Onlyfans is an oddity wrapped in an enigma. Not only is there a ton of free porn + all the porn one can torrent but there are dozens of free cam sites out there. I mean dead free! One can watch thousands of nude models nonstop.
There should be no reason to pay for onlyfans. Ever.
Buy local from small producers
There are 23 singles in your area
THATS A LOT OF TITS
(Plz read that in the voice of the nuts guy in Kung Pow)
Or make your own at home, it’s cheaper and sustainable.
I know for a fact that’s what your mom does.
Yep, mine does it as well. This post was actually a social experiment to try and get her more subscribers.
Organic pr0n?
Free range mostly
still often not fully organic
Those bolt on tiddies
“I still don’t get why people spend money”
Because you want to support specific content creators and free isn’t sustainable
Porn was around long before OF and OF isn’t why porn is still around.
So basically, you like paying for porn, is that it? Or maybe that specific girl/guy? Or couple?
Yeah, but for porn tho…
Just beat your meat to standard stuff or meet someone IRL, rather than developing some unhealthy attachment to someone on OF who’s exploiting your desperation.
I dunno, I guess if you just wanna pay for porn you like then it’s fine, but some people develop very unhealthy attachments/obsessions to supplement a real human connection.
Yeah, but for porn tho…
So what you’re saying is sex workers aren’t real workers and don’t deserve to be paid. If that becomes true and no one pays for porn, GUESS WHAT: no more porn. It has to be profitable for the people doing it. It’s not like art, the vast, vast majority aren’t doing it because they love it. They’re doing it for money.
How is porn the same as being with a real live human being 🤨? Sure, I can understand (up to a point… I wouldn’t do it) paying for sex, but for porn 🤨… I mean, even if I did really liked something about this specific girl, nah, I wouldn’t pay. She’s basically selling something that hundreds of people will buy, not just me. And even if it was just me, that’s not an IRL experience. I MIGHT pay for a real world sexual experience (very unlikely though), but for a fake one? No way!
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Porn and OF are essentially two separate things though.
Sex workers do work and they should be paid for it, because it’s just work. OF creators often exploit desperate peoples’ emotions to take their money.
People watch porn to beat their meat and satisfy a physical urge, whereas a lot of people subscribe to OF for a fake connection that only worsens and warps their view of a healthy relationship.
If you wanna pay for Brazzers then go for it, if you’re simping for an OF creator who’s happy to just take your money then that’s sad.
Nah, even if nobody paid for porn there would still be porn. In fact, there’s already enough porn already made out there that we have enough to last us for centuries. But even disregarding what’s already out there, people would still make porn for free because they want to show off and share their videos.
Could you imagine if porn stopped being produced in the ‘70’s and all we had to jerk off to was huge muffs (huge fan of muffs by the way (it’s mostly a texture thing))and blue eyeliner up to their eyebrows?
the vast, vast majority
Not to disagree with your main point - everyone deserves to be paid - but porn scales so well that we might already have enough free amateur production for everyone. It just doesn’t get to the top of SEO-optimized searches.
we might already have enough free amateur production for everyone. I
You’ve seen significant amounts of porn produced and distributed that was made for fun and not monetized? I certainly haven’t.
And if that were true, why would people still be paying for it now?
You’ve seen significant amounts of porn produced and distributed that was made for fun and not monetized? I certainly haven’t.
I have. You just need to search a bit harder… I guess 🤷… I’ve even got them bookmarked, they release regularly.
There’s a parasocial aspect to onlyfans since you can dm the person, and they often take requests.
I am definitely not like others, I have only paid like 3 times on OF and they were like $5 each. Sometimes you just really want to see what that person looks like. 99% of the time I don’t care and free is cool. Never got exploited, or had an unhealthy attachment.
Porn creators also need money to live, no?
I think you’re really overthinking it. I’d say the vast majority of people paying simply came across something they wanted to see, and paying for it is faster and easier (and safer) than trying to search it out for free.
It’s no different than subscribing to twitch/YouTube creators. The content is just different. There are plenty of people with unhealthy obsessions that aren’t related to porn.
You’re right, it’s the same as the lonely people being exploited by Twitch streamers or YT creators.
There’s a point it goes from “supporting a creator” to “throwing money at someone so they acknowledge your existence and you feel validated”.
Honestly part of the reason I stopped watching twitch, it’s just sad at a certain point as these people think they’re actually friends with the creator, rather than just enjoying the stream for what it is.
The whole donation/sub part of twitch culture is disgusting imo.
A better example would have been patreon. I’ve never given money to an online content producer of any kind (except my monthly donation to Wikipedia), but if there’s one thing the internet is good at, it’s crowdfunding. Gofundme, patreon, onlyfans, twitch, kickstarter… it’s all the same.
True, but I think the key difference is that one is an exchange of services, and the other is taking advantage of peoples desperation for a connection, whether that be a romantic connection or just friendship.
Satisfying physical urges with porn or supporting a twitch streamer you like is one thing, but these fake relationships between viewers and OF or twitch creators is wrong imo.
I feel like you’re way off mark on this.
I subbed to a chick on Onlyfans because she’s my type and I jerked off to her videos.
I would wager 95% + of the audience is just that, and not the “unhealthily obsessed” type that you are so hung up on.
Cases like Grant Amato have got to be the exception. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Amato
You can get a personal performance and it can be healthy. They ain’t mutually exclusive, especially around niches where content isn’t just reposted on every site.
If I’m going invest 3 hours into a film or a series of films then I want a plot to follow
If you claim to be a porn addict but have never been tempted by or succumbed to spending money on porn, are you really an addict?
I used to suck dick for porn.
My mate, Paul, is addicted to cigarettes but he never has his own fuckin smokes. You telling me, he ain’t really an addict?
Wait… What… How?
Is the the type to just smoke in a couple of puffs just to get the nicotine hits? Just give him a nicotine patch at that point.
I can’t read “My mate Paul” and not hear it in Philomena Cunk’s / Diane Morgan’s voice. Well played sir!
Good comparison 👍.
at least Paul doesn’t need porn. He’s addicted to being a cunt! ;)
Ummm… IDK, maybe I’m not… or maybe I like stuff that is so niche, people usually just throw it out there for free in hopes of finding someone to engage with them 🤔 🤷… IRL in most cases… which is what I what I would be after in the first place.
I mean, porn is nice, it’s a temporary fix and you can fill a gap with it… but it doesn’t replace the real thing.
My 2 cents.
Don’t know what to tell you man, frankly the amount of effort you have to put up during sex not to mention the amount of nagging you have to put up with in order to get sex kinda is off-putting to me or more specifically it’s at 50/50 but I do sometimes prefer to masturbate rather then have sex due to what I mentioned above.
I do agree. I masturbate mostly the past few years as well (pushing late 30’s, I have to be honest).
But… when it comes to real world encounters, hell, I’m all in. Bullshitters everywhere when it comes to my kink, but when that true one comes along… it’s worth the wait 🤤.
Not sure but tell you what, I watch porn for at least 2 hours a day every day and I never once paid for it. Now I said 2 hours cause I don’t include hentai or hentai games in that. To be fair even thought I pirate most hentai games I did buy the ones that I really enjoyed and are on Steam. So no for porn I never payed I did however payed for hentai. And I most certainly have an addiction or at least a disorder considering the amount of time I waste on this!
What are your recommendations for games?
Because they have more money than you. Disposable income is going to be disposed of, one way or another.
Even if I was the richest person alive, I still wouldn’t pay for porn. Sex? Maybe. Porn, no way.
Not quite OnlyFans, but when you have specific interests, you gotta find specific folks with skills tailored towards those interests.
Source: Close buddy of mine is a furry fetish artist. Not suspiciously wealthy, but he’s full time drawing raptor asses.
This. Also in real life, people with specific talents know they’re rare and charge accordingly. Pornhub is full of average stuff and if that does it for you great (though I’d argue anyone considering themselves a ‘porn addict’ is unlikely to be satisfied with basic porn)
But… Raptors didn’t have fur 🧐
Don’t let your wet dreams be dreams…
FYI: there’s a whole swath of furry (literally) dragons and scalies.
That’s what you’re hung up on? There’s a whole subgenre of sharks with tits.
and you know this how? 🤨
Listen mate, when a furry comes up to ya and says “Here’s three hundred bucks, draw me a picture of a cybernetic shark gal with huuuuumongous life-ruining tits,” you say “How big ya want 'em?”
…So you’re offering?
Oh nah, I legitimately have the handwriting skills of a five year old xD
Rule 34
And snakes with legs
And tits.
Furry is just the kinda general term for the whole fandom. If you wanna refer to a furry or a scalie character without worrying about calling a scaly fella furry, anthro works plenty fine.
Also they most likely had feathers, which is rad as shit in my books.
I don’t get the whole furry thing but sometimes I wish I had artistic talents because I would have no qualms getting paid to draw whatever degenerative crap people are into these days. Seems like a solid side hustle.
I suspect most of that market’s about to die
The real money now is in selling credits to a private AI art generator with all the nasty word restrictions disabled.
Luckily I’ve got a good enough card for Stable Diffusion and I spent a couple weeks scouring civitai for the perfect blend of models and improving my prompt game and when I had the exact “content” I wanted, it never did anything for me. Like at all…
Just like with video games, the people paying for it are what keeps the supply going for the freeloaders. They should grateful to them!
Ummm… no.
Freeloaders are only there because there is a product in the first place. If there was no product, freeloading off it wouldn’t exist.
Ever heard of prohibiton?
Yeah, so? Don’t really get the parallel?
Prohibited was the ban of alcohol (yes, technical it was the limitation of alcohol, but the laws put in place made it impossible to legally get alcohol), and so a mass black market for alcohol was created. Moonshine, home made whiskey, the term bootlegger was made for someone who smuggled alcohol. The freeloaders were now the only people who had alcohol, and the government really didn’t like that, so they literally began poisoning alcohol to get people to stop drinking. Eventually, the government had to give up because they were loosing money just by banning alcohol. The freeloaders ensure that if something like alcohol is banned by the government, it will not stop people from enjoying it.
Oh, so you were on my side 😁.
Didn’t know about the poisoning part, that is a nice bit of chilling info about how far governments will go to enforce something they think it’s right… no different than terrorists I guess…
of the two camps, I would say the only fans aficionados are probably SLIGHTLY less depraved and slightly healthier than pornhub addicts because at least the OF subscribers are lusting after real women with whom there might be a SLIGHTLY higher chance of ever connecting with
lusting after real women with whom there might be a SLIGHTLY higher chance of ever connecting with
Doesn’t sound less depraved to me
I think people don’t pay for porn, people pay to be able to interact with the girl.
Especially with those with 1000s of subscribers - how are people fooling themselves into thinking that they don’t have someone answering their messages for them?
Some of the most popular ones have whole crews for filming - why should social media be something they do on their own?
I kind of get it for the ones with few subscribers though
Our brains are highly effective at tricking us. And if a person is desperate for attention, they will fall into this trap. You’re thinking rationally, but there’s nothing rational about that in the right (or should I say wrong?) state of mind.
In that case, OF and sites like that do more damage than good. Instead of having a healthy real world relationship with someone, you get stuck in a dream world.
True. Real world relationships however are hard to obtain and hard to maintain. So many people, especially those that are deemed “not normal”, due to looks or behavior, are giving up on that and instead give in to these easy surrogates. It is sad, but not like society presents any solutions.
Yeah, to be honest, that is true…
This is insanely sad.
i dont get it either like why would you pay for porn when there are free porn?
I’m of the same sentiment but I don’t judge people that pay for porn, after all without them paying for it there would be no money in the porn industry so as a consequence no porn either. Simply put I will never pay for porn but I’m glad that others do so I can feed my addiction.
good point.
same reason you donate for a shoutout on twitch id assume
Like what… ego boost 🤨… some chick mentions your name in her stream and you get a hardon from it 🤨?
dunno tbh I guess - or maybe like a private session like how strip clubs do
Yeah, but that’s still IRL… I would maybe pay for something like that IRL, but online… no, I don’t see the point. It’s not a real experience, it’s like saying you can parrent your kids via Viber when you’re abroad… no, you can’t. You need to be physically there if you wanna be a real parrent.
oh yea 100% agreed
You’re like me and poor but I’ve been around people with jobs and stuff who can afford to throw away money on things and they seem to really enjoy the transaction element to things.
Like being able to use money to get what they want feels good to them because it kinda justifies their life being dedicated to making money. It’s different for different people but you see the ones who love to buy something others can’t have like five min in private video chat is exclusive so makes them feel special, or you get the ones who feel special by funding something for the group like reaching a target or funding a creator they like.
I’m not poor and still think giving money for shout-outs is stupid. I don’t know who you talk to that you got that line of thinking.
How not poor are you? I’m not convinced.
The only porn I would pay for is something bespoke that I had to specifically request be made.
I know I might be a bit of a porn snob but since I have the means I will attempt to pay for my porn. It’s hard to know if any random porn video was made ethically and that the actors/actresses are being paid appropriately. That’s why I like onlyfans. This way I’m, mostly, assured the money is is going directly to the preformer(s).
Not to say onlyfans can’t be predatory. As long as I am being descerning in my purchases I am comfortable with it. If an onlyfans model started wildly blurring the line of service provider and customer, I would recommend not paying for services any more. This can be difficult too because I know some of the services invovle intense interpersonal sexual fantasy. I would just say be careful. Especially if you find yourself struggling financially.
Edit:
This isn’t to say all free porn is ethically/morally wrong. I do still browse pornhub etc. I just don’t have the where withal to investigate every single content creator. You never know, the actor/actresses could seem as though they are producing the content at their own volition but there could be a business partner that is taking advantage.
All this to say, we should be more careful when consuming porn.
You are correct… but I’ve seen all sort of free content from producers (couples or just a single girl) that just like to share that stuff for free. Why? It’s a kink they have… and I have to mention that that amateur content is THE BEST porn I’ve ever seen! No bullshit, just people enjoying in the moment! Love it!
Basically, if I do watch porn, I only watch amateur content, mosly free, but some might also be promotional videos.
well said
sometimes there are cute little upsides to paying for porn. for example, at least one person i followed would let you “purchase” poloroids they took of themselves (usually more artsy shots) which would then be sent via mail to you. she wrote little notes on the back, cool poetry, etc.
personally, lewd art from a lewd artist is way more alluring/interesting to me and adds a lot to the “experience.”
I thought about paying for it. I checked out my favorite site, and it costs more than my monthly phone bill, that’s just absurd. And greedy.
I’ve found the quality goes up with paid porn, ethical porn is easier to get, and is also less objectifying.
For example, there’s a bit on the Upper Floor between Stefanos (the dom and main host) and Penny Barber (one of the subs in that session). Penny noticed that Stefanos was wearing french cuffs, which she really likes. The next time she was on, Stefanos was sure to wear french cuffs again. It didn’t enhance the show’s primary purpose, which is titillation. It was simply a sweet gesture.
Now, many Upper Floor scenes are available in part on PornHub and the like, but this is one interaction that’s likely cut. Even if it’s left in, you might not be able to piece the two together unless you watched the series in order, which would be hard to do on tube sites.
Kink.com in general has pre and post interviews on almost all their content, which you don’t always see on PornHub. These often give personal insights into the people and the industry that may be cut out.
AdultTime and Bree Mills are also doing some interesting work putting more women into production roles behind the camera, and stressing consent.
Finally, there’s a list of sites like crashpadseries.com that are also stressing ethical porn, and they tend to deliberately keep their stuff off of tube sites.
