This popped up on my work laptop yesterday. Very annoying.
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I can hardly remember the last time any notification was not some kind of spam or self-notification.
I turn 99.95% of notifications off on any platform. The worst offenders are the apps that will show me a permanent in-app notification that I have turned off notification permissions… especially those that do so blocking the regular UI of the app to tell me this. Even some apps I’ve paid for do this. I condemn those to the deepest pits of app-hell.
Adobe … spam … Windows
That sounds about right.
“Easily”
use linux on daily basis, far better for your mental health. you can use virtual machine to work with these shitty softwares, or you can always dual-boot. make the switch!
OP mentions in the post details that this is a work laptop. Switching to Linux also isn’t as simple for most people. I’m fairly technically minded and I still took nearly a year to fully switch, and I decided a year ago that to just not have the headache of virtual machines and/or dual booting, I’m back daily driving Windows because my degree requires me to use stuff that only works on Windows.
For you it may have been a pretty quick switch because your circumstances would’ve almost certainly differed.
That’s why I think you’re being down voted. If we want to drive Linux adoption, this isn’t the way and never was.
didn’t read that it’s a work device, but beginner linux distros are easy to install, like windows. OP probably shouldn’t install another os on work device. making the switch is easy for the most people and you can use windows whenever you want besides it. linux adaptation has nothing to do with my comment. i don’t care about my downvotes, what os people use or linux user percentage, but they should be aware of their options if these things annoy them. if windows works for you, and these things don’t annoy you, you can happily use it.
making the switch is easy for the most people
That is nonsense. I am not an IT professional by any means, but I am savvy enough to make my way through an OS and I still had a hard time getting Mint to work the way I needed it to without looking up a bunch of tutorials and entering in a bunch of terminal commands, something that most people would find a huge challenge.
And that doesn’t even go into the problems I had installing it in the first place. And Mint is supposed to be the easiest one.
I like Linux, but suggesting it’s so easy anyone can use it is ridiculous. My 82-year-old mother would not be able to figure it out very easily, nor would my 13-year-old daughter. Could they figure it out? Potentially. But easy? Definitely not.
I don’t think you realize that the average computer user doesn’t know much beyond how to go to their favorite websites, write email, play a few games, etc. An OS with a learning curve is not something they would find easy.
i guess you’re right about the “average” user. i forgot the nanny.
integrating every aspect of the customization to os itself is tricky but i think distros in general already have pretty good customization settings natively. you can do themes, icons etc.
you should explain the word “customization” a bit more.
Customization = getting it to do what you want, which can be a pain in the ass even for basic functions. Here’s an example I had to deal with: hot corners in both Windows and MacOS let you turn off the display so you can do things like play a YouTube video at night to listen to as you fall asleep, but also not lock the screen or put the machine to sleep entirely. I had to look up how to make it do what is a simple thing to achieve in the other two big OSes.
There really should not be a learning curve for “if you put your cursor here, the display turns off.”
yeah, i get it, but it´s the same thing if you´re switching from windows to macos or the other way around. you loose searching capability [which is cmd + space] if you switch to windows, and you need a seperate app for window tiling in macos. lots of people agree that linux is the most customizable os in the market compared to macos and windows, they even have a seperate subreddit in reddit just for “ricing” which means customizing linux, you can look them in r/unixporn. btw, you have the option to run a command while using hot corners, it´s directly in the system settings. here´s a screenshot that i took just now.
I know you can run a command in hot corners. That was the problem. I had to look up the command I needed. That’s the sort of learning curve that is a barrier to many people.
There’s a reason I have my windows configured for do not disturb/focus mode, I can’t say I’ve seen a notification come through that was actually relevant for me. The vast majority of what I’ve seen come through notifications are app spam, and I ain’t got time for that
Agreed. Seems the notification tray in Windows is just a catch-all for spam (mostly from MS themselves)
Nah, browsers are so much worse, but that’s because most users blindly accept notifications from any sketch website then call and cry to IT because they “got a virus”.
I don’t miss my days supporting end users…
First thing I do when I open Firefox or Chrome for the first time is go into settings and disable the ability for websites to request notifications permissions
We configured an allowlist of domains allowed to send notifications through our GPOs, everything else is blocked to the end-users. It reduced the amount of calls related to “virus alert” for sure.
I absolutely hate when Windows will give you a different notification for each email that comes in, then an additional one to tell you “mail has new messages.” Get out of my fucking way!
As far as I can tell outlook will call out the title of the first 3 emails in a minute, then if further emails arrive you get the general message.
Its really just a ‘we are rate limiting our notifications, check your inbox’ message.
Not an issue when you don’t use Adobe.
Not an issue if you use an OS that values your freedom of choice
edit: typo
Not an issue if you use IS that values your freedom of choice
Did you mean “use an OS”?
If not, what does IS stand for?
yeah, typo ):
Happens to us all.
Also not an issue when you disable this in windows.
Also not an issue when you disable this in windows.
How do you like having to opt out of everything, repeatedly?
I wouldn’t know how that feels. Did it once and haven’t had an issue since.
I think some people here like to shit on windows just to shit on windows and haven’t actually used win11
I wouldn’t know how that feels. Did it once and haven’t had an issue since.
I’m curious about what you think about what @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world has said about that.
PEBKAC
PEBKAC
Sticking your head in that sand, I’m sure it’ll work out for you, eventually.
Not sure what point you are trying to make here.
I’m not having any computer problems.
If there is an option to turn it off, I haven’t found it. It certainly isn’t obvious.
Apparently that makes me a complete idiot according to the person you’re talking to.
I apologize for being too stupid to know every way to configure Windows 10, an OS I rarely use.
As far as I know, it doesn’t exist. But I’m more than willing to be proven wrong and have someone tell us exactly how it’s done.
Took 2 seconds to Google this. Don’t quite remember if this is the setting I flipped ages ago to disable it on both my home and work PCs but I don’t get this spam and did something that was essentially this simple to do to get it that way.
I’ve used Windows 11 a lot
I’ve made all the changes
Ultimately, switching to Linux is what it took to get rid of the garbage, and didn’t have to disable anything on the new system.
Can we not defend this bullshit, please? Or dismiss it as not that bad? It’s bad. Really bad. Stop pretending it’s okay because you can go through a dozen settings, half a dozen registry hacks, and a handful of third party programs to make the system work almost as well as it did a decade ago.
Maybe I’ll get a better response to my question here, since you seem to view windows 11 positively and have a positive vote score, so others who are seeing these comments might feel the same.
Are there any reasons other than the sunsetting of win 10 or the relative newness of 11 to want to use Windows 11?
The only thing that stood out in the other thread where I asked this was support for multiple virtual desktops.
I mean might as well use the latest version. HDR improvements and the nicer UI are things I like about 11 over 10.
Unfortunately, I don’t have a good answer for you.
I built a new Pc last year and decided to put win11 on it to judge the OS for myself. In all reality, it doesn’t feel much different than win10. Boot up is fast, startup is fast, everything just works.
Sorry I can’t provide more info.
I fucking love windows 11. Especially compared to 10
I fucking do not love windows 10.
Time to take away the notification permission of reader.
Or take away Adobe and use an alternative.
Not everyone has that option. I can only used approved software. Took 3 months to get WSL and Hyper-V approved for my desktop
You got Hyper-V approved on a work desktop? Man I wish I had that much luck.
Or put away Windows use an alternative.
Sumatra PDF for the win(dows).
Yep! But sadly I still have to use Adobe when I need to sign documents…
Not sure but I think you can do that with Okular.
I straight up tell companies to mail the form to me now.
All my banking is on paper, insurance, etc…its ALL paper copies. I’m not filtering through 4000 spam emails from companies to find my shit, then deal with subscriptions and other crap just to send things back.
Send me paper, and I will mail it back. Countless companies just can’t process things anymore, it’s hilarious
get sumatrapdf.
havent been on windows in a while, but im assuming its still the great lightweight viewer it used to be.
It is. I have trouble making it the default reader. Stuff still opens in Edge. Not sure what the deal is.
Had that issue too, search in Start for “Default Apps”, then scroll to the bottom and click “Choose default application by file type”. Then scroll to
.pdfand choose Sumatra. The settings window may crash for some reason, but for me the file association did seem to stick after that.I’ll give it a shot and report back. I remember doing it through “Open with … Always” but maybe it’s different.
I haven’t had a crash happen on that screen but it takes its fucking time loading a non-paginated list of thousands of elements. And there’s no search bar IIRC. MS made this process as painful as possible and I’m convinced that that’s exactly the way they want it.
the deal is probably windows lol
they do push very hard for us to use it
Edge is the superior app! (To adobe)
I think I’d agree with that lol
Microsoft finally did it!
This company is insufferable.
SumatraPDF
Windows is like paying to rent a whole house only to move in and find lodgers already living in all of the rooms.
Not only that, but they sure made it sound like you were buying the house
Adobe is a cancer the second it is installed. Avoid this shitty company if possible, there’s loads of fantastic and better alternatives to their products these days.
Have a recommendation for replacing Lightroom? Having a hard time finding an good alternative photo catalog mgmt solution.
Not really my kind of thing, so I don’t. While adobe is a pile of shit, they do admittedly have some good software under all the extra shit piled on top and their suite is a lot larger than I remember these days!
Darktable (or the fork Ansel) or Rawtherapee and Digikam should get you where you need to be.
Replying in the hope you get a solid answer to this. I need a good photo workflow tool and would like it to be FOSS.
Darktable!
Thank you! I’ll check it out.
It’s a work laptop. My personal stuff is running FOSS.
Is there an actual decent alternative that does digital signatures with CACs that doesn’t also require a costly subscription?
https://kbpdfstudio.qoppa.com/signing-pdfs-with-cac-under-linux/
Does any of that work?
But also, we need an illegalist project to steal adobe’ssource code and release it to the world for free.
Fuck remote hackers, we need infiltrators.
I want someone to release the source code to ChatGPT, Sora, and everything else.
Thing is with those models, it’s not just the source code you’d need to do what they do. You’d also either need the model weights or to train them on a massive amount of data.
Oh, I forgot! RELEASE THE DATASETS!!!
Know anybody with a good tech résumé and better politics?
Don’t, um, tell me. But that’s the starting point. I’d say that or forgery, but those are most of the same skills you’d use to actually get the thing, so…
The war of the dark patterns is waging on…
My daughter needs Windows on her notebook for school. The OneDrive popups that you can never turn off, only silence for a month, on Windows 10 are enough to piss me off on her behalf.
She “needs” it on her personal laptop? For what?
For her online school which requires it.
Hence her needing it.
I suppose you think she her education should consist of reading online Linux manuals?
For what.
For the software they require her to use. Why are you giving me the fourth degree over this? Do you really not believe some people have to use Windows because of the requirement of what they need the computer for in the first place?
Every time I use windows, I run this debloater script which remove all unneccessary programs that you choose to delete. It even has options to remove the PDF defaulting to edge (mentioned because it kind of related to this post).
Every time I use windows, I run this debloater script
Ironic having to use an open source script to make a closed source OS behave itself.
Irony (noun)
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3: Incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.
How is that ironic? It seems like exactly what I would expect: open source software prioritizing human wellbeing instead of corporate profits.
How is that ironic?
The irony is having to use one kind of licensed tool on another diametrically opposed type of licensed tool.
Its not how the tool is used (as you described), but the licensing of the tool, versus the licensing of the tool its being used on.
That seems self-evident, considering I went out of my way to express the licensing in my original comment. But, if you have a better word for me to use than ironic, please let me know.
I guess if you think it’s ironic then you do you. I’ve been using OSS software to make proprietary OSes not suck for over 2 decades, and that’s exactly one of the things I expect it to do.
I guess if you think it’s ironic then you do you.
You honestly see no irony, license-wise, in using an open source product to repair/modify a closed source product?
At all?
I’ve been using OSS software to make proprietary OSes not suck for almost 3 decades, and that’s exactly one of the things I expect it to do.
No one is disputing that. That’s not the point being made.
But, if you have a better word for me to use than ironic, please let me know.
I don’t. People use non-proprietary tools to repair proprietary things all the time. Screwdrivers and hammers and soldering irons all are open tools that are used to build and maintain proprietary physical objects. I can’t see any irony in it because I can’t see it any other way. Imagine that GM built cars using only tools that were hidden behind a trade secret, and mechanics and end users were forced to use those same tools. Seems far fetched, doesn’t it? It does to me at any rate.
