frigate, nevermind a fuckjng aircraft carrier can deliver supplies without a fuckjng port to dock in?

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        Aircraft carriers actually have a lot of storage space since they have to be able to cruise around for a long time without resupplying. They have many “smaller” boats surrounding them which can easily transport food if they used their life boats.

        If there’'s a will there’s a way. People are actively dying of starvation.

        Waiting multiple weeks to build a pier for “clean delivery” is what I would use the adjective in your comment for.

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          How many tons of food can a lifeboat carry do you think? How does that food get loaded onto and unloaded off the boat? By hand?

          If there’'s a will there’s a way. People are actively dying of starvation.

          And the US has been airdropping food in. But there just isn’t enough capacity, and Biden has been criticised for not doing enough in that case too. The real solution if for Israel to allow trucks across the land border and not machine gun residents when they try to collect the aide.

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            The real solution if for Israel to allow trucks across the land border and not machine gun residents when they try to collect the aide.

            Yes but Biden is actively trying to pretend that isn’t possible and make up excuses why he needs TWO MONTHS to build a pier to drop off food. In the hopes his voting base is stupid enough to believe he isn’t actively trying to ignore the issue.

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              How is he pretending that isn’t possible?

              How is he ignoring the issue? He’s building infrastructure in order to facilitate aid delivery, because his previous action of airdropping aid into gaza doesn’t have the capacity to provide enough food to alleviate the famine, and he only has to find this solution because Israel has ignored his calls to not start a ground offensive in rafah and also ignored his calls for a ceasefire.

              So I really don’t get how you can try and spin “he’s ignoring the issue” from all that.

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                What? The issue is the truck blockade imposed by israel. That’s what’s being ignored.

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                  10 months ago

                  So what do you think Biden is actuslly capable of doing about that, that he’s currently not doing?

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    10 months ago

    Israel already blocks all ship based access to Gaza. Building a port won’t change this

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      I double dog dare Israel to try and stop a US Navy relief mission.

      It does make one wonder why they didn’t just land at Gaza’s actual seaport.

      Entirely possible you just can’t anymore.

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        They shoot their own hostages in what seems like remenants or revival of the hanibal directive. It’d be foolish to assume they wont bite the hand that feeds, especially when they get away with everything they do. Why would Israel expect consequences?

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    10 months ago

    This is so silly. This is just Biden trying to keep both sides of his own party happy…

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    10 months ago

    In some parallel world, hamas would have such a port already built, because they didn’t spend all their resources on building missiles.